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Mithra-texts

As per the books of Gavin Flood and Anthony, there's much to write about Mithra-texts and their relevance with the same theories, Pydisc has talked about. I hope you have also read about it, when we are going to expand that particular section of Hinduism? Bladesmulti (talk) 16:51, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Ehm... please refrsh my mind; could you be more precise? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 16:55, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

You mean this Indigenous Aryans nonsense from Frawley and the like? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:16, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

These-- there's a lot of material for inclusion. Bladesmulti (talk) 19:21, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Ah, you mean Mitanni! Funny, Kautilya3 also mentioned Mitanni a few days ago. See Indo-Aryan migration hypothesis, and the split between Iranians and Aryans, and between the Mitanni-people and the Vedic people. Yeas, worthy of inclusion; let me ponder it over for a few days. Thanks, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 20:02, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Parsi

JJ, yesterday I was looking at various responses to several different comments I placed on the talk page of the article on Parsi quite a while ago about unclear sentences. I even replied to one of them at Talk:Parsi#Prominent Parsis (Vyarawalla). I thought IP editor 77's comments showed that this editor was fairly knowledgeable and was for the most part a courteous editor (but see the last paragraph in his/her reply to Bladesmulti at Talk:Parsi#Title change), so I welcomed him/her on his/her talk page and encouraged him/her to register an account and to be courteous. Today, I saw a reply to the comment I left yesterday at Talk:Parsi#Prominent Parsis (Vyarawalla). I am a little puzzled by two things: 1) the editor seems to have misunderstood my comment, and the tone seems less courteous than in the other comments, and 2) even though it says "I" said, the IP address is different. Do you think IP 77 is simply replying from a different computer? Is that normally acceptable on WP? Also, was I wrong in what I said? CorinneSD (talk) 16:53, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Corinne. As for the IP-adress: that's one of the reasons why Misplaced Pages promotes the use of user-accounts, so it's clear who's who. As fort he tone: I'll have to read it through. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 16:58, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

IP's internet is probably dynamic. Bladesmulti (talk) 17:01, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Forgive my ignorance, Blades, but what does that mean? CorinneSD (talk) 17:03, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Each time he's going on (at?) the internet, he receives another IP from his provider. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 17:07, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Corinne, he has in fact a dynamic (changing) IP address. You can check that by clicking geolocate on the user contribution page. JimRenge (talk) 17:37, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Why would someone have a dynamic IP address? Have you reviewed the exchanges and comments? You haven't yet answered the questions in my comment, above. CorinneSD (talk) 18:13, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm going to read it now. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:10, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

It sounds like an experienced editor, who's been in some wiki-fights before. What's triggered them might be this line: "If you have done a search and have found no reliable source, you could suggest". It probably works the other way round: if there is no source/reference provided, the line might as wellbe removed. I guess they read it as "hey, you've got to prove she's not notable, otherwise, stay away!". That's not what you meant, but I guess it's what they read.

Does this help? It makes me curious, anyway, who this is, and how experinced they are. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:56, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh. All right. Thanks. CorinneSD (talk) 22:00, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

I would also like to have an answer on these moving IPs. Why can anyone use them on Wiki? It is actually trolling. Hafspajen (talk) 07:43, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages does not require editors to open an account and it is sometimes (if they are not editing disruptively) permitted to use multiple accounts or multiple IPs. Improper use of multiple IPs include attempts to deceive or mislead other editors, disrupt discussions, distort consensus and avoid sanctions (WP:Sock, WP:SOSP).

As far as I know, attempts to change this policy/consensus have not been successful because a majority argues that it is most important to assume good faith and make it easy to participate. They believe that the mechanisms against IP sock puppetry are working sufficiently.

Why would someone have a dynamic IP address? Most people choose an Internet service provider because he offers a good price. Some ISPs provide dynamic IPs and it is possible that your own IP is a dynamic one (I assume my IP is dynamic, I did not choose it). JimRenge (talk) 16:07, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

yeah. Hafspajen (talk) 16:10, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

addition

Can I ask why you decided to change the article all of a sudden despite there was no consensus reached? - 94.210.203.230 (talk) 17:51, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, you can (sorry, "Groninger humor"). Because Oxford University Press is a reliable publisher. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:09, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

JJ, just ignore the long term abuser and see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Beh-nam/Archive. I have informed the admin, 94 is probably going to get blocked soon. Bladesmulti (talk) 19:15, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	The Teamwork Barnstar is awarded when several editors work together to improve an article. Thanks for your edits! Hafspajen (talk) 07:44, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Wow, great! Ehm... which article? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 07:48, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

• Ah, uh, this and that, all. Hafspajen (talk) 14:40, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Ah, that's nice. Thank you! It's a pleasure. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 18:47, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Mentorship

Hi Joshua,

new user to wikipedia. please help mentor the writings of course will be lot of effort Protocol108 (talk) 08:40, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

I say yes, of course, but with hesitation: it takes effort, and it costs time. At the other hand, it also creates good "things", so, yes: User:Protocol108/mentorship. best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:33, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

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• I don't like the way you do your citations...
• That sentence, you need to reword it. It's too near original'.

Brilliant! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:43, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Wise man

Hafspajen (talk) 02:11, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

1. {{cite web}}: Empty citation (help)

Meditating, or waiting for some miracle to happen? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:42, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

WEll, that's difficult to know. Those are very personal things... like an empty citation - it can be all kids of things when filled.. Hafspajen (talk) 11:38, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

• pst. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! ... Hafspajen (talk) 14:09, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

I'd love to. Where's the coach? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:11, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

And now? ? Hafspajen (talk) 19:17, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

ANI

ANI seems to be inevitable but I guess it will be very difficult (no one wants to read these walls of text) and go to ARBCOM some day. Please take your time to prepare the arguments. What might be a useful result of ANI: a last warning with defined sanctions in case he does not stop, a quantitative limit for his talk page edits, a block or a topic ban?? JimRenge (talk) 14:45, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Who we are referring to? Bladesmulti (talk) 14:49, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Robertinventor. See: Talk:Dzogchen, Talk:Karma in Buddhism, Talk:Four Noble Truths, User talk:Robertinventor, User talk:Dorje108, Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Buddhism. He is clearly entitled to voice his critique, however the amount of repetition is unbearable! JimRenge (talk) 14:58, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Then ANI. He still abuses the talk(page) of Karma and later on he started abusing other talk(pages) because he believes that it is alright(as long as no action was taken). It should be addressed on ANI and first post must include relevant diffs. Bladesmulti (talk) 15:25, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks so far. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 18:02, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

I've filed an ANI-complaint at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive talkpage behaviour. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:11, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

I understand that ANI deals exclusively with problematic behavior, not with content disputes. Can you explain why you have added this collapsed summary of the dispute? It might be perceived as a wall of superfluous text.

I will try to collect diffs of hints and warnings regarding his (mis)use of talk pages and add these in my comment at ANI. JimRenge (talk) 19:47, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

I did so, to explain that this has been going on for a while, and that I tried my best to explain my edits to him, without avail.

Can you provide evidence/diffs of his disruptive talk page behavior? JimRenge (talk) 20:43, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

I'd think that even a short look at those talkpages suffices... Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 21:17, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for staying on top of the Mandukya Upanishad article

Thanks for staying on top of the Mandukya Upanishad article.VictoriaGrayson 19:31, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Bengali Kayastha - Your recent edit

Honestly speaking, you played a major role during the development phase of this article on Bengali Kayastha. Please let me know your concerns as far as the last edit is concerned. Richard M. Eaton is not only reliable, the statement is also specific and relevant to say the least; and we have no reason to pick only Wink's statement. Also, Sekhar Bandyopadhyay's statement, as interpreted and attributed to him, is not acceptable, and that's the reason I have tried to improve and align it with the source. If you have any objection or further suggestion for improvement, I will be glad to hear from you (here or on the article's talk page). Best Regards, Ekdalian (talk) 05:14, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

You've restated some essentials sentences is a way that supports your view of the Bengali Kayastha, as before. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:16, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Landscape

Hello, Joshua. User:Bladesmulti, also. A few of us have been discussing a re-working of the article Landscape. See Talk:Landscape#Discussion from my talk. One, User:Zaereth, has begun the trimming that was discussed, which I applaud. I'm wondering whether you would like to write a section or two such as "Landscape in (or and) philosophy" or "Landscape in (or and) dreams". If you have any other ideas for creating a better article, please feel free to add them to the discussion. CorinneSD (talk) 00:49, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm afraid I know to little about this topic. The two things that do come to my mind are "artificial" landscapes, such as gardens; and this painting of "the wanderer", standing at a cliff looking out over a mountainside landscape. Somehow related to artificial landscapes; the wish to escape from modernity's grip on the surroundings. So, if I think further: the popularity of meditation may be related: also a means to escape. Just like holiday-travels.

Oh, I just read that the term comes from the Dutch "landschap". No wonder, maybe; we Dutch live in a highy "artificial" landscape. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:13, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

O.K. CorinneSD (talk) 20:39, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

HAve I ever said that my profession is Landscape architect-?Hafspajen (talk) 20:44, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes. I left a message for you and Sminth on Sminth's talk page. CorinneSD (talk) 20:46, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Woof. Not got that. Hafspajen (talk) 20:50, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Discussions

Thanks for the writing the recent message on my user talk(page). I am thinking to remove the unnecessary argument from there and alter your comment a bit so that HistoryofIran can be encouraged to discuss his changes. Bladesmulti (talk) 06:06, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Go ahead. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:07, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Robert Walker

As I have mentioned, I had no real interest in the dispute over Buddhist topics. I'm not a Buddhist; I'm a Roman Catholic Christian. My interest in Buddhism is only that I think it has excellent ethical teachings that are similar to Christian ethical teachings. I didn't want to be dragged into Robert Walker's complaints about content. The issue seems to have to do with what sources should be relied on to what extent, and I am not qualified to assess that. His complaint seemed to be that you and Victoria Grayson had made extensive edits, and he didn't like them, and he wanted to know whether making extensive edits to a previously stable article was a conduct issue. I said that the only conduct issue was his ranting. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:51, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

You seem to be a reasonable editor, which may mean that you may be applying Buddhist ethics of compassion, non-violence, mutual respect, and respect for truth to your editing. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:51, 6 January 2015 (UTC)