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clarification?
What other websites are appropriate for questions about TV or my Questions about Reading the Synopsis?(50.173.3.170 (talk) 11:30, 10 December 2014 (UTC)).
- Surely, there's some chat forum or discussion group somewhere in the world you can find. There's hundreds of them. --Jayron32 12:56, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
if possible, please give me atleast 5 website addresses?(50.173.3.162 (talk) 17:17, 10 December 2014 (UTC)).
- Try starting at http://www.google.com See where it leads you. --Jayron32 17:20, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Come on, I need more specific details than google. I'm already suspended from . What other websites accept any Kind of Questions for svu episodes, Please?(50.173.3.170 (talk) 11:19, 12 December 2014 (UTC)).
- Right, so you've been such a troublemaker, another website kicked you out. I'm not feeling much need to help you there. --Jayron32 15:51, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
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- I took care of it. Haven't changed my sig in something like 4-5 years. I made your coding changes. Hope it helps! --Jayron32 05:30, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 51, 2014)
.jpg) A plate of spaghetti and meatballs.
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i've removed the ref desk talk page thread on whether telling the truth in eastern elections even matters that you kind of moved to the talk page. Feel free to restore it, but do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. μηδείς (talk) 06:19, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
- No, I'm good with that. --Jayron32 11:14, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 52, 2014)
 An aurora is a natural phenomenon.
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This week's article for improvement (week 1, 2015)
 The skyline of Frankfurt, Germany
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This week's article for improvement (week 2, 2015)
 Dishwashing liquid is a detergent used in dishwashing
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Actually, there was an edit conflict, but I did not receive any useful or informative message, and so had no idea your comment was being removed. That happens from time to time with the software. It would be simplest all around for you to restore your message exactly the way you want it... AnonMoos (talk) 00:53, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Humanities Help Desk
Sorry. I had a bit of a brain fart. I said that Bakersfield was the largest city unserved by an interstate, but what I meant Fresno. Population 509,000 and about 50 miles from I-5. Just wanted to clarify. 71.194.214.138 (talk) 02:09, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- Why yes it is. I stand corrected. Well done. --Jayron32 23:33, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 3, 2015)
 The history of Mongolia includes the foundation, expansion, and fragmentation of the Mongol Empire in the 13th century
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This week's article for improvement (week 4, 2015)
 An example of prose, a type of writing that simulates the natural flow of language
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As an uninvolved admin, could you look at Cogolese protests? There's been a lot of work done and seems to be almost if not unanimous support for posting. Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 04:38, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 5, 2015)
 The opening of the Beethoven Symphony No. 5, a famous symphony.
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This week's article for improvement (week 6, 2015)
 Freeze dried coffee, an example of the application of food science
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Ref Desk proposal
Hi Jayron, I don't know if you've been following the recent threads on the ref desk talk page, but based on some review of that material, I have a simple proposal that I'd like your feedback on before I shop it to the whole group. It's very simple: For a trial period (1 month?), we agree to not remove or hat any questions for reasons of seeking medical/legal advice (and perhaps extend to include requests for opinion). Rather than a free-for-all, we first respond with boilerplate or a template, something along the lines of this:
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At that point, we can remove any responses that diagnose, proscribe, treat any illness or legal situation, but allow links to RS. Perhaps even demand that any responses include references, or risk removal. Would that seem ok to you? The thing is, we really don't get that many medical legal questions, and I like how this puts us in the position to police ourselves as respondents, rather than posters. As I see it, this proposal is consistent with our guidelines, and it might forestall some debates, because hopefully the use of a template will warn all our regulars (and irregulars) to be on their best behavior. On the upside, we can then provide useful information, such as links to other people's opinion pieces, links to WP pages that are about medical topics, peer-reviewed literature, etc. So, any thoughts? Would you support such an experiment? Thanks, SemanticMantis (talk) 15:03, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
- I would prefer if we simply left the question intact, added the boilerplate response, and removed ALL subsequent responses, regardless of their nature. The line between information and advice is blurry, and it's a slippery slope from "providing information about a medical condition" which can look a lot like "confirming that a person has the medical condition they think they have". It would be best to leave the question intact, add the boilerplate, and remove any further responses. That's an easier bright-line to enforce rather than trying to police the fuzzy boundary between advice and information. It will not remove all debate, you should be aware. Some people will still see that any question at all that asks for any information about biology in any vague way is "medical advice" and you'll see others that still think we should go ahead and prescribe courses of treatment for any medical condition someone says they have. But I think this idea could have teeth, if we're consistent and set an enforceable bright-line. --Jayron32 15:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. Of course I don't think it would end all debate. But IMO allowing responses after the boilerplate makes placing the boilerplate less contentious. Because in my plan, the whole question isn't shut down, it makes it less problematic if some users think the boilerplate was placed erroneously. But this is food for thought. I've posted similar descriptions to other users as well, I might make a new post on the talk page once I've heard back from them too. SemanticMantis (talk) 16:32, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 7, 2015)
 Empire Field, stadium made with temporary structures, cheaper than permanent.
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 A Sicilian ice cream parlour
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Request protection
The same vandal is at it again, just with a different IP. And yes, I'm aware that he's been blocked from causing trouble yet again, though I request if you can protect my userpage and user talkpage from the same (or different) IP users from causing mischief in the near future? Jon the VGN3rd (talk) 21:58, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
- I've added your user page to my watchlist, if it becomes a problem I'll take action. --Jayron32 22:08, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you. Jon the VGN3rd (talk) 05:13, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
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This week's article for improvement (week 9, 2015)
 Trailer Trash is a US derogatory term for poor people living in trailers or caravans. It appears that these trailer trash happen to live on a trailer park.
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I need to keep my fool mouth shut. You had a point. I did listen. I dont think poorly of you. Ceoil (talk) 13:09, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- Don't be hard on yourself. You'll be fine. --Jayron32 17:15, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- Cheers. Ceoil (talk) 21:42, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
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That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. 64 competitors made it into this round, and are now broken into eight groups of eight. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups. Round 1 saw some interesting work on some very important articles, with the round leader 
Freikorp (submissions) owing most of his 622 points scored to a Featured Article on the 2001 film Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within which qualified for a times-two multiplier. This is a higher score than in previous years, as 
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Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) led round 1 with 601 points in 2013.
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Cwmhiraeth (submissions) took Bumblebee, a level-4 vital article, to Good Article;
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Rodw (submissions) developed an extremely timely article to Good Article, taking Magna Carta there some 800 years after it was first sealed;- And last but not least, Godot13 (submissions) (FP bonus points) worked up a number of Featured Pictures during round 1, including the 1948 one Deutsche Mark (pictured right), receiving the maximum bonus due to the number of Wikis that the related article appears in.
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That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. 64 competitors made it into this round, and are now broken into eight groups of eight. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups. Round 1 saw some interesting work on some very important articles, with the round leader Freikorp (submissions) owing most of his 622 points scored to a Featured Article on the 2001 film Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within which qualified for a times-two multiplier. This is a higher score than in previous years, as Godot13 (submissions) had 500 points in 2014 at the end of round 1, and our very own judge, Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) led round 1 with 601 points in 2013.
In addition to Freikorp's work, some other important articles and pictures were improved during round one, here's a snapshot of a few of them:
- Cwmhiraeth (submissions) took Bumblebee, a level-4 vital article, to Good Article;
- AHeneen (submissions) worked-up the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 article, also to Good Article status;
- Rodw (submissions) developed an extremely timely article to Good Article, taking Magna Carta there some 800 years after it was first sealed;
- And last but not least, Godot13 (submissions) (FP bonus points) worked up a number of Featured Pictures during round 1, including the 1948 one Deutsche Mark (pictured right), receiving the maximum bonus due to the number of Wikis that the related article appears in.
You may also wish to know that The Core Contest is running through the month of March. Head there for further details - they even have actual prizes!
If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Figureskatingfan (talk · contribs · email), Miyagawa (talk · contribs · email) and Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email)
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Teahouse
Hi Jayron, based on this, I take it that the Teahouse is one of the few places at Misplaced Pages where new queries go on top? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:02, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, @Cyphoidbomb: it is. It's been a point of contention for some time, but back when the Teahouse was new, the decision was reached by the powers that be that the Teahouse would be a top-posting board. Those of us who didn't want it that way have conceded (it isn't worth arguing about anymore) but still have our reasons for disagreement. --Jayron32 19:01, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
- Ah! I appreciate the edification and the backstory. :) Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:03, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
About the user who vandalized your page
Hello, Jayron! I don't think we have met; I am a brand-new admin here, and I may need some backup dealing with the user 108.25.60.172 who vandalized your talk page. I came across this while checking all the edits made by that user. They turned out to be a vandalism-only account on an active spree, so I blocked them for 48 hours and reverted the various vandalisms they had been scattering throughout Misplaced Pages. I don't know why they vandalized your page, but I suspect it might have to do with a previous account or user talk page they created, which got repeatedly deleted and finally salted. I don't rememer the name of that talk page, but it was close to one they were now trying to create, No.ob.11.11 or Noob 11 11, something like that. Ring any bells? Anyhow I blocked them for 48 hours; they then proceeded to disruptively edit their talk page so I blocked that too. Unless they get bored in the meantime and go away, I suspect they will come back like gangbusters when their 48 hours is over. So I would appreciate it if you would watchlist them, and take any additional admin action if it turns out to be needed. I am new to blocking so I'm on unfamiliar territory here. Thanks! --MelanieN (talk) 05:45, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- P.S. Ah, here's why: they are 108.25.61.171, the user you blocked here: . They are also 108.11.63.56. I can see I am in way over my head here. 0;-D --MelanieN (talk) 05:56, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- Turned out there were at least five IPs in the same range doing the same vandalism. I found someone to do a range block. So don't worry about this for now, I think it's under control (to the extent possible with IPs). --MelanieN (talk) 18:39, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help! --Jayron32 03:56, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
- Turned out there were at least five IPs in the same range doing the same vandalism. I found someone to do a range block. So don't worry about this for now, I think it's under control (to the extent possible with IPs). --MelanieN (talk) 18:39, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
T.O.o.J.
Nicely put. (And somehow the third person worked well.) —Steve Summit (talk) 20:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Hector Camacho
Hey, Jayron.
You were helpful putting a block on Héctor Camacho due to the edit warring.
I the meantime I have received verifiable information from the woman who was named in the article and who was making the edits. The bottom line is there is a verifiable (although not on line) notice of engagement, a lengthy interview with Salemassi and Camacho's son in Playboy, an article mentioning her at the funeral according to the New York Post viewable in google news, and plenty of photographs of him with her kissing, in those carnival and airport photo-booths together, and at large family gatherings, as well as photos of her grieving with his parents as part of the family. According to Playboy, she was present at Camacho's son's house and took part in the interview, where she provided plenty of evidence against interest that strengthens her story.
Given the documentation she's provided and the strength of the evidence, I added back a mention of her, in a more neutral way, which she accepts. She has also refrained from edit warring while the page has been protected, understands COI, and accepted at one point that we couldn't print her information without documentation, but then provided it in spades. (There seems to have been some miscommunication of how to get such material introduced.)
I am going to refrain from giving the playboy reference at this point, as a reserve in case the edits are challenged, but she seems to have been a "part of the family".
On this basis, I think the indef semi-protect can be lifted. I check the article regularly, and don't foresee any issues at this point.
Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 04:51, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- Will do! Thanks for doing the hard work on this. --Jayron32 00:47, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
IT
Hi there,
Can you please credit me for Mohamed Nasheed ITN? Thanks..-The Herald my strength 14:44, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
- Go ahead, take it. If you deserve the credit, take whatever credit you need. I won't stop you. --Jayron32 20:15, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Just a heads up
Hey Jayron, just wanted to let you know that 68.102.58.146, the IP who you mentioned is dangerously close to being blocked again for creating distant sporting events per WP:TOOSOON, has most likely made a real account (User:Big Steak (talk)). Not sure if you're an admin or not but this message is more of an FYI for someone to keep an eye on. Thanks! Jrcla2 (talk) 03:38, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
- No, I'm good with him creating an account to do this. I've been trying to get him to do so and learn to do this himself. Most of these are (hypothetically) OK articles to create, so long as he doesn't keep trying to make work for others. He has the desire to do so, it's about time he did! It was the incessant "do this for me!!!" stuff that was annoying. Now that he's doing it for himself finally, he's much less of a problem. I will monitor and mentor as needed, though. Thanks for the heads up. --Jayron32 14:37, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
- I gotcha. Well..now he's sockpuppeting. See User:Big Towel. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:03, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
- Let's AGF. This feels like a little kid; maybe he forgot his earlier password, or maybe he decided he didn't like that username. Remember, people are quite allowed to have multiple accounts; so long as they aren't using their multiple accounts for nefarious purposes, there's no problem. Just having two accounts is not a problem. --Jayron32 14:53, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah I understand. I'll AGF him for now and I concur it feels like a 12-year old behind the username. Jrcla2 (talk) 16:13, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
- He changed it again. Now he's User:Big plate. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:17, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- Let's AGF. This feels like a little kid; maybe he forgot his earlier password, or maybe he decided he didn't like that username. Remember, people are quite allowed to have multiple accounts; so long as they aren't using their multiple accounts for nefarious purposes, there's no problem. Just having two accounts is not a problem. --Jayron32 14:53, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
- I gotcha. Well..now he's sockpuppeting. See User:Big Towel. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:03, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Chinua Achebe
I remembered working on his posting two years ago. I was wondering if maybe I had gone mad. μηδείς (talk) 20:55, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Weird that this has already been nominated once today, before your own nom. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:44, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
User:Tim.Fosner
You recently blocked User:Tim.Fosner, but he's talking rubbish at his userpage. Please could you revoke talkpage access? Joseph2302 (talk) 00:26, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- He seems to have gone away on his own. I'm inclined to just let him be. He can't do any harm on that one page, and if he goes off the ropes, I can do it later. --Jayron32 00:48, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
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Areas of Expertise/Interst
Hi Jayron, would you please consider adding some topic headings to your entry at Misplaced Pages:RD_regulars? I know you are quite expert at chemistry and some other areas of science, but there are probably lots of other things I haven't even guessed :) I'm hoping to get participation up, so that it can become a useful resource for all of us. Thanks, SemanticMantis (talk) 14:37, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Category:Al Kapone albums
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Today's articles for improvement
- Hello Jayron32:
- Please consider participating in this week's vote for TAFI's upcoming Week 17 collaboration. Last week's voting did not receive many participants. Thanks for your consideration. North America 15:42, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- I've taken myself off the mailing list; I found I didn't have the time to dedicate to the project I had hoped. Sorry! --Jayron32 16:22, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Un simultaneousness Heyward's of edits
- Heads up , SemanaticMantis had actually made the same point. -Modocc (talk) 01:45, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Irony. --Jayron32 01:59, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Hard Block Needed for User talk:2601:2:1180:315:990F:7D03:BC69:80DB
Making personal attacks toward users on their talk page. - Amaury (talk) 03:32, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Done. --Jayron32 03:34, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Definition
Let's imagine a situation
Article says "The capital city of New Hampshire is Concord" and there is a source to back it up.
IP user comes in and changes it to "The capital city of New Hampshire is Manchester" and the source still says it's Concord. You try to undo it but he reverts and says "read the source". You check the source, nope it's still Concord.
How do you call this situation, and what do you do?--Twofortnights (talk) 16:32, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- I don't respond to hypotheticals. No one has changed the article about the capital city of New Hampshire, so I won't answer this question. Also, I don't respond to assessments of the behavior of other users in a private place like my talk page. If you want your question answered, use WP:ANI and directly cite the diffs that are a problem, as well as any other evidence such as the source in dispute. If you let me know when you start that thread, I will assess and comment there. --Jayron32 16:37, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- So you don't help users who have questions with how Misplaced Pages works? Why is that? I feel like your response is a bit hostile. I just want to know the right course of action. What if it's not a hypothetical at all, I want to go and edit the New Hampshire article as described above so I want to know what kind of reaction will come from you. It's perfectly normal to ask. So it's not assessing behavior of other users in private either, it's assessing my proposed edits. And yes I am asking because in a not so hypothetical situation yesterday one user blatantly added wrong information to one article just like what I've described above and you said it's not vandalism but a content dispute. So I am wondering where is the line between introducing deliberate factual errors and a content dispute? Do I not have a right to know? Because I don't think it's a content dispute when someone deliberately adds wrong information (for fun or whatever the reason) and when it's perfectly obvious. Should we discuss it? With whom? IP address you yourself say belongs to a huge University? I don't see the point but I am open to be convinced with arguments to think otherwise. And discuss what? Would you engage in a discussion over the New Hampshire example above? Of course you wouldn't, let's not be cynical. If that was a content dispute no one would have created these official Template:Uw-error1, Template:Uw-error2, Template:Uw-error3, Template:Uw-error4 warnings, for deliberate introduction of factual errors. It's clear Misplaced Pages differentiates between the two and I am asking where is the line. Too much to ask?
- Misplaced Pages says cynicism is "an attitude or state of mind characterized by a general distrust of others' motives" and I feel like you think I have some ulterior motives. I assure I don't. The only two things I am looking for is for is to remove nonsense from Misplaced Pages and to have a positive helpful attitude from other editors instead of jaded negativity. Thanks.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:16, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- if you want help, post a thread at ANI, post diffs of the edits you feel are questionable, let me know, and I will comment. What I am not going to do is make a decision about what is or isn't appropriate if I don't have all the facts.--Jayron32 23:46, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Heads up
Just to let you know, in response to your comment here, you don't even need to be autoconfirmed - WP:ACTRIAL never went through. Mdann52 (talk) 16:15, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
a user who may need a friend
hello Mr. Jay (if i may call you that) this is Dfrr i know you have heard of me before. well lets cut to the chase this user name User:Trimethylxanthine has only been getting messages from me (which is no problem at all as i a happy to send him mesages) One user who welcomed him here when he first came here in 2007 and User:EpochFail who told him that i told him (Mr. Epoch) about him. User:Dennis Bratland User:Matty.077 User:StuRat User:Conifer and many other users have gotten this message and Mr. Epoch will be talking to Mr. Conifer about Mr, Trimet. so we should be sending him (Mr. Trimet) messages barnstars wikiloves anything to make him feel that people know about him. anyways you can discuss it with the users listed here and User:Conifer who will be happy to speak to you about it. thank you and have a very good year````
ANI
Any suggestions? My warning on her Talk page was simply cited on the MfD talk page as retaliation for her vote. Formerly 98 01:23, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- I have left my response at ANI. Let's keep the discussion in one place. --Jayron32 01:27, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
No sarcasm intended
I only just now saw this edit summary: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Medeis&diff=654725065&oldid=654724876 and wanted to let you know that I meant what I said sincerely, without sarcasm. μηδείς (talk) 17:10, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for clarifying. It can be hard to tell sometimes. But I appreciate your comment. Thank you. --Jayron32 23:43, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the protection adjustment
Cheers. I protected one of those refdesk pages 12hrs yesterday, but could have sworn Materialscientist was protecting a week. Now I see the logs are usually a day or less. I will follow suit.
I try to remember this saying: "Don't trust your memory.", but it always slips my mind. :)
Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:31, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's all good. The Red Desks are a high traffic area for lots of IP editors. We really shouldn't protect it long term. Besides, once we figure out this guy's editing pattern, we can probably make it even more targeted. Assuming he has to go to school or earn a paycheck some time, he can't vandalize it 24 hours a day. --Jayron32 23:46, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- That makes sense. I actually always err on the side of under-protection whenever possible for exactly that reason. So, this was a poor memory issue. :) And yes, I do hope he finds something more interesting to do than this. Such a waste of precious life hours. Thanks again and happy editing, my friend. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:54, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages talk:Reference desk/header
May need semi-protection, or at least watchlisting. Abecedare (talk) 20:58, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Unblock request on hold
I have placed on hold an unblock request at User talk:PartyPerson 880. I totally agree with your block, but the editor is now apologising and promising to edit constructively in future, in a way which seems to me sincere. In my experience, in this situation, if the editor is unblocked, the promise to edit constructively is kept, and we gain a constructive editor, while the worst that can happen is that the vandalism continues, and we block again very quickly, so little is lost. I am therefore very much inclined to make a WP:ROPE unblock, but I thought I would first ask you if you have any opinion on the matter. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:32, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
- No objections from me. Blocks are cheap. If there's another problem, we can always reblock. Go ahead and unblock them. --Jayron32 11:48, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks for the answer. We'll see how it goes. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 15:28, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Q
. I tried to copy the whole section, but got caught in the edit filter as a vandal]
So they can't check if users over a certain age are the same? Is that not a little pointless? Or is it in case they happened to have the same IP as someone else a while ago? 86.190.44.212 19:46 (UTC)
- Above edit is still marked as vandalism by the editing filter, see the talk history. Delibzr (talk) 21:35, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
The moron returneth
Didn't take long before the perennial pest found out that Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Language had been unprotected, so I saw no alternative to reinstating the protection. Favonian (talk) 20:33, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- 4 minutes. Not bad. Thanks for taking care of that. We need to get some checkusers on this post-haste and see if we can't get a rangeblock. --Jayron32 20:54, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
A Barnstar for you
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Teahouse Barnstar |
| Every answer you give is accurate and "on point". Thanks. Cullen Let's discuss it 06:09, 18 April 2015 (UTC) |
- Thank you so much! --Jayron32 01:10, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Request for comment
I saw your name on the volunteers list at WP:PR and it was suggested that I ping someone. So, can you review my article? Best, jona 03:08, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
someone private address at the reference desk
Hi Jayron32. I'm not 100% certain of the wikipedia policies, but it doesn't seem right to me that a person's private mailing address is being posted, together with their name (and presumably without their knowledge) in these two threads: language desk, reference desk talk page. I mean, I have seen people redact phone numbers and addresses before. If this is correct, can you do the magic admin deletion on the relevant edits? Thank you. 184.147.117.34 (talk) 00:53, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Jayron 32, since you seem very busy hope you don't mind I ask another admin I have seen at the ref desks @Future Perfect at Sunrise: to have a look at this. Thanks Future Perfect at Sunrise. 184.147.117.34 (talk) 13:09, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Protection
Did you intend the semi-protection on Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Mathematics to be indefinite? I believe that the protection on the other parts of the ref desk has expired, though of course it may need to be reimposed if the vandal returns. The question was raised at WP:HD. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:02, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Hillary Rodham Clinton - Move Discussion
Hi,
This is a notification to let you know that there is a requested move discussion ongoing at Talk:Hillary_Rodham_Clinton/April_2015_move_request#Requested_move. You are receiving this notification because you have previously participated in some capacity in naming discussions related to the article in question.
Thanks. And have a nice day. NickCT (talk) 18:42, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/April 26, 2015
Hi Jayron, I watch WP:ERRORS and didn't see anything ... also, that wasn't an error. What did I miss? - Dank (push to talk) 00:15, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
- See T:MP. --Jayron32 00:21, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing me to it, I don't usually watch T:MP. FWIW, I see that construction more often from the Australians at Milhist than I do in AmEng, but it's not ungrammatical in any flavor of English. - Dank (push to talk) 00:47, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Also: I want to apologize for the "it's just obvious" tone I was taking on WT:MAIN, that wasn't helpful. Part of the problem is, I think, that the TFA process is missing something it needs. I'll work on that. - Dank (push to talk) 13:34, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Erroneous edits
I think it would have been more appropriate for you to alert me to any errors so that I could fix them and apologize rather than reporting what even you note as probably a mistake to AIV. Donner60 (talk) 23:31, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
I have added this to the AIV page and leave it here in case you are not monitoring it and to keep all the comments in one place. :What I saw, and what I thought I was reverting, was removal of the redirects. Perhaps I made a mistake and misread those changes. I am sorry that you felt the need to chastise me. I have made a few mistakes over the years but I have made many proper edits and almost 250 reports to AIV which have resulted in blocks.
Please know that I have no intention of being critical or argumentative. I simply felt I needed to explain myself. I know administrators have a hard job and you are not mind readers. I also know you need to act quickly on what you see when there is a backlog. So I apologize if I have seemed petulant. Donner60 (talk) 23:40, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
I placed no warnings on the user's page. Nonetheless, I have apologized for any trouble or inconvenience caused by my reversion. My report followed warnings by another user. I checked back again and found the user left no edit summaries on the removal of the redirects. On the other hand, I realize that the one sentence substituted for the redirect may have been intended as the beginning of a substantive article or could even be considered a stub. Again, I only note this as explanation and clarification, not to be argumentative. I have changed a few redirects to articles myself. Thank you for your work on these problems and mistakes. Donner60 (talk) 00:56, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
week long
The IP is correct, the riots were only one night, the protests and curfew have been week-long, the blurb shouldn't imply the riots themselves were a week long. Thanks for posting, in any case. μηδείς (talk) 03:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- So fixed. --Jayron32 03:20, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- Not to pester you, but I'd say "following rioting in Baltimore and a week of national protests", since the protests have been widespread, from NYC to Denver and with clashes with police in Philly. μηδείς (talk) 03:27, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- I think eventually conciseness and completeness need to reach a happy medium. I'm happy with what it says now. There's been a weekish worth of protests in Baltimore, which is the locus of the news story anyways. The existence of smaller, satellite protests in other cities is a fact, but probably not worth mentioning in the blurb, IMHO. The blurb is now, at least, not wrong (as the "week long riots" would have been) and readers can find out more by clicking blue links. It's sufficient and fully correct, which is enough as far as I am concerned. We can't tell the whole story in a line of text. --Jayron32 03:32, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- Not to pester you, but I'd say "following rioting in Baltimore and a week of national protests", since the protests have been widespread, from NYC to Denver and with clashes with police in Philly. μηδείς (talk) 03:27, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Bring joy
Quoting you: "If it brings you joy to add them where needed ...", talking about infoboxes, - I would like to express that it would bring me joy to have one for Ray Barra, an article I expanded yesterday (and linked to on the Main page). I may not add one by the power of the holy arbcom, because I didn't turn a red link blue, - I have to carefully watch that or will be taken to arbitration enforcement. If this makes as much sense to you as to me, feel free to add one, - a small one is fine, - I may add. Also I like them small, some idea of place and time at a glance is all I want ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:31, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- If you have a history of disruption, the community will try to stop you. It isn't like you can wake up every day and the past patterns of your behavior magically didn't happen. You (as in the singular you) cannot do so because you (as in the singular you) have shown you cannot be trusted to work well with others. If you had not have done what you had done, you would not be in this situation. Don't act like someone singled you out for no reason, and that you'd never done anything to disrupt the editing process. People who don't have a history of disruption can feel free to continue to not be disruptive. Those that have lost the community trust should not do those things which caused the loss of that trust. --Jayron32 14:13, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Question
Why did you close the discussion and write 'has no one ever learned ANYTHING around here. Seriously. Just no' - what do you mean? AusLondonder (talk) 01:46, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- No positive, productive, or useful result has ever come from bringing up Eric Corbett/Malleus at ANI. Ever. In History. Don't do it, you will not be happy. The best thing to do is just pretend it didn't happen and go about your life. You'll be better for it. Trust me. --Jayron32 01:47, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- Why? Misplaced Pages has a cartel going for uncivil users. AusLondonder (talk) 01:58, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- No, just him. Look, run the experiment. Reopen your discussion. I'm just saying I've been here a decade. I've seen the experiment run many times. I don't expect the sun to rise in the west tomorrow. But who knows? You go ahead and have your fun. We'll see how it turns out. Just don't say you weren't warned. --Jayron32 01:59, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- I won't, I've had enough of Misplaced Pages and the incivility. I have tried hard to learn policy and contribute (710 contributions, 21 new pages) but I won't put up with constant abuse. AusLondonder (talk) 02:01, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- You don't have to. You just ignore Eric, pretend he isn't there, and go about your business. It works for everyone the best. --Jayron32 02:02, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- What about the other, ruder, more aggressive editor? AusLondonder (talk) 02:09, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- He isn't Eric. I'm sure someone will do something about him. --Jayron32 02:10, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- What about the other, ruder, more aggressive editor? AusLondonder (talk) 02:09, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- You don't have to. You just ignore Eric, pretend he isn't there, and go about your business. It works for everyone the best. --Jayron32 02:02, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- I won't, I've had enough of Misplaced Pages and the incivility. I have tried hard to learn policy and contribute (710 contributions, 21 new pages) but I won't put up with constant abuse. AusLondonder (talk) 02:01, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- No, just him. Look, run the experiment. Reopen your discussion. I'm just saying I've been here a decade. I've seen the experiment run many times. I don't expect the sun to rise in the west tomorrow. But who knows? You go ahead and have your fun. We'll see how it turns out. Just don't say you weren't warned. --Jayron32 01:59, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- Why? Misplaced Pages has a cartel going for uncivil users. AusLondonder (talk) 01:58, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- Jayron, in all fairness, this was a dispute whose outcome was going to be obvious, and whether or not Eric was involved doesn't change that. Drmies (talk) 04:23, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- In all fairness, no one should ever bring Eric's name up at ANI. It never produces any good results, regardless of the merits. --Jayron32 13:46, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- Not true: in this case, the result was as it should have been. Jayron, do you need a kitten, or a little pastry with your morning coffee? :) Drmies (talk) 15:32, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
"The Bible and rape" page
Hi, I've been working on a page on "The Bible and rape." I just saw the AfD and wanted to ask you whether I've adequately addressed your points. If you would like, I could copy-paste what I have below. I think I've found a great deal of reliable sources on the topic, and I am very careful to have a high quality of referencing, no OR and adhere to NPOV. I still discuss some of the passages you flagged, BUT only if they have been interpreted as such in reliable sources. What do you think? Once again, I can show you what I have so far if you want. Thanks. BenLinus1214 18:09, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- 9 years is a LONG time to remember my thoughts. Do you have a link to your new draft article? I can look back at the AFD and see perhaps what my concerns were, and see if the proper changes have been made. --Jayron32 18:13, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not done with my draft yet. Should I show you what I have so far or wait until I am done? BenLinus1214 21:59, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- Whenever you're ready, just let me know. --Jayron32 00:42, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, I've posted part of it at my sandbox. Scroll down a bit. Don't worry--the "religious responses to criticism" section will be a decent length as well. BenLinus1214 02:15, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- I've read the bit that you have there, and my suggestion is to spend more of your writing covering the work of reliable, respected scholars from various religious traditions and what they have to say on it. Presenting Bible passages as being about rape where it isn't unambiguously so is hard to do. For example, in the lengthy Deuteronomy section you quote, I would only interpret the middle scenario as probably rape, it makes it somewhat clear there that the sex wasn't consensual. The other scenarios so described, not so much. What you should focus on is "Scholar John Doe notes that passage so-and-so describes rape thusly" and not merely "passage so-and-so describes rape thusly". There's likely a lot of good scholarship on the topic; you would do well to not speak in Misplaced Pages's voice, but instead cite (directly, naming them) scholars themselves. That's my feeling so far. --Jayron32 02:26, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, I've posted part of it at my sandbox. Scroll down a bit. Don't worry--the "religious responses to criticism" section will be a decent length as well. BenLinus1214 02:15, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Whenever you're ready, just let me know. --Jayron32 00:42, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not done with my draft yet. Should I show you what I have so far or wait until I am done? BenLinus1214 21:59, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
RfC: Guidance on commas after Jr. and Sr.
Following the closure of a recent RfC you participated in, I have started an RfC on the separate but related issue of commas after Jr. and Sr.. Please see Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy) § RfC: Guidance on commas after Jr. and Sr. and feel free to comment there. Thanks! —sroc 💬 06:03, 14 May 2015 (UTC)