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Please leave the lede alone

Please, we have sections such as "Praise" and "Criticism". Arilang 14:03, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

I think that we can't just say "it became a bestseller", that's a bit misleading/lacks context. I think the previous version was generally fine. John Smith's (talk) 22:34, 2 January 2011 (UTC)


I agree with you, just do not like to see too many "Criticism" comments posted all over the place. The Communist Propaganda apparatus would like to project a positive image for Mao, that is why there are a lot of 50 Cent Party around. Arilang 00:20, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the lead is the perfect and correct place to introduce criticism, as the manual of style specifically says, "The lead should establish significance, include mention of notable criticism or controversies, and be written in a way that makes readers want to know more." And Arilang, would you please stop throwing spurious accusations of being on Communist payrolls around? The criticisms of the book in this article are thoroughly scholarly, and not political. Quigley (talk) 00:37, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree that a summary of praise and criticism belongs in the lede. On the other hand, I'm not sure if it's necessary to put a particular spotlight on one review, with several quotes from that review, as is done here; is there something that makes this one review more notable than all the rest? I don't know if there is, but without that knowledge this looks to me like undue weight. rʨanaɢ (talk) 01:48, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Well, there are so many reviewers around, some say the book is good, some say the book is bad, Mobo Gao is only one of the reviewers, so what? Arilang 02:21, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Professor Mobo Gao, Director, Confucius Institute and Professor of Chinese Studies, as far as I know, all those Confucius Institutes around the world are under the control of HanBan, http://english.hanban.org/node_7719.htm, "Hanban/Confucius Institute Headquarters, as a public institution affiliated with the Chinese Ministry of Education," that means Confucius Institutions around the world are funded and controlled by the Chinese Government, that means Professor Mobo Gao is funded by the Chinese Government, of course he has to promote the PRC (and Mao) official image. No wonder. He is the biggest 50 Cent Party of them all. Arilang 02:35, 3 January 2011 (UTC)


Confucius Institute

Confucius Institutes (simplified Chinese: 孔子学院; traditional Chinese: 孔子學院; pinyin: kǒngzǐ xuéyuàn) are non-profit public institutions that aim to promote Chinese language and cultureand support local Chinese teaching internationally. The headquarters is in Beijing and is under the Office of Chinese Language Council International (colloquially, Hanban (汉办)). Many scholars characterize the CI program as an exercise insoft power where China "sees the promotion of its culture and its chief language, standard Mandarin, as a means of expanding its economic, cultural, and diplomatic reach."

OK, isn't it very clear, Professor Mobo Gao is an employee of the Chinese Government, HanBan, of course he has to say nasty thing about this book, simply because this book say nasty things about Mao, The Beloved Leader of the Chinese Revolution. I would put Mobo Gao in the same turf with Han Suyin and Edgar Snow. Arilang 02:45, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

HanBan employee Mobo Gao

User Quigley, Mobo Gao is officially an employee of HanBan, which is a propaganda apparatus of the Chinese Government, I don't think his opinion deserved a place on the lead section. Arilang 03:38, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

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