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Revision as of 07:18, 8 March 2013 by Nihonjoe (talk | contribs) (→Vanishing: new section)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)quitting this facade for the promotion of Christianity, and the egos of admins. Humanpublic (talk) 15:34, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks; also I forgot WP:IDONTCARE
Basket Feudalist 17:42, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks; also I forgot WP:IDONTCARE
Spot on!
Yep. Basket Feudalist 17:43, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Facade?
"...facade for the promotion of Christianity"? You've got to be kidding. This website has been alleged to be controlled by atheists, homosexuals, religionists, porn-purveyors, left-wing radicals, right-wing radicals, any ethnic group you can name, and even the "circumcision cabal" (I kid you not), and a host of other lobbyists. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 11:46, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- But Bugs, doesn't the exclusion of one's fringe and unsourced personal agenda obviously means that the site is intentionally and systematically supporting the very thing that one is blindly biased against. I mean, that's what "two wrongs make a right" means, doesn't it? I don't know why we have WP:GEVAL. </WP:sarc> Ian.thomson (talk) 14:54, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- I'd echo what Bugs has said – take a look at WT:WikiProject Conservatism for example. And then there are the BC/AD vs. BCE/CE WP:ERA warriors (and music genre changing warriors)... Humanpublic, I'll offer the advice that you need to be somewhat thick-skinned in order to prosper here. So maybe wait a few days or weeks and come back with a fresh perspective. Misplaced Pages is a big tent and I'm sure there are far more like–minded folks around here than you might imagine. And Ian, I'd say questioning the resurrection of Jesus is hardly a fringe theory – even if limited to English speakers only...but I understand your point. Mojoworker (talk) 17:12, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- Mojoworker, merely "questioning the resurrection of Jesus" (which I completely grant many scholars do and that our articles should not be written to deny that) is not what Humanpublic has been up to. He's been fighting against the very possibility that there existed a Jewish apocalyptic teacher (common in Roman Judea) and possible Messiah claimant (also not uncommon at the time) named Yeshua (an extremly common name during the time) who might have been heard by individuals who developed the early Christian church and had been the inspiration for the Jesus worshiped in Christianity. He's pretty much lumped in agnostic and atheist scholars like Bart D. Ehrman in with Christian theologians in his continued insistend that there's no true Scot- I mean scholarly support for the historical existence of Jesus (not Jesus's divinity or humanity, but mere existence). Even Robert M. Price, who denies the historical existence of Jesus, admits that the idea Jesus didn't exist is a fringe view not supported by the majority of scholarship. Humanpublic has also accused many users of being Christian POV-pushers (as if only Christians claimed Jesus existed) for simply not helping his crusade to present that fringe theory as a proven fact in the article. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:17, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- A single-purpose account, by definition, lacks broader exposure to wikipedia, and thus assumes that whatever barrier he's run into on a particular subject somehow reflects the general situation. As an example, someone with an axe to grind against a particular company will accuse neutral POV editors of "working for" that company. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 23:22, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- Mojoworker, merely "questioning the resurrection of Jesus" (which I completely grant many scholars do and that our articles should not be written to deny that) is not what Humanpublic has been up to. He's been fighting against the very possibility that there existed a Jewish apocalyptic teacher (common in Roman Judea) and possible Messiah claimant (also not uncommon at the time) named Yeshua (an extremly common name during the time) who might have been heard by individuals who developed the early Christian church and had been the inspiration for the Jesus worshiped in Christianity. He's pretty much lumped in agnostic and atheist scholars like Bart D. Ehrman in with Christian theologians in his continued insistend that there's no true Scot- I mean scholarly support for the historical existence of Jesus (not Jesus's divinity or humanity, but mere existence). Even Robert M. Price, who denies the historical existence of Jesus, admits that the idea Jesus didn't exist is a fringe view not supported by the majority of scholarship. Humanpublic has also accused many users of being Christian POV-pushers (as if only Christians claimed Jesus existed) for simply not helping his crusade to present that fringe theory as a proven fact in the article. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:17, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- I'd echo what Bugs has said – take a look at WT:WikiProject Conservatism for example. And then there are the BC/AD vs. BCE/CE WP:ERA warriors (and music genre changing warriors)... Humanpublic, I'll offer the advice that you need to be somewhat thick-skinned in order to prosper here. So maybe wait a few days or weeks and come back with a fresh perspective. Misplaced Pages is a big tent and I'm sure there are far more like–minded folks around here than you might imagine. And Ian, I'd say questioning the resurrection of Jesus is hardly a fringe theory – even if limited to English speakers only...but I understand your point. Mojoworker (talk) 17:12, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- I suggest all of you stop using this talk page as a forum for discussing HP (as well as other unrelated topics) in HP's absence. Give it a rest.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:29, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
- Well, OK, but he's never been blocked, and he's free to comment here at any time, if he wants to. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 03:21, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
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