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\ Yoi think Om ain no real position. After all, I threatene Acharya S. Well, I didnt. All I did was threaten to post a newsarticle I wrote on her. As predicted hwoever, in my weeks abscence from editign the Acharya S artilce, nto only has the " Slight POV" verison remained, but, its been "Improved."

I'm editign it again. Im not Hostile or a threa tot this woman, and havent relaly mentioend my aritl ein months since htye used it as leverag eot shwo what a Monster I am. I knwo you have a low opinion of me, but lets look at relaity. Her disiples want an Aritlce which reads in ehr favour, and are slwoly editign this aritlce to that end. It now has even more Anti-Christain sentement, and further exhonerates and promotes her worldview.

Meanhwile, any atmeot to schange it is met with Hostility by the disiples. In fact, the only raosmn Im on arbitration is this. You think had I left months ago this wouidl hve been resolved peacefully, but this is not true. I did leave breifly and all they did was attack Crazieeddie and AJA.

and they will say anyone is a terirble person for not givign them their way.

I reverted the aritlce tonight. DOnt block otr ban me. the revision is needed unless you think that thr world need ot be wtold that this woman is a brilliant acholar hwo has proven CHristainity a lie and has no real critism to her work, just detractors.

Its a predictable end relaly. they distort what happens ot look liek the vicitoms while continuing to attakc. Do read the Bully Article. THis is hwo they act.

ZAROVE 00:26, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Societal attitudes towards homosexuality

Charles,

The article "Societal attitudes towards homosexuality" is being used, not for the benefit of the reader, but to promote the agenda of a well-organized group of gay advocates. I can provide you with many examples if you would like. I have gone through all of the proper channels to raise a red flag about this.

The first item on the "workshop" page is a request to "remove the article" . But, so far, that option has not been added to the "proposed remedies" section of the "requests for arbitration" page .

I hope that you will seriously consider adding this remedy to "proposed remedies" section, as that is the only remedy that will actually correct the problem.

Best Regards, Lou franklin 03:59, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that your implication, that the NPOV policy necessarily fails on topics of this nature, is generally accepted here. Charles Matthews 08:30, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I am not saying that there is a problem with all "topics of this nature". But the NPOV policy is clearly failing on this particular article.

I hope that the proposed remedy will at least be presented for an up or down vote. It may be voted down, but since the other remedies are being considered I believe it would only be fair to vote on removing the article. That is really the only remedy that addresses the root problem. Lou franklin 01:44, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, no. You are just repeating your claim. Charles Matthews 12:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

My implication is not "that the NPOV policy necessarily fails on topics of this nature" as you suggested. My implication is that the NPOV policy failed on this article, because the group of editors who control the article have make sure of that. Lou franklin 16:24, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

You will be aware that you could ask for this article to be deleted by the usual community process. The ArbCom saying 'delete the article' (which is a remedy well outside the normal) would go against numerous basic ideas here: (a) the ArbCom does not involve itself in content issues, but on how editors behave; (b) deletion is a community matter; (c) only the AfD process has implications for re-creation of an article under the same name. Since the same issues can clearly be raised in other articles, anyway, it seems to be the wrong direction for all sorts of reasons. You would in fact be better advised to ask for a simple merge into homosexuality, through a request. Charles Matthews 17:26, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. I did "ask for this article to be deleted by the usual community process", but the same group of gay advocates that wrote the article just organized again to vote the motion down. Misplaced Pages doesn't seem to have a mechanism to stop extremist groups hell-bent on using Misplaced Pages to get their propaganda out, truth be damned. If a group of extremists organizes a dozen or so people they can vote in a block, make tag-team reverts to get others bounced for 3rr, etc.

The best solution is to remove the biased article. I suppose that merging the article into homosexuality would be better than nothing since that would result in one biased article rather than two. Who would I request that of? The Arbitration Committee? Lou franklin 22:03, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

To request a merge, post at Misplaced Pages:Proposed mergers. Charles Matthews 22:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again for the information, but it appears that the same group that controls the article can vote on the proposed merger. What I need is an impartial body, not the same body that created the problem in the first place. Lou franklin 23:15, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Well of course they can vote, and so can anyone else. If you don't like democracy as it applies here, you will have to be content with the ArbCom's ruling, won't you. Charles Matthews 23:54, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Not only will I be content with the ArbCom's ruling, but getting an ArbCom ruling is my objective! The group that created the article isn't going to vote to have their own article merged. Giving the people who created the problem the power to settle it is not democracy. It is letting the fox guard the chicken coop. I am advocating representative democracy. ArbCom has no vested interest in this article so they are able to serve as an impartial jury. For that reason, they are the appropriate body to vote on the article's removal.

I can see that we are at an impasse, but thank you for your time just the same. Lou franklin 02:08, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

The above exchange seems to be an obvious example of how a serious, honest person can be frustrated by a wanton group that intends to use Misplaced Pages to further its own malign purpose. Every request that the person made was turned around and used against him. Such exchanges demean Misplaced Pages.152.163.100.65 14:04, 28 March 2006 (UTC)Lestrade

Well, AnonymousPoster, you could also take it as rank incomprehension of how this place works. I am an ArbCom member, but the ArbCom does not rule on article content. Therefore arguing that it should in this case is pointless. It's special pleading. It does not in fact demean the English Misplaced Pages that article deletions have an open forum. Charles Matthews 14:10, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

That AnonymousPoster was not me, but he is right and I hope he will email me. Misplaced Pages is a bureaucracy. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, but the problem is that Misplaced Pages's mechanism for stopping organized groups from pushing propaganda doesn't work.

Misplaced Pages articles are controlled by majority. When a dozen gays or Klansmen or Moonies decide to get together to control an article, there is nothing built in the Misplaced Pages model to stop them. Changes made by outsiders are tag-team reverted by the group. If the outsider persists, he gets blocked for 3rr. This has happened to me several times. Yet the group members don't get blocked for 3rr because they have gamed the system by taking turns removing legitimate changes.

"An honest person" can't get the article deleted because the group votes en masse against it. You can't get the article merged because the group votes en masse against that too. Mediation won't help because it is based on "consensus" and consensus means trying to compromise with the organized group whose very objective is to produce a one-sided article. ArbCom won't help because they feel it is not their job because it is a "content dispute".

Misplaced Pages's mantra is "assume good faith". But in reality you cannot always assume good faith. The truth is that there are groups right now that are purposely misusing Misplaced Pages for their own PR purposes. Misplaced Pages needs a mechanism to stop these organized groups that are not working in good faith. The Misplaced Pages model as it exists today doesn't work. Lou franklin 03:24, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I have certainly noted that you do not assume good faith in other editors here. Charles Matthews 06:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

"ArbCom does not rule on article content." Is there a limit to ArbCom's indifference to content? Is any degree of crime or vileness permissible? For example, The Aristocrats can be an article that contains a contest to describe the most extremely degenerate criminal behavior. The Hashish article can enthusiastically provide information on the preparation, ingestion, and availability of drugs. How harmful must an article be in order to make ArbCom consider some degree of control?Lestrade 15:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)Lestrade

Firstly, anyone can edit the articles. Secondly, articles can be protected if there is no other way to preserve the content. The matter of where the boundaries of responsibility lie is ultimately one for the WikiMedia Foundation. It is not in any case for the ArbCom's collective judgement. But I think you are confused about the informative function of Misplaced Pages. Charles Matthews 15:16, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Sure anyone can edit articles, but when a group colludes to control an article, there is no way to stop them. You can say that it is not ArbCom's job, but the problem is that it is not anybody's job. If Misplaced Pages is to maintain any integrity at all, somebody is going to have to make it their job. Lou franklin 12:03, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, you have the wrong approach, as is evidenced by the current ArbCom case. I had a look at the hashish article, and it is deficient (as has I think been pointed out already on the talk page there). The question is whether to attribute this to a conspiracy, or whether it is better engage with other editors in a patient process of discussion. A founding assumption here is that it is always better to do the latter. Extreme statements and rhetoric are mistaken; WP always has deficiencies, and there are always enough serious people around who wish to have them fixed, piecemeal. Charles Matthews 12:58, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Dust solution

Hi, Charles, I greatly appreciate your hard work at WP, but you made a goof when you recatted this article (which I wrote). It belongs not in Category:General relativity but in the subcategory Category:Exact solutions in general relativity, along with similar articles on null dust solution, etc. ---CH 04:10, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

It had no category at all, in fact. So I added a category, knowing it to be approximate. Charles Matthews 12:28, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Organization of the Kwantung Army of Japan

Your comments and oversight of these Japan WW2 pages are appreciated. I understand your viewpoint, though with so many edits necessary to make these types of page readable, I have taken the approach that bold editting is a justified way forward. My comments say that the links may never be written not will not. I always aim not to lose any information. Please feel free to add back any redline links that you consider important for the future. I have reinstated Prince Takeda. Welsh 07:56, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, more satisfactory would be to have the option of reverting your edits to the links, without undoing your good work on the copy editing. Perhaps you could bear that in mind in the future. Charles Matthews 09:53, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Hilbert's 7th

Charles, do you happen to know whether the two parts of Hilbert's seventh problem are related in any way, or if the first part has been resolved? Cheers, AxelBoldt 20:42, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Looking at the first quickly, it seems to ask something like the linear independence over the algebraic numbers of log α, log i and 1, where α is an algebraic number, and log i is of course standing here for π (essentially). I'm sure this is now known, for the non-trivial cases of α. The reason is that both parts are specialisations of logarithmic forms of a general type, which can now be tackled in general by Baker's method. But I'm not sure when the first part was proved (if before Baker). Charles Matthews 21:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I wasn't properly awake when I wrote that ... Charles Matthews 12:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Try again. In radians, I think we are taking about some angle ε such that ε/π is algebraic, and also cos (ε) is hypothetically algebraic. By solving the quadratic equation for

exp(iε)

we then see that the question is of this type: can

log &alpha/π

be algebraic, with α algebraic, in non-trivial cases, which here should mean that α is not a root of unity?

This anyway is a question about a linear form

log α + βπ = 0

having solutions in algebraic β, outside the cases where β is a rational number. Charles Matthews 14:17, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Firth (surname)

Sorry Charles Matthews, it was my mistake to tag it with unsourced. There is no such requirement. Thanks for notifying me. I have removed the tag. Sorry again. Shyam 12:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Agapetos Arbitration

I'm sorry to spam your talk page, but this seemed serious enough to directly put on your talk page. I have evidence that AiG has actively had employees push their POV on the AiG page and possibly on related pages. I have added a new evidence section in the Agapetos arbitration to that effect, explaining the evidence. Due to the very serious nature of this accusation and its possible implications for Misplaced Pages, I decided to directly alert all of the ArbCom members. JoshuaZ 01:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

JoshuaZ retracted this in evidence because it was erroneous, but failed to mention it on your talk page. agapetos_angel 07:17, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

That's highly inaccurate. I qualified the evidence in question. The user wasn't an employee but was specifically asked by an employee. See my evidence section and Standon's for details, and Agapetos, please don't put words in my mouth. JoshuaZ JoshuaZ 13:49, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Acharya S, Arbitration, and SKull.

Two points.

1: How is Arbitration coming? No one seems invovled.

2: Can you check the tlak page on Acharya S. Skull made personal attakcs. Ive realsied Ive allwoed frustration to lad, and now just try to stick ot he facgts. However they still attacked me and made no real address to wthe problems I raised.

3: Coudl you possibely see to revisin the current article, as its harldy unbiased?

Thanks.

ZAROVE 16:16, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

You can monitor the case at WP:RFAr; it has not yet moved to voting, being at the evidence stage still. You can look at the Workshop subpage to see what it being suggested (and you can participate there). I have blocked User:Rpsugar indefinitely.

I noticed that the article was being edited again. It wasn't in such bad shape, a day or so ago, I thought. Charles Matthews 16:23, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Well right now it is. Its a promotion for dear old Dorothy, remoivgn the reaosn for her beign "An archeologist ect..." as well as any citisism or less-than-steller performances by her, and addign useless drivel.

I'll revert again tonight, and hope that it remains in th condition.

ZAROVE 18:49, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Acharya S

You have made a comment about no personal attacks on user Zarove on the Acharya page. Why then do you and others allow Zarove to make constant personal attacks against the subject herself as well as the other people editing there? This seems to be an egregious abuse of Misplaced Pages's policy. Here is a list of the numerous personal attacks Zarove has made on the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/User:%5E%5EJames%5E%5E/evidence

Do you really believe that this sort of behavior is acceptable when you can freely remove personal attacks on Zarove? There is quite a bias going on here. This matter is something that should be take up by the Misplaced Pages organization ASAP. Why isn't this person with his constant derogatory remarks being banned?

First, please be completely clear. Attacks on Acharya S personally are not against the 'personal attack' policy on Misplaced Pages, which is entirely to do with attacks on other editors. They are however evidence that can be considered in the current Arbitration case that has been brought against User:ZAROVE by User:Michael Snow. They can and will be considered there; they are detrimental to his position.

Secondly, I'm quite aware that there is constant bickering on that Talk page. The conduct of all concerned is provocative. I banned User:ZAROVE for 48 hours earlier today, on the different matter of a violation of the three-revert rule. Provoking others into remarks and then asking for a ban on the basis is hopelessly far from the community norms here. I'm going to consider what to do about it all when the current block on ZAROVE expires. I have no great patience with anyone left discussing there, and I'm certainly not going to take instructions. Charles Matthews 19:38, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Charles, is it possible to have some sort of temporary injunction against Zarove? He was at his usual edit-war/revert mode again, and made 3 reverts today. I blocked him for 48 hours for disruption and edit-warring. But his behavior pattern remains consisten, and a temporary injuction from the arbcomm seems to be the solution for now. Thanks. --Ragib 21:34, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I have tried this once on the ArbCom. I have also heard from him offline, not long ago. If he needs to be blocked now, in your judgement, go ahead. I shall try to compose another message to the ArbCom, proposing that as the case seems to be pretty much stalled in the Workshop, something ought to be done. Charles Matthews 21:39, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Kirillov character formula

Dear Charles, thankyou for your updates to the Kirillov character formula, which I had been meaning to get back to for some time. I have also been wanting to present a brief exposition for the case of the representations of nilpotent groups (with an example of the Heisenberg group) for which the method was first created, but I am not an expert in this area - hopefully you are? Best, Dmaher 00:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

The basics on the Heisenberg group's unitary irreducible representations are at Stone–von Neumann theorem. The connection is presumably made by matching up the central character with the orbits. This is not actually an area in which I have expertise. User:CSTAR has been writing on these matters. Charles Matthews 07:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Survey

I am conducting a survey on Misplaced Pages and would like to invite you to participate in the study. I've posted a message on wikien-l, but here is the link again in case you are not subscribed to that list-serv. Thanks a lot for your time! --Mermes 01:20, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Milton Waldman article

Hi there. While searching Misplaced Pages for an article on the publisher Milton Waldman, I came across a red-link to this name in one of your user subpages. Specifically the User:Charles Matthews/Forster subpage. I was wondering if this means anything, and if it does in fact refer to the Milton Waldman that I am after (a publisher who read drafts of Tolkien's book 'The Lord of the Rings')? Thanks. Carcharoth 07:31, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

It could be the same person. I compile lists from books, and then often give the books away, so I may not be able to refer to this one. The general theme there is ancient and medieval literature. Charles Matthews 07:37, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Do you know which book this "Forster" is? If you give more details, I will make a note to go and look it up. Only if you can remember/haven't given it away! Thanks. Carcharoth 08:45, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

The Icy Fire: Five Studies in European Petrarchism , Leonard W. Forster (Editor), I guess. Charles Matthews 08:53, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for the info. Carcharoth 09:26, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Lou franklin/Proposed decision

Hi Charles. There seems to be a contradiction between you supporting an indefinite article ban on Lou, but opposing a temporary ban (rather than supporting it as a second choice). Please don't think I'm badgering you to "go obey the gay cabal and vote correctly", it's just that the ArbCom interests me and if there's something I don't understand, I like to get it cleared up :-) --Sam Blanning 22:35, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

The 1.1 thing relates to all articles on homosexuality? That would cover also articles where there is no evidence of a problem. A single-article ban plus probation says 'learn to edit better', which I don't think is harsh. Charles Matthews 07:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I missed that. I agree with you, FWIW. Thanks. --Sam Blanning 09:00, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Cockburn

Hi Charles, Why did you move a section of the disambig page Cockburn to Cockburn (surname)? The short list of places which remain on Cockburn are mostly named after people who are now on Cockburn (surname), and I would have thought it made more sense to keep them together in one place for quick reference. FiggyBee 01:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

As a general principle, I think surnames that are at all common deserve a page to themselves. The most important reason is that the list by surname is going to outgrow the other things (placenames, for example): there are just so many biographical articles now created. (I spent all of yesterday on Roberts (surname), for example.) With a view to the future, also, I'd like to see surname pages in a standardised format. Therefore I think we should be heading towards a separation of surnames from 'miscellaneous disambiguation'. Charles Matthews 06:42, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough. I'll tidy up the old page to make it clearer where is named after whom. FiggyBee 14:40, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Bit of a reversion emergency

Hey Charles. Would you mind taking a look at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:Northmeister? Northmeister has taken control of the page, and is continuously reverting while asking for page protection. Apparently he's willing to revert any number of times, so long as he gets the page protected on his version. Insists he must keep reverting in order to "uphold policy". Thanks. Jayjg 16:19, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Charles, thanks for stepping in, but Proto already blocked him for 24 hours (based on his 8 or so reverts), and I'm afraid yours will undo his... Jayjg 16:28, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware of that. I've left a note at User talk:Northmeister. Charles Matthews 16:31, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Damaged Goods

Hi Charles. I just saw your comments on Talk:Damaged Goods about the article being too much of a fan piece. While I accept that having an article on a Doctor Who novel is a little on the fannish side, as the main author of the article I did try and keep it as academic as I could. Do you have any specific ideas of how it could be improved to reduce the fannishness? Angmering 17:12, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

yo big boy

Hi Charles. Just to let you know that you and Proto blocked Northmeister; Proto for 24h and you for 3h. 24h seems fully justified in this case, so I've unblocked and reblocked to 24h. Hope thats OK. If it isn't, note that I've also unprotected WP:NOR which was the source of the dispute... William M. Connolley 17:54, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Sigh ... and I thought I was doing so well actually getting User:Northmeister to talk. Did you read what was further up the page? Or any of the discussion on User talk:Northmeister? Charles Matthews 19:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

No. Your shorter block came so quickly on top of Protos that I assumed it was a mistake, especially as I saw no comment on the 3RR page that it was deliberate. I can't see why someone with 8+ rv's deserves anything less than 24h. If NM wants to talk, his userpage is always available. I'm with SV on this William M. Connolley 13:14, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

OK, by the time you intervened I had actually made some undertaking to User:Northmeister. I had a choice of sticking to that, or making formalities an excuse not to. Obviously a huge revert-fest is worth at least a day's block - but if it starts all over again when that's finished, nothing much has been achieved by blocking. I have exchanged quite a few offline mails with Northmeister about this by now. I'm not going to say I've sorted the underlying problem out - that would be giving myself too much credit - but perhaps I've managed a little 'climate change' there. (Worth saying that previous blocks in the log haven't prevented this, but my reading of that is a need to be the Dutch Uncle, rather than just an enforcer.) Charles Matthews 13:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

There was a fair amount of confusion over this, its true. Hopefully this has settled down now? William M. Connolley 14:24, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

N has made half-a-dozen edits today, and seems to be keeping out of trouble. I'm no more confused than usual, all things considered. Regard this as a suspended sentence, if you like: if N fools around in the near future, an extra 24 hours can be added for good measure. Charles Matthews 14:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Missing science topics

Hi Charles. I think you know about the Misplaced Pages:Missing science topics project. Among other things, they have several lists of missing math topics. I was thinking about appending to those lists the entries you have at User:Charles Matthews#Mathematics; I think they may gain extra visibility here. I wonder what you think about that. Thanks, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 17:55, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't really mind. There are some random things there, but mostly they are from Dieudonné, Treatise on Analysis (9 books), Griffiths and Harris, Principles of Algebraic Geometry, Switzer, Algebraic Topology, Warner, Representation Theory of Semisimple Groups.

By the way, the Springer Online Encyclopedia seems to be very closely based on the Hazewinkel (editor) translation of the big Soviet Mathematical Encyclopedia. I happen to have that here; it has a very fine index, so finding things in it should be quite easy. We should link to those articles, at least.

There is also a special algebra encyclopedia online (St Andrews), which I haven't seen mentioned. Charles Matthews 10:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I already added the links from the Springer online encyclopedia to the missing topics, will also add yours, thanks. I will look into the St Andrews encyclopedia. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Maths topics, and physics topics of current (well, last 30 years) post-grad interest appear to me to be fairly well covered. The problem is more in chemistry, fluids flow, and similar applied science topics, where the standard is often uneven. As an example, 'shock waves' is a muddle. Linuxlad 10:45, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

That sounds about right. People write here for nothing: applied science subjects are pretty much those where you expect to have to pay for expertise. Charles Matthews 12:57, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Eh? There are no post-graduate chemists, or (semi)-retired fluid dynamicists? Linuxlad 14:31, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

(Though, if you're saying that people find it easier to write off the cuff on subjects they find 'sexy' I'd agree, alas.)

Probably - the things that New Scientist goes on about, rather than where the gravy is. Charles Matthews 16:53, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Some of us would see it as the meat (engineers, chemists etc never get the gravy, except perhaps in the halcyon days of CEGB :-)) Linuxlad 20:16, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Northmeister

Charles, can I ask you please to restore Northmeister's block. This is a highly disruptive editor who has tried to rewrite and, in fact, overturn the NOR policy, reverting eight times to his version and leaving countless notes on talk containing allegations of corruption and personal attacks. As soon as you unblocked him, he continued on another talk page. SlimVirgin 21:40, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm aware he has been disruptive. I'm in dialogue with him by email, and he says he will be good now. If (of course) he shows that this is not the case, I will block him. I got here entirely by accident. But I suppose I should persist in communicating, rather than applying a 24 hour block which does nothing positive. Charles Matthews 21:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

He has made similar promises before. This is by no means an isolated event. It is his modus operandi. He arrives at pages he knows nothing about and proceeds to drive the regular editors nuts by making the same points on talk over and over and over again, accusing people who won't listen to him of corruption and cabalism, simply because they disagree with him or are ignoring him, and then tries to draw other (usually very new) editors in to support him by presenting himself as David up against Goliath. He's been here since February and has made only 276 edits to articles but 703 to article, user, and project talk, which speaks for itself. SlimVirgin 21:47, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Also, can I point out to you that the blocking policy says blocks should not be overturned without discussing it with the blocking admin? It's extremely discouraging that Northmeister can cause the kind of havoc he caused yesterday and today, inconveniencing about half a dozen experienced editors and at least three admins who had to deal with it, and then have his block reduced to three hours. Particularly as he has been blocked three times before this (and has only been here since February), and he admitted that he violated 3RR deliberately. This is about as egregious a 3RR violation as I could imagine. SlimVirgin 21:51, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

That's enough. Much of the above can be explained by the discussion Talk pages and endless repetition of quesitioning by another user at American System page and now over Laissez Faire. Further I have made 1076 edits overall, not 276 which is to main articles - the 400 or so edits to Talk have been from the above situation which anyone can read. Further, I have been labeled, called names, personally insulted by yourself and others who always seem to be with you when you get in your numerous disputes with editors. I have never broken my word before - where? I will not now. Please stop insulting me with false allegations. --Northmeister 21:59, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Not much to say about this. The easy option for me, having discovered my mistake in blocking on top of User:Proto's block, would have been to go back to what was there before. I could have enjoyed my evening. Instead, I get all this panicky talk, WMC (a very old friend) piling in on top of my block without the slightest consultation while I was engaged in various domestic things. And then Tweedledum and Tweedledee on my User Talk page. My attitude: this is about WP:POINT rather than 3RR. I am trying to have it not happen again. If User:Northmeister really wants to jerk me around on this, I can't prevent that; but perhaps the idea that it wouldn't be too smart may prevail. Charles Matthews 22:24, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

deleting remaining Professors category pages

Hello there. i thought from your discussion in nominating deletion of Category:Professors (since restored but as a cat redirect) in the autumn that you would vote in favour of on a mass professors category page deletion/renaming into appropriate Category:Academics sub-cat pages nomination i ve just made. Regards, Mayumashu 16:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Mobius transformations

I put this comment on the talk page:

There should be a discussion somewhere of the real Mobius transformation on the n-sphere, or equivalently, on the one-point compactification $R^{n}\cup {\infty }$ . This is indeed called a Mobius transformation, see for instance Beardon, The Geometry of discrete groups. Gene Ward Smith 06:21, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I still don't see a good place for it, and I think it should at least say in the into that "Mobius transformation" sometimes means something more general.

It is sometimes equally good to put in a separate Generalizations section. Generally speaking, the intro is a 'lead section', which can get amplified later, and the reader should not take it unequivocally as a definitive statement. OK, this clashes a little with mathematical usage; but in this case anyway it is not too bad to have it done that way. Charles Matthews 14:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Jacques Tits page : victim of vandalism

Hi, I am still finding my way here.

I noticed this].

Now I reverted this, but what happens when someone acts that childish? You can just do that as much as you please?

It isn't the first name this page has been vandalised, for obvious reasons, I don't think those people have an interest in geometry as well...

Evilbu 15:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I've written something on that user's Talk page. Charles Matthews 15:59, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Arb Case Mistake

Hi, im confused about something said in a report on the Arbirition case against me.

In this report, it states that i had warred on Gothic Metal, and been placed on Probation. It also says i violated WPCITE. I want to know how this came about, when both myself and User:Parasti provided diffs to me citing sources. It also says this as a 'finding of fact'. In which case, here is the speficic sections which falsly accuse me of not providing sources, and the evidence that supported this, and the accompnying diffs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Leyasu#Failure_to_cite_sources_and_original_research

Finding Of Fact Contrary To Provided Diffs

Diff from Evidence, Diff from Evidence, Diff from Evidence, taken from Parasti's Evidence. Diff from Evidence, taken from Diff from Evidence, taken from Leys Evidence. Diff from Evidence, Diff from Evidence taken from Leys Evidence Diff from Evidence, Diff from Evidence, taken from Leys Evidence

I even went as far as to quoting and explaining the sources on the talk page, .

I got all these diffs from the archive of the Arbirition case, Here.

I just want to know why all eight claimed i provided no sources, even though another involved party provided diffs of me providing sources, and i repeatedly gave diffs of me supplying sources. Im not having a go, im just confused how 8 Arbirrators managed to claim a 'finding of fact' despite over 10 diffs from two different users =\ Ley Shade 14:57, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Christian Wiki

Hi,

Just wanted to let you know about a christianity wiki that was recently started and has now moved to it's own server. Because of your interest, I think you would be a valuable member of our team and I'd love to have your contributions.

We are just about ready to go live!

As soon as we finalize the CPOV policy, I think we're ready to "go public" with this project and invite the world! We can submit to DMOZ and Google and start getting some real active hits on that site.

Please take a look and see if this project is something you would like to get behind. the URL is: ChristWiki

-- nsandwich 04:25, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

This is spam: you have no reason to assume my interest. Charles Matthews 08:10, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

ArbCom closing vote

Mr. Matthews, while urging leniency, please be kind enough to go here, and indicate which of your votes are the first and the second choice here, such that upon clarification, it may mean the difference of being topically banned or banned on two articles. Thank youZmmz 19:01, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry and thanks

you know what I mean «₪Mÿš†íc₪» 20:04, 5 May 2006 (UTC)