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{{ANZC nav}} is used at Template:Adelaide Thunderbirds, Template:Canterbury Tactix, Template:Central Pulse, Template:Melbourne Vixens, Template:New South Wales Swifts, Template:Northern Mystics, Template:Queensland Firebirds, Template:Southern Steel, Template:Waikato Bay of Plenty Magic, Template:West Coast Fever.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:31, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

there were so few that I simply updated them by hand. Frietjes (talk) 17:23, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:20, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

{{Volleyball national squad}} and {{Volleyball national squad no numbers}} are used at Category:Olympics volleyball team navigational boxes and Category:Volleyball team navigational boxes.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:08, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

currently no {{{state}}} in either of those template, so passing a value through |state= would do nothing. Frietjes (talk) 14:59, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

The only topic template at Category:History and events templates by continent that I was unable to convert was {{Americas topic}} in Template:History of the Americas templates.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:13, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

should work now. Frietjes (talk) 15:06, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

At Category:Austria-Hungary templates, Template:Cisleithanian elections in Austria-Hungary, Template:Croatian elections in Austria-Hungary, Template:Hungarian elections in Austria-Hungary all say unable to determine where to put the state parameter.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:03, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

if you look at the template, you will see there is no / button, so these templates do not collapse or uncollapse. hence, adding instructions about collapsing something that does not collapse is not a good idea. if there is no or button, we don't add {{collapsible option}} or |state=. Frietjes (talk) 15:08, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

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Break tags in Infobox Christian leader

{{Infobox Christian leader}} needs some adjustment to include break tags in honorific-prefix the same way {{Infobox officeholder}} does. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:42, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

I discovered this problem while trying to remove break tags: -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:48, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

that template is fully protected, so I can't really help you. Frietjes (talk) 17:12, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

If you provide me a sandbox, I can finish the job. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:37, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Waikouaiti - something needs to be done

I'm in transit at the moment (currently Kuala Lumpur airport) so I'm not able to give this the attention it deserves. And I'm not sure what sort of internet service I'm travelling to. If you haven't got time for this, just tell me where I should start - is there an {{infobox NZ places}}? John of Cromer in Philippines transit (talk) mytime= Fri 20:01, wikitime= 12:01, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

fixed, there are more in Category:Populated places in the Otago Region. Frietjes (talk) 16:21, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Maybe animal infoboxes could be merged?

Can you please check Category:Animal infobox templates. I think some of these infoboxes could be merged to a single one or share the same code plus some child infobox. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:32, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

you should suggest this to Pigsonthewing, since he is the creator of most of these templates. Frietjes (talk) 15:43, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

I left Andy a note. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:03, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Happy for that to be done. provided the marked up (with a microformat) species names are preserved. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:36, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Frietjes is it possible to do it? -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:36, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

certainly possible, but would take some time to sort out all the overlaps. Frietjes (talk) 21:45, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Infobox men's college basketball team‎, etc.

Frietjes, here's a template merge I would support in a heartbeat: Template:Infobox men's college basketball team‎ and Template:Infobox women's college basketball team‎.

Have you ever contemplated a comprehensive merge of all the college sports team infobox templates? With a handful of options, I think all U.S. college sports could be accommodated and the team infoboxes would then have a uniform appearance across all sports. Just a thought . . . . Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:48, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

the first is already proposed here. I had thought about the second as well, but it will take more time to work out all the details, since there are differences in the post-season tournament section for various sports. Frietjes (talk) 22:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

I just posted a comment in support of the merge of men's and women's college basketball templates. That pending merge should be a no-brainer, and you are clearly already on top of the two minor issues to be addressed in the combined template.

The creation of a combined infobox template for all U.S. college sports teams would require a lot of work and the inclusion of several options, but the core information to be included is common to all. Differences in NCAA playoff structure, etc., could be accommodated by options to be toggled as needed. The payoff would be worth the effort. Not only should these infoboxes have a common appearance within a given sport, the teams affiliated with a given university should also have a common appearance and graphics style, and that can only be accomplished by a common template across all college sports teams. I think you would find the college football, basketball and baseball sports projects to be supportive, and the other college sports do not have active/vocal WikiProjects and tend to follow the lead of the football, basketball and baseball projects. I would be grateful for your help in making this happen, but I also understand that you have numerous pending template projects already. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 11:14, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

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Infobox Indy500 needs conversion to use Infobox

Template:Infobox music conference, Template:Infobox chord, Template:Infobox artist discography and Template:Infobox producer discography. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:37, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

first two fixed. Frietjes (talk) 22:50, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Template:Infobox television channel too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:52, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

User:Magioladitis, see this thread. the number of fields is about double what was previously possible. it is still possible if without lua, but we would need to use more child boxes. Frietjes (talk) 16:19, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

will make an edit request. Frietjes (talk) 15:42, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Self-titled album 2003

Baxter released a self-titled album in 2003.
Linda Perry has a production discography article and is a notable member of Deep Dark Robot.
Through the Eyes of the Dead released The Scars of Ages in 2004. --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:00, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Navene Koperweis is a former member of The Faceless. --Jax 0677 (talk) 03:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Scott Devours is a former member of Ima Robot.
Timmy T covered "Please Don't Go" by KC and the Sunshine Band
--Jax 0677 (talk) 18:02, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

This starts to look at dodging a topic ban... The Banner talk 23:11, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

and this looks like someone can't count. Frietjes (talk) 23:16, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Alfredo Ortiz, Timo Ellis and Richard Steel were members of Morningwood.
Luis Dubuc, formerly of The Secret Handshake created Mystery Skulls, Antarctica and Night & Day (The Secret Handshake album).
"The Words I Would Say" is a song from These Simple Truths by Sidewalk Prophets.
Misery Index will likely release Absent Light in July 2013.
Kevin Gilbert was a member of Toy Matinee.
Fiona recently released Unbroken
Blood Red Shoes' top single was "You Bring Me Down"
D Mob's first single was titled "We Call It Acieed"
"The Different Story (World of Lust and Crime)" was Peter Schilling's most recent U.S. Hot 100 Pop hit.
Bill Medley recorded "I Still Do" in 1984 and Bill Medley: Damn Near Righteous in 2007.
Tunnel of No Light is the latest album by October Tide
--Jax 0677 (talk) 03:19, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Vijayakanth needs conversion to wikitable

Vijayakanth has an ugly table. Can you please help? -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:57, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

fixed. Frietjes (talk) 17:13, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

AN/I

FYI: Dodging a topic ban The Banner talk 17:03, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Infobox to infobox ...

Abu Bakr uses Infobox directly. Can you please replace it with the correct infobox? -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:18, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

partially done. there were a few fields that weren't in the infobox, so I used a child box for those. Frietjes (talk) 15:26, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Same for Council for Economic Education. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:44, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

done. Frietjes (talk) 16:52, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Template:Infobox motorsport venue

Hi Frietjes. I was wondering if you might be able to have a look at the bug documented at Template_talk:Infobox_motorsport_venue#Conversion. Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 12:19, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I hope to find time to look at your changes in detail within the next couple of days. DH85868993 (talk) 15:35, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

sure. I also added optional lowercase parameters, since that seems to be the trend for infoboxes. Frietjes (talk) 15:41, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Show template para or not

Three more questions for {{infobox Bach composition}}: how can a title - normally italic - be not italic? how can a parameter be not shown (example: BWV)? how can a parameter be normally not shown, but shown on demand (example cantata_cycle)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

reply to Gerda Arendt

1. two options here, one is to make |name= show the title without italics and |title= show the title with italics, or two is to have a |noitalics= option which would remove the italics. which do you prefer?
2. this edit makes bwv fully optional.
3. the way that infobox works, if a parameter is passed as {{{cantata_cycle|}}} to a data field, the field and label will only appear if |cantata_cycle= is specified and not blank.

which ever you prefer for option 1, I can make it happen (seems like |name= is undocumented, and probably not widely used). Frietjes (talk) 20:53, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your immediate response! I was not clear enough, again ;) - The BWV number that should not show is the one below the pic, - there was a concern (talk BWV 103), that this rather technical number appears too often. - Title: I would prefer the "noitalic" version, the other seems to be a bit tricky to explain in the documentation. - Can a specified cantata_cycle not be shown, but be present as metadata (because there's this concern that the box is too long already)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt, I simply commented out the second one since it is redundant and added |noitalic=. as far as having metadata that doesn't visibly appear in the infobox, it is possible, but would be more challenging to make it work with {{infobox}}. basically, you can wrap anything inside of a <span>...</span> with style="display:none" and it won't be visible (see the start of this comment). however, you need a place to hang it, which means there will typically be a blank line, or a blank cell in the table, which doesn't really help the situation. if this is seriously needed, I can certainly work on it, but I am sure the meta-data folks would not be happy, since there is a belief that hidden metadata won't be regularly updated, since it isn't visible, and is prone to errors. Frietjes (talk) 21:14, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, helped again! Cantata_cycle is not urgent enough ;) - Now how do I code a title with the noitalic option, as in Bach cantata? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt, just type |noitalic=y or |noitalic=true or any non-blank value for that parameter. Frietjes (talk) 21:41, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Lowercase parameters

Template:Infobox Upanishad needs to support |image= and |caption= like all other infoboxes. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:58, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

fixed, although neither of the two transclusions have images. Frietjes (talk) 17:15, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Do you know how we could find all infoboxes that use |Image= and |Caption= and change them? -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:22, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

if they are using {{infobox}}, it might be possible to find them there, using the 'parent' parameters in the lua module. I'm not sure if you can get the parent's parent's parameters, but it seems like it may be possible with lua. the more robust alternative to get ones that aren't using infobox would be to search a database dump, but I have never done this before either. Frietjes (talk) 17:26, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Template:Infobox F1 race uses non-standard names. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:32, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

updated. Frietjes (talk) 18:32, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Quique Estebaranz

Hi there FRIEJTES, AL "here",

please leave the external links section as previously. I'm trying to keep coherence in the 1,000s of articles related to Spanish football, and this is the display i've been using.

Sorry for any inconvenience, keep up the good work, from Portugal --AL (talk) 18:26, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

• I think my message/approach was polite, you feel differently OK. --AL (talk) 19:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
  • the NFT website was changed, so the NFT player template must be updated, and this is the format used by all of the Category:Association football external link templates. Frietjes (talk) 19:01, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

• I see what you mean. NFT.com is a template OK, but the other two are manually inserted. --AL (talk) 19:02, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
  • and per WP:EGG we should indicate the destination for the links. Frietjes (talk) 19:03, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Opera

In {{infobox opera}}, can you install the image size as parameter, as in others? Once you are there, the title is not italic, as the documentation says, or did I read that wrong? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:04, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

there is a parameter, called |image_size=. the italic_title feature is for the page title, but I added font-style:italic to the infobox title as well. there are several places where this could probably be added, but this seems to be the safest place to add it. seems like most of the articles are adding the italics manually, so not a big issue. Frietjes (talk) 14:41, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

For some reason, the template seems to alter the title of the page on which it appears, see User Talk:Gerda Arendt/Infobox, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:04, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

yes, that's the |italic title=, you set it to |italic title=no to disable this feature. Frietjes (talk) 20:29, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

that means, if the box is present in an opera article, it renders the page title italic? I missed that, thinking only the title in the box, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:29, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

yes, that's right. can certainly change this to make it default no italic, but that is the way it works right now. Frietjes (talk) 22:32, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

fine with me, thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:37, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Eggs

Thanks for this: at least I do not break templates without making eggs. --Mirokado (talk) 23:12, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Ljubisa Stamenkovic

I am actually doing research to see how many games coached and will fix this in a few minutes Milosg97 (talk) 02:13, 26 June 2013 (CET)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

Thank you for editing Sandhani page. Dr. Kabir Hossain (talk) 18:41, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Colors for the voice templates

Hello! I noticed you undid the colours I added to The Voice (U.S.) templates. Just curious, is there some manual of style I'm missing? I just wanted to colour code the templates because there are quite a few. cheers, ⊾maine12329⊿ talks✿wiki 02:18, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

basically guidelines in wp:deviations. we try use the default colouring unless there is a strong reason not to do so. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 15:02, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikify

Do you mind wikifying this template in a simple way for me please? Template:Scriptures. Bless Pass a Method talk 18:31, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

how is that? Frietjes (talk) 19:28, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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Legislature infobox colours

Hi. Why are you removing all background colours from infoboxes on legislature articles? The parameter has been used for years, and Template:Infobox legislature suggests using the dominant colour of the respective house. So why do you remove all these background colours without any reason given at all? In this edit, you say "unsourced" - what exactly would need a source? I don't see the big deal about colours, in my opinion it gives familiarity to the reader by using the colour of the respective parliament, and for editors it makes it easier to see on which article you are when you are dealing with a lot of legislature articles. Most infoboxes use colours anyway. Thank you, SPQRobin (talk) 21:08, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

(1) the colours can be misleading, since they frequently correspond to the colours for a particular political party, (2) the colours can cause readability issues, and (3) there is almost never a source for the particular colour of the legislature. so, in this case, it is better to go with wp:deviations, which discourages deviating from the default. Frietjes (talk) 14:45, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

(1) These articles are clearly about a legislature and not about a political party. With this reasoning you could say a parliament's website can be misleading when its main colour happens to be one used by a certain political party. (2) I might agree with this, but as I said, colours are so widespread on Misplaced Pages; the colour schemes being used are used on countless other pages. (3) I have never heard of colours requiring a source. Is there a source for The Simpsons using yellow? Parliaments' websites usually have a clear main colour; if not, then we can use the default colour.
I would really appreciate if you do not remove all colours from legislature articles. These colours have always been there and imposing their removal requires broader consensus. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 00:15, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Adminship

Hi Frietjes! I stumbled across your talk page just now, and I couldn't help but notice all the requests that you have had to respond to with "that template is fully protected, so there's not much I can do". Well, I think there is something we can do about that. Would you be interested in running for adminship? It would be great to be able to give you access to all of our protected templates, and I promise to write you up a very persuasive nomination statement if you agree to run. Let me know what you think. Best — Mr. Stradivarius 15:58, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

thank you, but not right now. the primary reason being that I probably spend too much time here already, and the "not much I can do" is basically a way of reducing the workload, since I clearly know how to make an edit request. there are also other reasons. it's too bad they don't have a permission level that just allows for editing high-visibility templates. but thank you for the vote of confidence. Frietjes (talk) 16:08, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I understand. (But I don't think adminship is as big a deal as you might be thinking.) Anyway, if you have a change of heart at any point, just let me know and I will nominate you. — Mr. Stradivarius 08:43, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Rail

Hi Frietjes. I am intending on a more descriptive, less misleading classification for Britain's railways. Please give your thoughts as to how we can improve the current classification at the railways template where you have been a contributor. Adam37 (talk) 15:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Fundamental theorem of linear algebra

Your edits have rendered much of the article unreadable due to formatting errors. Please review and correct. Ross Fraser (talk) 16:39, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

For your attention

That the maps are POV-ed is a problem. Expanding details on the basis of a known defect complicates the mess and is no answer. See this, where area editors are mulling a solution Thankyou Nishidani (talk) 17:40, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hebrew

Hi Frietjes,

Thanks for making the changes. Actually I got an answer at the village pump and it led to the new language selector extension. It appears that the font screwup was a bug, and current a free font with good nikud was implemented by Amir Aharoni just in the last hour or so. The issue is therefore no longer relevant. Sorry for making you work, I just didn't have enough time to clarify that the issue was dealt with :)

Cheers, Ynhockey 20:25, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Category:Infobox wrapper templates

I have created Category:Infobox wrapper templates. Please feel free to make use of it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:56, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Captions

Thanks! I'll avoid periods moving forward. -Mclovin'tosh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mclovin'tosh (talk • contribs) 16:26, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Unnecessary football navboxes

Can you help me discuss these discussions: Misplaced Pages:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 July 12? Banhtrung1 (talk) 12:12, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Musical composition again

In consistency with {{infobox opera}}, I moved the composer further up on {{infobox musical composition}}. It looks now very bold and big if there is a subtitle, as in the example "The Rite of Spring". I could imagine to have both subtitle and composer smaller font, both title and subtitle blue. What do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:54, 22 July 2013 (UTC)