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Image wrong

The image associated with this page is the wrong image. That image is off howls moving castle, not whisper of the heart. If I can find a cc image, I'll change it. In the meantime if anyone else does ... (or I forget :-)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by SmallBiscuit (talkcontribs) 23:07, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

You must be serious ... you deleted the comment explaining that this comment is wrong?

If no-one objects I'll delete this section, as it is completely pointless. The image is, of course, from WOTH !!

the image shown is exactly from _Whisper of the Heart_ Indeed, it is probably the single most famous image from Whisper of the Heart -- it is the first "Inoue fantasy scene" featuring the Baron, with Shizuku wearing her Victorian "fairy tale" costume. It is a direct shot from the movie "Whisper of the Heart" at 1:13:34 on either the DVD or BluRay. In the English version, the matching line of dialog from The Baron (actor Cary Elwes) is "That's it, we're riding the air currents..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.213.186.154 (talk) 07:26, 1 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.148.172.89 (talk)

Article issues

All right. There are some serious issues going on here in the article:

  • 1. The article needs sourcing from various reliable websites, books and reviews.
  • 2. An IP hopper from France has insisted that the edits he/she has done are correct. However, I and Edward321 (talk · contribs), strongly disagree with this. These include seemingly disruption of the talk page to illustrate a point, using all-caps in the edit summaries (which are incivil), and clearly violating the neutral point of view policy by adding personal interpretations of the characters.

As I do not want to edit war here, I am taking the WP:BRD route to see if anyone can voice their opinions on the matter. Thanks, Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:18, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, what do you mean by "IP Hopper". Are you just trying to be rude? Why? Yes or no - is one allowed to be anonymous on Misplaced Pages? the answer is of course "Yes". If so, what's your actual name instead of just an internet nickname?

It's worth noting that a number of points in the description were totally incorrect and completely unsourced "urban myths" in the earlier article (such as the total nonsense about "Disney requiring a different ending" and so on) - anyone who has seen the film would realise it was just wrong.

You insist that "yourself and Edward" strongly disagree with this. But you have not changed it back to the earlier, incorrect information.

Another good example is the section titled "Sequel". You can simply look up what "Sequel" means in the dictionary. It has nothing to do with a "sequel". It is a "spin-off" or some sort of related movie.

Can you simply STATE something that I "claimed was wrong" that was not in fact wrong? That is a very very straightforward question.

Can you STATE one issue that you and Edward "strongly disagree" with?

Are you able to do that>

You seem to have a panic about the fact that I had to "SHOUT" in caps a few times to get some attention from "Edward". the problem was, Edward was simply reverting anything else anyone would do.

Do you understand that that sort of behavior is not really the right approach on Wiki?

It's worth noting that you have now completely rewritten the description, for no reason. Your writing style is choppy, not very smooth (just one oerson's opinion of course) - the previous version which built up over time was really quite good. But the point is you've simply swapped one totally acceptable description article, for another one written by yourself - with no real discernible reason or difference.

Are "yourself and Edward" desperate for "ownership" of this page? Or? Is it a common problem on wikipedia that you get fans who really "want ownership" of a particular page?

It all seems a bit strange.

Anyway, I am standing by, all ears, ready for you to STATE one specific issue that you and Edward "strongly disagree" with???

signed, Anonymous — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.148.172.89 (talk) 20:13, 2 March 2012 (UTC)


Incidentally there are quite a few plain errors (e.g., "accepts 'her' offer", sentences in wrong order, etc) in this baffling new rewrite.

Since this is clearly now a page where one or two contrubutors feel they really "own" the page, I urge you to at least proofread.

You'v also completely forgotten to mention the major subplot regarding Yuko (although you appear to be, may I say extremely keen, to mention certain extremely minor details which seem completely pointless in a plot description.)

92.148.172.89 (talk) 20:30, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

No one is trying to own the article in any way. And we need to remove extraneous details per WP:FILMPLOT. It will also help if you are more WP:CIVIL. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:39, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

incorrect use of "translation"

As already explained - at great length - the lyrics in the film (both the Japanese and ENglish versions of the film), have utterly no connection to a "TRANSLATION". In japanese the girls talk about writing new lyrics; same in the English version. In Japanese the lyrics have utterly no connection to the original John Devnver song, same in the English version.

I urge anyone very keen on editing this page to go ahead and correct this very obvious error.

92.148.172.89 (talk) 20:20, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

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