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Ayyash
Carefully read your source because he only said about the Ayyash district in the Deir ez-Zor and not about the village Ayyash. Hanibal911 (talk) 19:53, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
no, it's clearly says the TOWN of ayyash, not the district. there are no rebels in the district.
http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/f089d901-7c21-4ae1-9ba8-d7e85d5a3983
Amensnober91 (talk) 20:39, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
We can use only the English version of Al Jazeera because an Arabic version is based on the data of only opposition activists. This is the same in Iranian sources. In the Arabic version Al Jazeera mostly information is also questionable of as and in most the Iranian sources. I urge you to compromise. Hanibal911 (talk) 21:46, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
its the SAME network. there is no difference, only that the Arabic version is more detailed about the Syrian war.
and the iranian sources are not considered global as Aljazeera, they are just domestic Shiites sources, so they are not the same thing.Amensnober91 (talk) 21:54, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
You guys seem to be missing the point. Al Jazeera quoted SOHR's report, and SOHR's original report said AROUND the villages not in them. So, Al Jazeera didn't translate into their story what SOHR originally stated. Just that makes it unreliable as a source. EkoGraf (talk) 22:57, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
it didn't mention SOHR, so.Amensnober91 (talk) 04:32, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Where do you think all news agencies get most of their information on Syria? Answer - SOHR. Who else reported the fighting beside SOHR? Nobody. Who repored it first? SOHR. In any case, seems at least one editor has agreed to the compromise solution (read discussion). So while personally I am of the opinion that it should be completely red, a lime ring will be put. I would ask both you and Hanibal to refrain from further edit warring. EkoGraf (talk) 11:20, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Aleppo province
Your source only said about villages Deman, Husseinia and Brazilian but not the village Al-Barzaniyah. Your source only said about villages Deman, Husseinia and Brazilian but not the village Al-Barzaniyah. Why you pointed Al-Barzaniyah the under rebel control. Hanibal911 (talk) 22:18, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
there is no village by the name of Brazilian. clearly they mean Al-Barzaniyah. and the others sources says Al-Barzaniyah, not Brazilian. so its the same village with a different pronounce.Amensnober91 (talk) 11:24, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Listen up, if you want to edit on Misplaced Pages you need to follow the rules or you can get banned. First, your speculation they check the claims/reports and confirm if it was true then they report it on the channel is just that, speculation. That is your personal POV which is in violation of Misplaced Pages's rule on POV pushing/editing. The report does not say anywhere the corespondent confirmed the report, actually the source literally says that according to the corespondent the rebels announced their takeover of the villages. NOWHERE does it say he confirmed it. As for SOHR, they also never confirmed it, they reported fighting AROUND the villages, never in them. If you want to edit on Misplaced Pages you need to follow its rules and they are clear. No edits based on our personal points of view (POV), no edit warring, no insulting language against other editors. All three you violated. As for editing this particular map, the ground rules have been made established long ago by editors of this map. Opposition claims can not be used when reporting opposition advances (your source), government claims can not be used when reporting government advances, opposition claims can be used when reporting government advances, government claims can be used when reporting opposition advances, journalist on-sight claims can be used, SOHR has been declared an exception to the rules and used for all claims of advances (due to their high level of trying to be neutral even though they are opposition), SOHR facebook sources are not allowed on this map but sources from their official site are allowed (I don't agree with the ban on the facebook sources but the others decided against them), youtube videos are also not allowed per Misplaced Pages policy. 15:25, 5 March 2014 (UTC)EkoGraf (talk)
Aljazeera is a reliable source. its says that the rebels has taken control of these two villages. and if it wasn't confirmed according to the channel they wouldn't report anything. and that's all enough to make the change. unless you have a reliable source saying the opposite of this, then stop ruining the map.16:08, 5 March 2014 (UTC)Amensnober91 (talk)
Al Jazeera is reliable but their corespondent didn't report it himself, he reported what the rebels claimed. You are aware that Al Jazeera reported on hundreds of SANA claims as well? Are you going to say that just because they also reported what SANA says than SANA's claims also must be true? 16:18, 5 March 2014 (UTC)EkoGraf (talk)
What? No response? 16:57, 5 March 2014 (UTC)EkoGraf (talk)
once again, Aljazeera don't just copy rebels claims. they check the reliability of the source and confirm it by their OWN reporters on the ground. go to the following link and read. 17:04, 5 March 2014 (UTC)Amensnober91 (talk)
http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/8f02c648-1e2a-4604-a156-a8b0008ce68c
Your source clearly says the claim came from a rebel corespondent. Read it carefully. once again, Aljazeera don't just copy rebels claims. they check the reliability of the source and confirm it by their OWN reporters on the ground. That is your personal opinion, which I respect, but which Misplaced Pages does not accept. But than again, if it were true, wouldn't that mean Al Jazeera confirmed all of the hundreds of SANA's claims they also reported on since the start of the war? Listen, per Misplaced Pages policy I am trying to compromise here with you. We put lime rings around the towns (since there obviously is a rebel presence in that area) until things become more clearer. And that would be what all of the other editors also agreed to. And than, in a few days, when we both cool down, we revisit the situation to see if any new news has come to light and if they have we make the appropriate changes. Ok? As for Bosra, thank you for providing the SOHR source confirming the shelling, that is all I asked from you, thank you for the source on Bosra! 17:29, 5 March 2014 (UTC)EkoGraf (talk)
then the two villages should be contested at least, because there is no source says the two villages are under total control of the army.17:42, 5 March 2014 (UTC)Amensnober91 (talk)
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