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Instructions

New requests should be listed at the top of the "New Requests" section, right below the template sample. All requests must use the template provided below.

• Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Guide provides an explanation for how to file a request.
• Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Sample shows the template with instructions.
• Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Common Reasons for Rejection has a description of common reasons for rejecting requests.

All parties to the mediation must indicate agreement to mediate by signing the "Parties' agreement to mediate" section; any request that has not been signed by all parties within 7 days will be rejected. Please watch this page during the time the case is listed here; if additional information is required, you will be asked here, and expected to respond within the 7 day period.

Case name (Sample)

Involved parties

• Example (talk · contribs)
• Example (talk · contribs)

Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request: Provide diffs showing where {{RFMF}} was added to the talk page(s) of the involved article(s), and {{RFM-Request}} was placed on the talk pages of the other parties.

Article talk pages:

• Foo

User talk pages:

• User:Example

Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted:

• WP:RFC link
• WP:AN/I discussion

Issues to be mediated

• Issue 1
• Issue 2

Additional issues to be mediated

• Additional issue 1
• Additional issue 2

Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected.

• Agree.

Decision of the Mediation Committee

• Accept/Reject/Extend: Reason for rejection (if rejected), additional required information (if extended.)

For the Mediation Committee, (Mediation Committee members only.)

New Requests

External link dipute/edit war on article Belly dance/Talk:Belly dance

Involved parties

• Cassandra581 (talk · contribs)
• Mel Etitis (talk · contribs)
• SteveHopson (talk · contribs)
• Amalas (talk · contribs)

Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request:

Article talk pages:

• Talk:Belly dance

User talk pages:

• User:Cassandra581
• User:Mel Etitis
• User:SteveHopson
• User:Amalas

Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted:

• Talk:Belly_dance#More_About_External_Links discussion on article talk page
• Talk:Belly_dance#.7B.7Bcontent.7D.7D_in_Belly_dance.23External_links discussion on article talk page
• attempt at informal mediation
• attempt at third opinion (removed because dispute was already in informal mediation)

Issues to be mediated

• Whether or not there is a specific limit on how many external links may be included with an article.
• Whether or not Mel Etitis should be removing external links that follow Misplaced Pages guidelines just because he has made his own limit as to how many links and which links he thinks should be included.

Additional issues to be mediated

• Continued deviation from actual dispute
• Continued accusations about the identity of User:Cassandra581

Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected.

• Agree. Cassandra581 07:54, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
• Agree Amalas =^_^= 13:58, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
• Agree. As we say in Texas, I don't have a dog in this hunt and will support any resolution of this issue by this process or any other. My only involvement has been to research the identity of the owner of the website in question. For reasons stated on other pages and discussions, I am convinced that Cassandra Strand (the owner) and Cassandra581 are the same person. SteveHopson 14:41, 24 May 2006 (UTC) (Comments Updated)

Decision of the Mediation Committee

• Accept/Reject/Extend: Reason for rejection (if rejected), additional required information (if extended.)

For the Mediation Committee, (Mediation Committee members only.)

Usage of the actual term "Islamophobia" by WP editors

Involved parties

• Irishpunktom (talk · contribs)
• Netscott (talk · contribs)
• Raphael1 (talk · contribs)
• Karl Meier (talk · contribs)

Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request:

Article talk pages:

• Talk:Islamophobia

User talk pages:

• User:Karl Meier
• User:Irishpunktom
• User:Raphael1

Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted:

• Talk:Islamophobia#Efforts_combatting_Islamophobia_section
• Talk:Islamophobia#Usage_of_the_actual_Islamophobia_term_in_this_article
• User_talk:Netscott#Yes

Issues to be mediated

• Counter to the Avoid neologisms guidelines should the article be written while actually utilizing the "islamophobia" neologism outside of quotes and citations?

Additional issues to be mediated

• In respect to this neologism's status should it have an Examples of use in public discourse section (similar to the Islamofascism) article as it does in this version or not, as in this version?

Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected.

• Agree as initiator of mediation demand. Netscott 17:11, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• agree --Irishpunktom\ 09:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
• Agree Raphael1 01:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
• Agree on the condition that Irishpunktom end his personal attacks and name-calling against me. It doesn't make any sense, and it will not be possible to discuss any such serious matters without some basic civility, and seen in the light of the very recent and very serious NPA violations, this will have to be agreed to by Irishpunktom for me to accept and spend time on any such mediation. -- Karl Meier 17:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

We don't take conditional accepts; you have to either agree or disagree. You may propose conditions as a part of your continued participation once the mediation is accepted, but anything other than "Agree" is considered to be a refusal to take part. See the instructions on Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_mediation/Sample#Parties.27_agreement_to_mediate: Only signatures should go here, along with either "Agree" or "Do not agree." Any additional comments will be removed by a member of the Mediation Committee. Please indicate stright agreement, or disagreement. Essjay (Talk • Connect) 01:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

As soon as Irishpunktom indicate that he will end his personal attacks, I will remove the conditions that I have added here. He can mention that he agree to end his personal attacks here, on my talkpage or somewhere else. I doesn't matter much. But until he does indeed agree to that very basic rule I will not spend time or agree to any mediation that include him. -- Karl Meier 09:19, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

• I'm not sure where to put this, but whilst I haven't been directly involved in edit wars on this topic, I have a stake in how this proceeds and have interacted frequently with all the users cited on this article. If the mediation is public, I'll watch regardless, but does the mediation process make sense for (thus far) an interested observer? Nysin 05:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Decision of the Mediation Committee

• Accept/Reject/Extend: Reason for rejection (if rejected), additional required information (if extended.)

For the Mediation Committee, (Mediation Committee members only.)

Rules of war in Islam

Involved parties

• Bless sins (talk · contribs)
• Pecher (talk · contribs)
• Karl Meier (talk · contribs)
• Amibidhrohi (talk · contribs)
• Tickle me (talk · contribs)
• Timothy Usher (talk · contribs)
• Zeq (talk · contribs)
• Aminz (talk · contribs)

Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request:

Article talk pages:

• Talk:Rules_of_war_in_Islam#Placing_disputed_content_on_talk_page_-_proposal_for_mediation

Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted:

• Talk:Rules of war in Islam#Modern_Rules talk page discussion

Issues to be mediated

• Should the article include the provisions of the Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam pertaning to the rules of war?

Additional issues to be mediated

Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected.

• Agree. Pecher 19:29, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Agree. Zeq 19:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Agree. Bless sins 20:06, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Agree. Amibidhrohi 23:24, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Agree. tickle me 03:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
• Ageee. Though I don't see that I've been involved.Timothy Usher 05:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
• Agree. Karl Meier 08:23, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Decision of the Mediation Committee

Tatu vs t.A.T.u.

Message added by 01:04, 23 May 2006 (UTC), on behalf of the Mediation Committee.

Kven users POV

Conduct of users

Sonic the Hedgehog etc

Anti-Americanism

Neo-Tech

Involved parties

• RJII (talk · contribs)
• Bi (talk · contribs)

Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request:

Article talk pages:

• User talk pages:

• ===Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted:===

• discussion on Talk page

Issues to be mediated

• This concerns the article, Neo-Tech. Bi claims that books published by Integrated Management Associates (a company that publishes material about a philosophy called Neo-Tech) cannot be used as references for the article about Neo-Tech ("Incidentally, the rules also say that "self-published books" are unacceptable as sources. Well, I think I'm going to throw out lots of stuff that come only from Neo-Tech's self-publications. Bi 10:03, 4 May 2006 (UTC)"), which is bizarre becase it's the only sources on the philosophy. Lest there be any doubt, WP:V plainly says: Self-published sources, and published sources of dubious reliability, may be used only as sources of information on themselves, and only in articles about them. For example, the Stormfront website may be used as a source of information on itself in an article about Stormfront, so long as the information is notable, not unduly self-aggrandizing, and not contradicted by reliable, third-party published sources. Self-published sources may never be used as sources of information on another person or topic. Of course you can use the books as sources about the philosophy, in the article about the philosophy! Otherwise, the article would be blank! (As an aside, I'd like to note that the company also publishes the work of other writers not associated with the company as well). Also, he sources "criticism" of Neo-Tech from web forums, self-published web pages, etc rather than from credible published sources. He expressed a desire for form dispute resolution, as have I. Please assist enforcing the Misplaced Pages policies on sourcing. It should be pretty simple and straightforward to mediate this. Thank you. RJII 01:58, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Additional issues to be mediated

• Thank you. In addition to being self-published, the Neo-Tech literature can be considered to be "unduly self-aggrandizing", which WP:V does not allow. Besides, given that Neo-Tech literature is self-published and self-aggrandizing, it would seem unfair to use a different standard for admitting views opposed to Neo-Tech. Bi 06:07, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected.

• Agree. RJII 03:03, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
• Agree. Bi 06:08, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Decision of the Mediation Committee

• Accept/Reject/Extend:

For the Mediation Committee,

• Chairman's note: Recuse from involvement. Another member of the committee will need to accept/reject the case and assign a mediator. Essjay (Talk • Connect) 06:38, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
• Comments

NOw I see Neo-Tech is a disambiguatio npage. Which one is this mediation about? -- Drini 12:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Neo-Tech (philosophy) RJII 05:38, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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