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Barnstar development guidelines

In response to some of the comments about archiving discussions, and how awards are vetted, last week I tweaked the Guidelines. No one noticed. I also archived the discussion that was used to create them. I just wanted to give you a heads up. evrik 18:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Awards Page

I think that the variety of pages Barnstars and Other Related Awards and Personal User Awards for the awards are confusing. I have been trying to streamline them by creating the Misplaced Pages:Awards page. Let me know what you think. evrik 18:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Advice Requested

Hi. I recently reverted an edit and left notes on the users talk page . The user responded with this. My instinct is to remain silent. However, I seek outside opinions on this matter. --BostonMA 19:38, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Psst

Check out this page. Pass it along. Nudge nudge. -- evrik 20:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

DYK: Tomitaro Makino

Thanks for adding my DYK. However, it is grammatically incorrect:

...that botanist Tomitaro Makino, despite dropping out of grammar school, named over 2500 plants and be called "Father of Japanese Botany"?

I suggest changing "be called" to "has been called" or "is known as". Thanks, Dforest 04:25, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

DYK Medal

Okay, I've closed the discussion. I couldn't find the templates either, so I just copied the code from earlier archives. I think they're based on the AFD Closure templates. Anyway, I've also uploaded the file as 100px version to commons under image:DYK medal.png (AzaToth's version was at 'DYN Medal'), but I'm not sure what the blurb should be, so perhaps you could write that. Regards, smurrayinchester 14:26, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Do you mean that you wanted the image uploaded to Misplaced Pages, or placed in the Other awards section? Uploading the image to Commons automatically uploads it to en. Misplaced Pages anyway, just like any other image. smurrayinchester 16:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh sorry, now I get what you mean. I've added a section to the Misplaced Pages version only about its usage and introduction. In order to edit that sort data, use the 'edit this page' tag rather the boxes (which affects its Commons version too). Every award is listed on Commons (in fact, there's some very nice unused ones there as well, such as Image:StarfishBarnstar.png). They're all under Commons:Barnstar. I've listed the DYK medal there now with the featured article medal, so there should be no risk of deletion. smurrayinchester 16:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

The templates are {{consensus top}} and {{consensus bottom}} (I know, strange name, but... :) edit: changed it to debate instead of consensus, so it's not {{debate top}} and {{debate bottom}} _→AzaToth 17:00, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Infrastructural Concerns in Bangalore

Hi GB - can you please have a look at this article? There is an anon IP using disruptive language and actions, but there may also be a problem with the article's possible "uencyclopedic" nature. Perhaps this is an inappropriate fork. Rama's Arrow 14:29, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

☆

Thanks for the star :) As the nom page is quite a backlog, I don't nominate shorter articles by myself - such as Ivan Martos or Mstislav Dobuzhinsky - these days. As best I understand, a side purpose of the Main Page redesign was to increase the length of WP:DYK section. As it didn't happen, some changes in the updation process would be welcome. What do you mean by "higher no. of admins can update the same"? --Ghirla 10:13, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Nom

Hi Gurubrahma! I've replied to your email. Many thanks for the tips on images, which I've implemented. I'm going to see friends this weekend, back on Tuesday PM (UTC) (nice long weekend - you can see that I'm having a really good week!). But I can fit in with any schedule you may have. Cheers! :o) ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 22:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

DYK medal

Thanks! I really enjoy the DYK work. BTW, if you like my TALK box on the user page, I can mae one for you. Created by another user, I have found that it sure helps keep messages organized. Mark Vaoverland 02:17, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

James Burnett, Lord Monboddo

hello, i have a question regarding DYK eligibility of this article. i just finished some extensive expansion of this article on James Burnett, Lord Monboddo. Some of the research has been buried for two centuries in little cited works, but i have well referenced the particulars. It turns out that this fellow is quite important and in modern times largely unregcognized as an early thinker on evolutionary theory. i think this is worthy of DYK candidacy. The DYK line would go something like:

...that 70 years prior to Charles Darwin's work, James Burnett, Lord Monboddo, also a British scholar, published works framing the basis of evolution

let me know your thoughts, thank you. sincerely Anlace 04:01, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

p.s. Monboddo also did some fascinating work on the evolution of linguistics and has some remarkable theories on the association of Sanskrit and western language you may be interested in.Anlace 04:11, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Gurubrahma, Thanks for the medal. :) I sure enjoy it. I am an editor first, admin second and bureaucrat third. Though, I've scaled down my edits in the last six months, but I still prefer to create new articles. That's what I started out with when I first registered. :) =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:48, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Akshapada Gotama

I didn't really follow your edit summary comment. The problem is that the article seemed to be an uncomfortable mixture of fact and myth (from the dates to the section that I commented out). Gotama is an important figure, and needs a better article (I hope to expand it in the near future), and I think that excluding claims about what unspecified people believe, especially when those claims are either vague or unlikely, is a start. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

I think, though, that unless actual sources are given for the various beliefs that you mention, the article should't mention them (in line with Misplaced Pages guidelines). I've looked in the books that I have to hand, and haven't found any references to such confusions. I suspect that the mistake over the date, for example (in this article and in related articles), simply comes from a confusion between this person and the Buddha, and shouldn't be mentioned in the article (I haven't found a single source that puts his dates anywhere but between the second and third centuries CE). Mind you, even the scholarly sources make mistakes (Mohanty's Classical Indian Philosophy spells this philosopher's name both "Gotama" and "Gautama" at diferent points, which could be confusing.

The article should, in fact, be at Gotama, as "Akshapada" is a complimentary title.

I have just found, in fact, one source that gives him dates in the 6th century BCE: St. Elmo Nauman Jr's Dictionary of Asian Philosophies — but it's considerably older than my other sources, and not generally very reliable. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 14:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

I'd agree if they were of equal standing, but all the modern scholarly sources (Indian and Western) agree; it's only the older, less scholarly source that doesn't. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 14:34, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

What do you think of the new version of the article? I've tried to meet your concerns. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 19:06, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

INCOW

Do these nominations get replaced once there is room? I was in the process of creating the stub for the rock one, BTW, and it is now done, incase you are interested: Indian Rock Music Vastu 14:16, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou. Im not sure actually, they are both very interesting topics - I will leave you to decide, based on your own preferance ;-) Vastu 14:20, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

AfD closing - thanks

Hello! Thank you for your message regarding the closing of AfDs. I thought that I was following the correct procedure in doing so but obviously not. I will wait for five days to elapse in future before closing. My apologies, I am still learning about how to be an efficient administrator. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  17:17, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Edit war in Romila Thapar

Thought I'd report it, and also regret to say; a participant in it :( --hydkat 21:58, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Infrastructural Concerns in Bangalore

Hi - an obstructive anon is using sockpuppets to post pov notices on this article. I hope you can look into this before it gets out of hand. Thanks, Rama's Arrow 01:49, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Ramprasad Bismil

Could you please see Ramprasad Bismil? The language especially in the section execution clearly seems NPoV, I've not marked it though as NPoV. Could you please comment? Thank you.--Dwaipayanc 18:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Huh

Huh!?! I dont think I have done anything or gone near the page shown! I LOVE Misplaced Pages - One of my fave sites on the net and would NEVER think of vandalising it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.28.140.12 (talk • contribs)

bengali neuroscientists

Hi Thanks for your edit concerning copyright issues.It is true that the origional article is also written by me. So, rather than deleting whole thing, why dont you still keep the name and affiliation and post of the neuroscientists.That casuses know copyright violation..it just a name and post.The reesrach descriptions can be removed. Alsoits not wholly verbatim..there were a few new entries which were absent in the original muktadhara page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drgarga (talk • contribs)

Beware these Ides of March...

...actually, don't. Go ahead have fun and splash around this Holi. Have a colourful day.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 09:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

PR: KRN

Misplaced Pages:Peer review/K. R. Narayanan: will you take a look? thanks a lot! -Pournami

Khalistan

sir i think you should take a look of this article, in my opinion this article have not been written with NPOV, thank you 220.227.152.109 12:36, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

URGENT help

Hi! It's spooky ! My talk page has VANISHED!! no deletion log, nothing.Simply vanished.Is this some sort of a bug or what? i am totally confused. Please help.--Dwaipayanc 14:20, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:DYK

Apologies for the mistakes - I've updated DYK several times in the past before without any trouble, and this time I noticed that it hadn't been updated since before the weekend, and no one was getting to it. As such, I decided to it, but was tired because it was late in the night for my time. Never a good combination; I didn't even notice the repeated "the"... Thanks for fixing everything up, though! Flcelloguy (A note?) 14:41, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

P.S. By the way, I noticed that you mentioned there were changes coming to the {{C-uploaded}}. Could you point me to the right place describing this? Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 16:27, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! Flcelloguy (A note?) 19:14, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

OK, shoot

I assume you've got some tips for DYK, I figured I'd take a shoot at it, but there's proabbly something I've missed --Obli (Talk) 17:43, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh, Sorry about the war tuba, I chose it because it was the newest one that didn't relate too much to the other ones or hadn't been opposed by other users, I'll take it into consideration if I'm going to update DYK again. I'll just run off and create a new article to nominate for DYK to make up for it :) --Obli (Talk) 17:58, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

About Romila Thapar... HELP!

If you are not too busy, can you plz check out the talk page, and the history section for the article. And then tell me what to do? I simply don't want to let these guys get away with this. Btw, who is User:The Patroller? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hydkat (talk • contribs)

Deeptrivia

Hi GB - see DT's message on my talkpage. He's ready for an RFA nomination within 10-15 days, or March 24. I also suggested to him on his talkpage that we could/should move this week itself. Rama's Arrow 03:38, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Rosenwald oops

I made a small change to this blurb for accuracy. It could have been misleading the way I had submitted it. I believe that it still fits the space in DYK article as far as I can tell. Sorry 'bout that. Mark Vaoverland 08:44, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi

HAPPY HOLI TO YOU!

(hope you don't mind the jazzyness stuff, I didn't put the picture in your page thinking you might mind :)

--hydkat 09:14, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Doubts

Holi greetings, and please clear the doubts as noted here: After so many days. Thanks. --Bhadani 10:15, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

DYK opinions

I am curious about your criteria for "interesting" and "length" in DYK items? I notice that you condemn a number of items with your humble opinion. If you are one of the decision makers about which items get posted isn't that being a bit NonPOV and is that appropriate? I am absolutely fascinated by Arthur Ransome and his books, but, at least at first glance would find articles about obscure (to me) Indian people rather uninteresting. However, perhaps if you posted one on DYK I might click through and find out something interesting and informative. I believe NPOV should apply to DYK selections not some administrators opinion however humble. Dabbler 11:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I reject your unjustifiable accusation of trolling in mentioning India. I brought in India because for you it is obviously a major interest if your list of contributions on your User page are to be believed. I have never heard of many of the people that you have written about and no doubt that is my loss. Ransome is a major interest of mine and your condemnation of an article as "uninteresting " is your POV but I didn't accuse you of being a troll for saying that I just thought that to use your only opinion as a rationale was not NPOV. Dabbler 13:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I am amazed and never dreamed that you thought I was accusing you of partiality towards Indian articles for DYK, that was never in my thoughts. My only intention was to point out that what may be interesting to you would not necessarily be interesting to me (at least at first glance) and your statement about my article came across as demeaning to me and my interests. I, too don't want to get into shouting matches and want Misplaced Pages to be a pleasant place but I felt upset and annoyed by your seemingly cavalier dismissal of me and my interests. Dabbler 14:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Back home and online

Hi Gurubrahma! I'm just back home, and online for the next two hours or so, so I'm all ready if you are (and if you are still online). I had a great time seeing friends in Liverpool and even managed to fit in some 'pedia editing! Heh! ;o) ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 20:05, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Just noticed that I had not thanked you enough for the admin-related links you had provided here. I will go through all of them. I went through your RFA. You totally deserved the cool-as-cucumber award in that instance. I am learning a lot from you. Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 21:57, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

A belated thank you

Nice to get a DYK medal from you. Just squeezed enough time to thank you on this as I'm a bit busy! --Idleguy 05:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Thx for advice

I'll be more careful from now on

Patrolling the ocean called Misplaced Pages|Tell me about vandals, violations and more... 05:57, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Suggesting New Page

Hi there, I have created a new page called Doe Lang today. I want to suggest this page in recent articles, so that this page links come on the Main Page. How to do it ? Please help me. Reply ASAP, since they consider only those articles which are created 24 hrs earlier. Awaiting your reply.

Ashu|(talk) 09:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

P.S. - And BTW, Happy Holi !!!

Hey, thanks for the reply and the links. But I have already linked that page in the template talk. Now what should be done. Should I remove it back ? I will add more information to that article and try to increase its length as soon as possible. Also, see the wording and format of the suggestion, if it is to remain. Also, if possible, just keep on checking the article so that format etc. are correct. Thanks.

Ashu|(talk) 10:14, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Quiz etc

Lol re. DSI ! I need a little more time before I taking over. Still have no connection at home, so I am doing the actual writing of articles at home but adding them from work. (Btw, I'll expand Raju soon. Promise) Tintin (talk) 13:31, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

YOu are doing so many things ... nice ... --Bhadani 13:34, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi there

Hi, Thanks for your intervention on that page. About the image... I kind of guessed afterwards this will be contested. Even if its gonna be deleted, at least it lasted till holi was over :) For which I'm very greatfull. rgds, --hydkat 14:25, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Templates

Hi Gurubrahma,

The templates I am creating will be used in the translation of french Wiki pages devoted to the Swadesh lists of various languages : see for instance fr:Liste Swadesh de l'anglais or fr:Liste Swadesh du japonais. There are 207 (Swadesh xxx) templates, and some (Swadesh List ...) templates to create before translating the main pages. Please note that Swadesh Lists are not lexicons, but lexicostatistics tools. Croquant 15:36, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Nom accepted!

Hi Gurubrahma! I've accepted your kind nomination. Not listed it on the main page yet as I'm hoping to catch you before you go offline. I'll list it next. Thanks for such a well-written and researched nomination - very kind things were said and I'm grateful! Fingers crossed for me! Thanks again. ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 16:32, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you again! PS: loved the Redvers/served/versed poetry! Very clever :o) ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 16:44, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: heads-up

With nominations like that, I'm not unique anymore. *laugh* Job well done! I would love to see all nominations receive this much attention and effort. I took the liberty of making a cleanup edit on your standards page. I hope you don't mind. Also, hoping to clarify if needed; I wasn't rejecting your help; I was just hoping you'd create your own standards and evolve them over time as I've evolved mine. You might come up with something better. At your first go, you're already on par with my nominations so it looks like that pathway is bearing fruit! :) --Durin 17:14, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I second Durin's wish that all nominations recieve a little more love and care... thus I'm promoting my version. I saw your note on the talk page, but wondered if you had seen that there does exist a willing victim. - brenneman 00:32, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

nonsense

woa woa woa, who said this was nonsence???.. this is real my name is Matt McKenzie, and i appear on P.I.N, im not that childish that i would stoop that low to pretend to be someone, so that that pethetic remark back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.15.16.184 (talk • contribs)

Could you please

Hi! Sorry to interrupt you! Could you please see this, this and this and comment? Thanks.--Dwaipayanc 08:36, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Thank you for adding Wissenschaft des Judentums to Did You Know. Would you be so kind as to award me the little tag on my talk page? Thank you. Joaquin Murietta 15:04, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Fairuse rationale

Is my fairuse image tagging understanding correct? Please check this discussion and advise. Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 18:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi Gurubrahma, long time! The quiz is a brilliant initiative. Beware, I might start monopolizing responses any time soon. I've replaced images on the movies page with links. I thought fair use images that are already there on wikipedia could be used on user pages, but uploading images solely for user pages under "fair use" is not right. But I guess I must be wrong. Thanks for supporting my nomination. I don't know how it will go, but I'm looking forward to it. Regards, deeptrivia (talk) 02:20, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Successful RfA

Referencing

How do I put a reference to some information which I have taken from a museum exhibit? --Soumyasch 08:07, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Deleting a page

Can you please delete the page Wick Eyre. It was created deliberately to mock Rick Eyre who is a cricket journalist and former Cricinfo editor. I have done the move already. Tintin (talk) 11:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

• The person is real and was fairly well known during his time in Cricinfo. He was the editor of 'Cricinfo 365' - a cricket news daily - that Cricinfo used to run from 1998 till 2001 or so. He also has a userpage at User:Rickeyre. He has 25K google hits but his notability should be fairly borderline. So if you want to list it for AfD you can do it. Tintin (talk) 11:51, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

• Also please check CricketWatchDogs too. Looks like it was recreated after it was deleted through Prod. Tintin (talk) 11:45, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

• Your prod was removed from Filmfare Best Film of 50 Years but the contents remain much the same. Tintin (talk) 11:45, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Some other time :-) Tintin (talk) 12:06, 17 March 2006 (UTC)