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April 2013

Please do not attack other editors, as you did to WP:AN. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Bbb23 (talk) 22:47, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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Who do you think I 'attacked'? 88.104.27.58 (talk) 23:00, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I assume you're referring to this edit, that you removed.

I said that a statement was stupid - and explained why; I also said NYB was an asset to Misplaced Pages.

So, perhaps you made a mistake? 88.104.27.58 (talk) 23:02, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Your exact text was saying "how fucking stupid your statement was". Saying it's a straw-man argument is okay, saying that it's a falliable statement would, but calling it fucking stupid is an attack on the mental character of the person who made the statement. You know there were many better ways to word that, but you chose to call it "fucking stupid", which is obviously not fully about the comment but about the person just as much. gwickwireediting 03:55, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
  • <Sigh>. I'm not trying to be a jerk here 88, but I really hope you do get done with your "See how bad IP editors are treated" experiment pretty soon. Then maybe you can login to your account and work on .. ummm ... oh, I don't know - maybe actually improving some articles? Any chance of that happening any time soon? Just wondering - I mean you're on what? At least your 3rd IP in the last month or two? Come on, .. Please? — Ched :  ?  04:25, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

It's not an experiment.

I came back to edit because I wanted to make a few changes to a couple of articles - which I did. The 'badly treated IP' thing just happened - several times. I think it looks like an experiment because I know enough WP to try and defend myself, whereas most IPs just give up.

I doubt I'll go back to my account, because it's an extremely toxic environment, it's just too stressful here.

I'm only hanging out at the moment to pursue the copyright RFC (which Maggie advised me to start, following a discussion started by another person on Jimbo's talk). I don't know if I'll bother with that either though; I'm getting insults and thinly-veiled block threats about that too . 88.104.27.58 (talk) 14:54, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Yea, I saw that one. The kid's just trying to make an impression on everyone. He means well, just lacks some perspective and experience and all. He's actually pretty bright with the techie stuff too. I agree, the project is struggling a bit - and I've even lost my temper a few times and posted in ways I wish I wouldn't have. There's been a couple pretty decent admins. caught up in things though that are getting some heat I really don't think they deserve. I admit, it's easy to forget to treat everyone the same - and far too often we, including myself, tend to "been there, done that" - and jump to the typical "IP WP:NOTHERE conclusions. I haven't been looking in on the copyright stuff since I did the WP:FIXNF thing and shortly after that delta/beta got banned. Look, if you are who I think you are - then I know full well that you are good people, and that you've done a HUGE amount of hard work to make this place better. *and I'll add that I honestly do miss seeing you around - nobody was better at helping folks than you) And I know it looks like it's all going to hell sometimes. It's not that I have any answers - it's just that I have to see the discord. I don't know 88 .. whatever I guess. You take care. — Ched :  ?  17:09, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
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