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Crippled vs physically disabled

At Miriam Battista, your first edit to replace "crippled" was reverted by me. Your second edit to remove "crippled" was reverted by another editor. It's time for you to make your case on the talk page. Binksternet (talk) 00:19, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it. I have now responded on the talk page of the article where I have expounded on my reasoning. --Slp1 (talk) 01:15, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

And you've moved into field position for WP:3RRN with your most recent revert, which you know is disputed. Binksternet (talk) 01:24, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

What is a "field position"? I really don't know. What I do know is that I have made 3 edits to the article over a period of 10 days, which doesn't seem to be anywhere close to 3RR; as I mentioned, I have commented on the talkpage.. --Slp1 (talk) 02:59, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

He

I must sheepishly admit that I also thought you were a he until I just looked at your page. Not that it matters, but I wonder why. Maybe your writing style is diff than others here? Not sure it's enough for a PhD, but another data point, at least...--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 16:19, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about my revert

Sorry about this. --Kangaroopowah 21:08, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. But do be careful with those automated tools; they are powerful and can be a bit dangerous if there isn't someone very viligant in control! --Slp1 (talk) 13:23, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Doctor Torrent-Guasp

I am a reader of cardiac theory. Work by Torrent-Guasp captivated me the first time I saw the late doctors' rendering of the unfolding of the myocardium. I have seen a similar view once before in the work of Dr. Carolyn Thomas (possibly from New England), dated somewhere around 1959, connected to work by Peskin and McQueen. Further extrapolation of this work by Dr. Randas Batista allowed radical geometric remodeling of the failing ventricle, mostly in the still deadly epidemic of Chagas Disease. Work by Torrent-Guasp seems to be well reasoned and accepted in Spanish language Misplaced Pages but remains excluded by English Misplaced Pages. I respectfully request an explanation for this discrepancy.lbeben 01:33, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for coming here for discussion. This is the sort of place to discuss things, not by creating an article as you did before. A few points:

• For edits here, it is irrelevant what Spanish Misplaced Pages has done. The two encyclopedias have different rules and organizations, and so it really isn't worth mentioning here.
• For there to be an article about Dr. Torrent-Guasp he would have to meet WP's notability criteria. These include WP:BIO "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject.", and/or academics WP:PROF. "Many .."academics" ... are notably influential in the world of ideas without their biographies being the subject of secondary sources. Having published does not, in itself, make an academic notable, no matter how many publications there are. Notability depends on the impact the work has had on the field of study." It goes on to list the criteria (such as making a "significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources" or "received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level." I have done a quick look through the sources and do not myself find evidence that Dr. T-G would meet these or other criteria. However, you may be able to identify extra sources. You can gather the material and present it at WP:AFC, as I suggested.
• It seems based on your talkpage that you wish to include information about Dr. Torrent-Guasp's theories in other (medical) articles. Please note that on this WP we have very strict standards of sources for medically-related articles (see. WP:MEDRS. From a brief survey, Dr. T-G's theories are not (yet) accepted in the medical community, though reliable sources consider them interesting and some discuss them at length. e.g. . These are the sort of sources (or better still scholarly medical review articles) you need if you want to propose edits to other articles.

I hope that this information helps. Note that this isn't the place to advocate for T-G's theories, even if you think that they are very interesting yourself. Collecting reliable sources about a particular topic and then summarizing them are what we do here.

A final comment. Please sign your posts with four tildes ~~~~. This will properly sign and date your posts for you automatically. Slp1 (talk) 12:43, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Is the theory advanced by Dr. Francisco Torrent-Guasp worthy of encyclopedic mention in any and all languages?--lbeben 01:04, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

I really don't know. I don't know the field and I am afraid have other priorities at present. Why don't you collect references (and links) to high quality academic sources that mention the theory, and propose something on the talkpage of relevant articles.

As I mentioned above please sign your posts properly per WP:SIGNATURE. Your current method does not allow editors to link to your user and talkpage. Thank you. Slp1 (talk) 20:31, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Your recent speedy deletion of Sarah Luiz

I recently stubbed the article to remove unsourced material, and added two WP:RS that clearly assert the subject's notability. Please consider restoration of this article. Thank you. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:09, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for coming here and asking about this. I appreciate it. I looked at the references you found before I deleted the article; they support that she wants a uterine transplant and that she sued Blue Cross, but why is that notable? How many other individuals want uterine transplants (lots according to the clinical ethics article); how many others have sued Blue Cross for one reason of the other and got their 5 minutes of fame about it? Do we need articles on all of them? This sort of thing doesn't make a person in any way notable to the extent that we need a biographical article, per WP:BASIC and WP:BLP1E. If there is a fuller article to write, with more reliable sources/references and more details about her life, please go ahead and write it; but remember that the article has already been a magnet for BLP violations and consider whether it will really be a benefit for her or for this encyclopedia to host it. --Slp1 (talk) 02:38, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

The issues you describe should be considered at AFD. When it takes a full paragraph to explain why an article was deleted under CSD A7, speedy deletion was probably inappropriate. Since my stubbed version of the article was not an obvious BLP violation, please restore the article so that this issue can be discussed by the community. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 22:37, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

No, it needn't take a full paragraph to explain the issue, but I gave you that courtesy. I guess my effort was wasted. The short version is in the deletion summary, which you have already seen. There was no claim of notability and there are in addition issues of BLP1E --Slp1 (talk) 23:03, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I have opened a deletion review discussion about this article. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 23:11, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

William Wilberforce

Hi Slp1 – I'm a bit concerned about the message that has recently appeared at the head of the article, regarding the fact that someone claims to have "detected that this page contains external links that are either on the spam blacklist or the global spam blacklist", having been flagged up by Cyberbot II – I'm not really sure what to do about it.

The obvious thing is to delete the offending link, but I'm damned if I can find it, and I don't want to have to spend hours looking for it. The message at the head of the source code indicates it as <http://books.google.com/?id=VMF_-aVJSE4C&pg=PA178&dq=British+anti-slavery+petitions+percentage%7Cbot=Cyberbot II}> which does not appear to exist anywhere in the text (unless I've stupidly overlooked it). Presumably there has got to be an easier way of finding exactly what this bot is objecting to and correcting it? Any ideas?

I'm far from happy that this has happened, and it reinforces the impression I have recently gained that Misplaced Pages these days is edited by powerful technicians and/or administrators who have developed what they believe to be useful robot technology (albeit probably well-meaning), but which ends up just making life difficult and unbearable for lowly contributors, who just want to make an encyclopedia, but end up gettting sick of the interminable changes and disillusioned with the whole futile process.

I'd be interested to hear your views on this.

Cheers – Bruce Agendum (talk) 22:45, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bruce. Nice to hear from you. I hear the weather in the UK has been lovely, after a rather dismal start to the summer. I hope you have been able to enjoy it.

Thanks for drawing my attention to this- I totally missed it. It seems that this bot doesn't like the word "petitions" and so tagged that book reference because it had the word in the google search string. I think the original idea was to ban spamming of petitions in support of this or that, but it shouldn't be tagging this sort of stuff.. The ref was there- not sure why you didn't find it. I removed the search string and that should be the end of our problems.

I have to agree these automated things can be very frustrating, though I guess we do benefit too. The bots who revert vandalism work very well on this article!! It looks like we were a bit unlucky in that the bot was being let loose on a limited trial to see if it behaved well, and poor William was one of the test subjects. If you look at my contribution history you'll see that I have also reported the problems to the powers that be. You could share your opinions there too, if you want. In any case, hopefully the problems will be fixed soon. Keep well, Bruce!! Slp1 (talk) 02:07, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Slp1. Thanks your message, and for sorting this out. I’ve been away for a few days, aware of your efforts and your message – but without time or opportunity to respond. I’ve no idea why I couldn’t find the reference – apart from the fact it was late in the evening and I was tired and annoyed (perhaps you guessed!) I take your point that this was a limited trial and have followed your correspondence with CyberPower and am aware of the issues. It may be best if I don’t now add my voice to the conversation, as you seem to have conveyed the problems more than adequately. Yes, the weather has been fantastic this summer, after so many poor years – it’s about time, as I had been thinking of emigrating! So, I have indeed taken full advantage of it. I hope you are well, and good luck to you, too. Cheers – Bruce Agendum (talk) 14:27, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

That all sounds very good. Yes, I am well, thanks for asking!! Have a great week, Bruce.Slp1 (talk) 21:22, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

IRC?

Can you meet me on IRC?—cyberpower _Offline 19:27, 29 August 2013 (UTC) Meet me at #xlabs —cyberpower _Offline 19:33, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

I am afraid I am technically incompetent in many areas, and don't have any idea how to get to IRC. And no real desire to learn either!! Sorry. --Slp1 (talk) 20:32, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

After having some time to think, I have decided to restyle the tag to be smaller. The regex generator has been fixed, and the next bot run will test to see if tags will be removed. Thanks for your comments. Cheers.—cyberpower _Online 23:48, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me and in advance for reworking the template. Just to point out that making it smaller is just one of the suggestions made, and it would be good to address those too. In any case, good luck with your bot. Slp1 (talk) 13:14, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

What were the other suggestions?—cyberpower _Offline 13:21, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi again. What I am about to say is made in the utmost good faith and in a genuine effort to help you. It is partly informed also by my off-wiki professional life. Please don't be offended. It is not my intent. I have noticed that sometimes it seems like it isn't always easy for you to pick out the key information (includes messages which aren't always explicit) in people's written posts. Maybe I am wrong, but it seems that this may be one of those times. Rather than me just give you the list of what suggestions I think were made, why don't you read through Misplaced Pages:Bots/Requests for approval/Cyberbot II 4 and Template talk:Spam-links and make a list of the suggestions for the template that you see? I'll do the same. Then we can compare notes. It might be instructive. Slp1 (talk) 13:48, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

I'll admit that it a problem. I am autistic, so picking out information that isn't clear will never succeed on my end. All I see that it is quite bulky and that it should be compressed with a details link.—cyberpower _Online 16:38, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay well that makes sense. Thanks for letting me know. But don't say it will never succeed because that's pretty defeatist!! Figuring out strategies to cope with the problem is going to pay enormous dividends for you in terms of interactions with others, and being successful in all sorts of areas. What if I narrow it down for you? These posts all contain suggestions for the template's improvement that go beyond size and a details button. Do you see them now? I see 5 other suggestions to consider in these Slp1 (talk) 20:19, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

I see, big and bulky needs to be fixed, rename the template, and figure out why syntax isn't working, which may not be fixable from here since I see nothing wrong with the syntax itself.—cyberpower _Online 14:51, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, yes those are some. Here's what I see in those links.:

• Reduce size (you got that one)
• Change its position: One of the commentator says "They should have a more decent and reasonable size and position" - This also mentioned on your talkpage.
• Move the template such as 'blacklisted-links'. (you got that one)
• Terminology used on template: I said "it talks about "spam links" which is not the case and uses the term "external links" in a way that is not consistent with WP's definition at external links.
• List of links not always given. "the list of "problematic links" was not shown, which meant we had to dig to try and figure out what the (non)problem was." -I think this is the syntax problem you mentioned.
• Add that the bot may make errors and give a place to report them. I said "given the fact that the bot is in a trial stage and is making mistakes, it seems to me that it would be better to provide information about where to report errors in tagging, rather than the current formulation which suggest that the bot can do no wrong, that the article and its editors (or the blacklist) are at fault, and that they need to figure out the problem and act on it or the bot will be back."

Last piece of free advice: identifying this kind of information and detail from the communication of others is a very important skill to learn: it will help you in all areas of life if you can learn some strategies to help you process things more efficiently. You might want talk to somebody at your college about getting some information and help about this. Slp1 (talk) 21:19, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I've modified the template. Any thoughts? I know I still have to rename it, but it shouldn't be intrusive anymore.—cyberpower _Offline 03:13, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Other than syntax, I think I did everything.—cyberpower _Online 14:34, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

I've been off-wiki for a while. Sadly, it looks likes your bot still needs some follow-up and fixes. I'll try to get to it soon. Slp1 (talk) 00:56, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Proposal for closures

Hi Slp1, I regarded the proposals for closure on the horrible RfC as a suggestion of consensus finding. In that light, I actually quite liked them, as preliminary ways to describe consensus. A closing admin could than form his own closing statement and rationale, and could cherrypick and shape their closure based on the earlier proposals. I agree with you that none of them should be taken as is, but as a tool for getting a feel for the consensus, I do think their valuable. That said, by now, they have served their purpose, so keeping them closed is likely the best for now. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:03, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. I agree with them all. The proposals were based on a good faith effort to find common ground, and contain wisdom too, which should be useful for a closing administrator. However, my concern was less with the content (though obviously some of it was deeply problematic) and more with the process, which has ended up becoming more of the same unhelpful polarization and battleground behaviours. Once you reach that point, conversation is more trouble than it is worth. --Slp1 (talk) 16:12, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, we agree in our agreement :D I was commenting on it because I felt it (probably not intentionally) can send the signal out to not break your pretty little editor heads on finding consensus, leave that to the admins, which (I'm sure we also agree on) is not the signal we want to send across. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:35, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a good point. I certainly wasn't trying to give that impression. I'll tweak the close statement to make it clearer. Slp1 (talk) 19:53, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Quarter Million Award

The Million Award is a new initiative to recognize the editors of Misplaced Pages's most-read content; you can read more about the award and its possible tiers (Quarter Million Award, Half Million Award, and Million Award) at Misplaced Pages:Million Award. You're also welcome to display this userbox:

If I've made any error in this listing, please don't hesitate to correct it; if for any reason you don't feel you deserve it, please don't hesitate to remove it; if you know of any other editor who merits one of these awards, please don't hesitate to give it; if you yourself deserve another award from any of the three tiers, please don't hesitate to take it! Cheers, -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:00, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

That's cool! Thanks. Slp1 (talk) 00:56, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Echolalia

Hey, there ! I am getting a bit more settled :) :) Would you have time to look at Talk:Echolalia#Removed? Some version of this "delayed vs. immediate" continues to pop up in this article, and I suspect it is always from the same course. There is text that could be added there, but they never seem to get it right, and I don't have time to rewrite it correctly (nor the inclination, considering the overemphasis on a few marginal sources and one minor aspect of echolalia). Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:08, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Sorry! I've been having a busy time in real life, but will certainly take a look as soon as I can. Slp1 (talk) 00:56, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

William Wilberforce portrait by Hayter

Hi Slp1 – Going back to our correspondence two years ago regarding the identity of the sitter of the painting by Hayter, I have contacted the Public Catalogue Foundation with my doubts and referred them to my correspondence with the Curator of the Ferens Gallery and the William Wilberforce House, Hull. If you remember, they tended to be sympathetic with my concerns about the painting, and said that further investigations would be made as to the sitter's identity. The Public Catalogue Foundation has digitised the entire UK national collection of oil paintings and are partners with the BBC on the Your Paintings initiative (see http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/william-wilberforce-17591833-78598 ). We may now get some information as to the progress of the gallery's enquiries. Cheers – Bruce Agendum (talk) 20:25, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bruce! Happy Thanksgiving, Canadian-style! I'll be fascinated to see how this works out. Please do let me know. Slp1 (talk) 00:56, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Opting in to VisualEditor

As you may know, VisualEditor ("Edit ") is currently available on the English Misplaced Pages only for registered editors who choose to enable it. Since you have made 50 or more edits with VisualEditor this year, I want to make sure that you know that you can enable VisualEditor (if you haven't already done so) by going to your preferences and choosing the item, "MediaWiki:Visualeditor-preference-enable". This will give you the option of using VisualEditor on articles and userpages when you want to, and give you the opportunity to spot changes in the interface and suggest improvements. We value your feedback, whether positive or negative, about using VisualEditor, at Misplaced Pages:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:25, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

I did find it good for some things, and terrible for many others. I think it has potential, so will probably reactivate it and see if has improved... I am sure it has!Slp1 (talk) 00:56, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

It's definitely still a work in progress, so if you run across problems, please feel free to post a note for me or one of the other people at WP:VEF. You can also sign up for the WP:VisualEditor/Newsletter (one note every few weeks) if you want to hear about what the devs are working on. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:49, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

WP:OUTING

I'm not going to lodge a complaint against you about this, because frankly, sanctions are over-used. But that account is retired for good reason, and I'd ask you to respect the policy. Thank you.98.222.60.232 (talk) 00:17, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Please go ahead with your complaint if you really think I was outing you. I think you'll find little support for your position. Here's my advice for what it is worth: if you want to retire, then simply retire. If you want to retire don't reappear as an IP to refight battles with an administrator you have previously been in conflict with, most especially when your complaints have already been judged to be without value.e.g. (see WP:CLEANSTART) If you ignore this and do post as an IP, then don't be surprised if people make the connection, especially when you state that you are a retired editor and actually link to the AN discussion that you began and that led you to retire!!!!. For goodness sake, you linked to it yourself- there's absolutely no outing here.. But maybe you want to consider WP:VANISH? But know that from there there is absolutely no coming back.--Slp1 (talk) 00:45, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

As I said, I'm not going to complain. As you note, there is plenty of room for doubt. But what's with the suggestion to vanish. Does celebration of diversity include diversity of thought?98.222.60.232 (talk) 01:00, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

But you came here to complain, didn't you? It might have been a good idea to consider the "room for doubt" before making the accusation of outing here. But no worries, since I appreciate your semi-retraction.

There's plenty of room for diversity here, including for diversity of thought. My suggestion about WP:VANISH was related to your comment that you retired your account for a good reason. I think you have previously edited under your real name, and I thought the "good reason" you alluded to might be that you would like to separate your editing here from your real identity. If that is the case, then WP:VANISH might be the way to go. But maybe I am wrong about this.

You want to continue editing WP but not under the old account then you need to read WP:CLEANSTART for advice. Basically, if you do come back with a different account or as an IP you are strongly advised to leave old areas of conflict behind - that would include obviously the men's rights articles and Bbb23 etc. If you don't, it is very likely you will be recognized, just as you were at the AN discussion. Addendum: I just realized that per the "Contentious and scrutinized topics" section, you must avoid the men's rights topic area entirely if are attempting a clean start.

If you want to continue editing WP and want to pursue editing in those areas where you have been in conflict, including men's rights etc then you need to resume editing under your old account, asking for a name change if you wish. WP:RENAME Slp1 (talk) 01:18, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks. About "partial retraction". I didn't intend to say that you violated the policy. But my note was poorly written, and I can see where you thought I was saying that. For that much I'll apologize fully. At the same time, I've realized that being a conservative attracts a lot of vitriol, and it's better not to use my real name, sadly, so please don't jump to connect me.98.222.60.232 (talk) 03:54, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the apology: I really appreciate and accept it.

As far as the other matter is concerned, I do understand your problem. The solution is really in your hands, in that you need to pick one of the above options. You are not allowed to pop up as an IP or as another user in the men's rights area or to refight old battles, but if you ignore this, you do run the risk that your real name will get mentioned again and perhaps other issues related to evading scrutiny. Slp1 (talk) 23:45, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Mens Rights Movement discussion on Noticeboard

It took me several days to, with help, to find out how to search the noticeboard so I just now found https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive255#Talk:Men.27s_rights_movement.2FArticle_probation including your comment.

• Regarding your comment about "here to promove a website" on the noticeboard, that is incorrect, my detailed response is on the Talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Men%27s_rights_movement#User:MilesMoney in the second paragraph (by the way do I need to use this @Slp1: to make sure you are notified?) in short is:

to be clear that I am not "promoting a website" one comment and example. First, one should not confuse the website with specific images. I mean you might have your User page mention that you're a cyclist and you plan to upload images from your cycling trip, does that mean you're here to promote your website, or cycling club, or logos? Of course not... But maybe you feel there are not enough photos in the public domain of, I don't know, of some national park, fine, you upload those and put them in the public domain. Are you here to promote your bike club or its website just because you want to put some images in the public domain? Of course not...Even if you also edit articles on cycling. Now, in this cade..I was referring to specific images. As I pointed out, people upload images, for example, a picture of the White House, and they then put it in the Public Domain. They are not promoting their tourist group, theya re uploading an image of the white house or of something else. If no one wants to use it (this often happens) that's fine, if someone wants to use it in a wikipedia article, that's great. That is all I said or mean about my intention to upload a few images. And this has nothing to do with the edit of the aritcle, so having this out of the way, we can return to addressing the article

The reason I know of this is, having searched for images online I would from time to time find images on wikipedia.org or commons.wikimedia.org or others, and then it would list pages that use that image, sometimes it would be blank, somestimes one or many pages would use an image. There would usually be a note about putting the image in the public domain. Sometimes it would be one image, sometimes a few, and sometimes a large collection or photos, or, a large collection or png or gif graphics, created with some software that uses commands to draw lines etc. So I intend to upload maybe a handful of images and to put them into the public domain. As noted, this is not only not a no-no, it's part of what user accounts on wikipedia are for. Yes, it's not the same as the commons, but still relevant, still done, still useful, and still encouraged when useful. Now that I have an account and still working on finishing getting images ready, I made a few edits to improve articles, and may do so aain in the future if things don't get too discouraging.

The fellow with the IP address was correct by the way, one this point, that the editor or administrator, along with other comments, did specifically also comment a sarcastic (they later clarified it was "sarcastic") about the user name "maleliberation". So putting aside their comments on other things, they did specifically choose to comment on my user name, and sarcastically call it "lovely" which is not a good idea. Even if the admin is correct (in this case they are quite incorrect) about the user name, it's not a good thing to do. I mean even things we all (or almost all) agree are bad, evil, for example a user name ProFascism should not be commented about sarcastically, for general reasons of editors not having the appearance of bias against the user, and for practical ones of not fostering an antagonistic atmosphere (it may encourage that user or others to criticize the admin etc). In this case the admin was also quite incorrect in their assumptions, despite the User page explaining my being pro human rights for and liberation for both genders (with apologies to those who critique the notion of there being only two genders, this is a simplification I'm making to be more brief while focusing on other issues) but as noted that's secondary, admins should avoid such sarcasm even against those they correctly see as standing for something they strongly oppose. There is also a practical reason. If Bbb23 does this, anti-WL (anti rights for women) people may use that on their part to attack them or attack WL, which Bbb23 might think would make me happy, thining I'm anti-WL just because I'm pro-ML, but I'm not, so it would make me sad to see WL hurt due to attacks on actions by Bbb23 where Bbb23 shows an anti ML bias.

In my note on the Talk page I also point out I did not call him "profeminist" and I clarify the difference between my own views (we all have views, mine include protion of cooperation and mutual respect among ML and WL not just to be "nice" but because, in not all but in many areas, doing so actually promotes a more successful effort for your side, too bad so few see this) versus, asking that actual historical facts that are central, epecially central to a section on Relation to Feminism, be included. There is probably some fancy command or code I don't know to give you the links but the entire url is: https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Men%27s_rights_movement#User:MilesMoney It also addresses that in at least one case, the edit was not creating, but actually fixing an unsourced/unverifiable statement. Maleliberation (talk) 21:02, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

I've read all this, but please, please, Maleliberation, try to write in a more succinct fashion: you'll find that many people won't have the patience to wade through it all.

What I get from this is that you understand that you must not use WP to promote your agenda; but what I also get is that you have a clear agenda, and that it is pretty hard for you not to promote those ideas through your proposed website, the graphics and even your arguments here. That's totally understandable: I admire people who put energy into their convictions. It's just that being an advocate for a cause, whether it is feminism, men's rights, fascism, communism, or in your case "being pro human rights for and liberation for both genders" is liable to result in an editor being unable to edit neutrally, which is a requirement here. The fact that you are a new editor, with a name that promotes your website (violating WP:SPAMNAME) and only edit on this topic rings massive warning bells too. I strongly suggest that you reconsider your approach and goal here, as I can see things ending badly. Maybe you should begin by editing some other pages and topics to get a better feel for the place.Slp1 (talk) 21:20, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

I just found your reply from two days ago Slp1. I edited a bit here and there without a user account way back in 2005 and 2006 I think it was so I'm not completely unfamiliar with wikipedia, but not an expert, and not sure if watchlist is the only way to find replies like yours more quickly or if there are other ways. I would suggest that "agenda" is a loaded term but if you want to use it, every human being has values, has beliefs, and if you wish, has an agenda. Being "pro-human rights" does not make it any harder for me to be neutral than any other editor (almost all of whom will at least claim to be pro human rights") and while liberating both genders is not as familiar as the more general notion of liberation, if you ask 100 editors if they are for or against people being liberated, the majority will also have that "agenda" too ;) In either case, our pro-human rights views do not prevent us from editing an article about human rights in Russia for example, or elsewhere. I agree we should be careful...but that really means all of us, all editors, to do their best to be careful, and to cite sources as needed.

Some of us naturally take more words to express ourselve and we do our best. As you can see from this note, I can be more brief when I sense someone is listening and elsewhere when the opposite words from what I said were put in my mouth, I took longer, or, suggesting admins should not express publicly their strong personal distaste for someone's user name. As I've clarified elsehwere, there is not "company, group, institution or product" that even exists or is planned for existence so there is no WP:SPAMNAME or WP:GROUPNAME violation as that clause requires that " a company, group, institution or product (e.g. AlexTownWidgets, MyWidgetsUSA.com, TrammelMuseumofArt)" be "unambiguously" referred to, a fortiori, is requires that "company, group, institution or product" exist, and none such exist. In fact none will exist, since there aren't even plans. My interests have grown in some areas and that's reflected in blog names and wikipedia names, just as ILoveCleanAir might be a user name on wikipedia by someone who cares about clean air, and also they might even have a blog/website, that is not a company or group, just their personal blog, but that uses the same phrase that they like when they think about their interest.

I agree with you that I will gain more experience, even having been on wikipedia ages ago, by looking at other pages, and I will, and I might edit there a bit, but maybe not, or maybe only a little bit elsewhere.. After all, it is natural for me to edit in those areas I know more about, and those tend to overlap for most human beings, with those areas we are interested in, so MRM and related pages. I'm not eager to spend a huge amount of time since facts (not opinion but referenced facts) but facts informed by a non-antifeminist, pro-womensrights but pro-mens-rights background, seem to be shot down or not capable of being heard, so I might take a break and come back rather than give up on it, but I'll try to make edit suggestions now and then. Probably not many. But for now just insist that there not be a misunderstanding that the personal interests of mine (which is not suprrising is the inspiration people use for both their wikipedia names, and for their private personal blog websites) are not a company, group, institution, or a product. Thanks. Maleliberation (talk) 00:11, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Agraphia

Oh dear, that is quite a wall of text above ! Student edits dropped in to Agraphia, I did some cleanup, but it's nonsensical to me. Also, it looks like there may be two different classes working on the article, but since never respond, hard to know. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:36, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi Sandy. Sorry very busy in my real life, but I will give it a look. I do hate cleaning up after others, though, so I share your pain. It is so much easier just to research and write the stuff one's self.--Slp1 (talk) 21:58, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Message from user page/

Consider work by Adolph Fick in Cardiac Output as the foundation of Ejection Fraction.lbeben 05:01, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Possible nomination of article for review

Hello Slp1; Your user page mentioned that you had experience in health care and perhaps might have an interest in doing a review for a Featured Article among the health care articles? Any possible interest? BillMoyers (talk) 23:22, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

You're invited: Art & Feminism Edit-a-thon

Good work

Regarding this, if it helps, I think you're a good writer and always have been. - Dank (push to talk) 15:56, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

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