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If you are Professor James Tabor, you need to identify yourself to the Foundation

Because we have problems with impersonation, I am going to have to ask you to identify yourself to the Foundation. You can do this by sending an e-mail to info-en@wikimedia.org; be aware that the volunteer response team that handles e-mail is indeed operated entirely by volunteers, and an immediate reply may not be possible. Normally you would be blocked until you did this, but in this case I am simply asking you not to edit until you have been confirmed as actually being who you say you are. The edits you have made so far are non-contentious but more substantial edits to anything related to you should be suggested at the article's talk page as mentioned above. Dougweller (talk) 18:18, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok, your email to me should suffice as I'm an OTRS volunteer. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 18:35, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
This user has sent verification to the OTRS team. Doug, if you'd like to see the ticket, it's Ticket:2012032510007329. I've put a note on Jdtabor's userpage. Jdtabor, thanks for going to the trouble to do this! – GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:35, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Greetings Dr Tabor. As a new editor to Misplaced Pages, you might want to be aware of this article talk page post criticizing your religious beliefs as biasing your academic work. Since this post was made by an administrator, it's probably fair to ask if it is an accurate reflection of official Wiki policy. Btw, you have every right to remove information from the article about you if you know it is factually inaccurate per WP:BLP. You also don't need to have your articles previewed by an admin or another editor. That is a bunch of crap. Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Ignocrates (talk) 22:41, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome. Glad to join you and as I figure out some of the complexities of posting and interacting maybe I can be of some help, not only on my own entries, but others as well in the field of Christian Origins. I am one of the few academics who supports Misplaced Pages with my students. Most of my colleagues forbid its use, probably while using it constantly themselves. I am both a donor and a supporter as I think it is one of the greatest ideas on the planet for the dissemination of knowledge. I am a bit surprised to read a quote from a popular newspaper account in 2008 put forth as support for "Religious bias" on my part. I assume by "the book" the writer is talking about my 2006 book, The Jesus Dynasty. I can't imagine what religious convictions I am supposed to hold that would cause me to argue a very historical view of Jesus and early Christianity, much like Bart Ehrman, Dominik Crossan and all the leading historical Jesus scholars in our field who don't deal literally with "mythology" and theology as if it is history--virgin birth stories, resurrection from the dead and bodily ascent to heaven, etc. But since the comment was all over the place, based on that newspaper quotation, it is hard for me to know what your editor was thinking. My own view, as I tried to reflect in editing my own page James Tabor today, was to stick with information, add books published, solid links, and so forth, no so much to get into the vicissitudes of various theological views, passionately held by many when it comes to Jesus, so much as to lead readers to check out the sources. James D. Tabor 23:35, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

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Ariconte (talk) 06:52, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

 

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Regards, Ariconte (talk) 07:03, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

FYI on Eisenman and Tabor as authors

You may want to check this out Talk:Ebionites#Eisenman_and_Tabor. I'm not sure how I would respond to seeing my life's work being described as WP:Fringe scholarship. Ignocrates (talk) 23:53, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to respond to the above flawed allegations which state that a single book by an individual is somehow directly equivalent to one's "life work". Also, regarding your own work and topics related to you directly, I think it is probably in your own best interests to read WP:COI, which seems to me to be directly relevant. The question above seems to be about whether your book meets WP:RS standards. You might want to read that page as well. John Carter (talk) 00:27, 27 March 2012 (UTC)