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Requested move 27 July 2015

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Template:Series overview → Template:Television series overview – Misplaced Pages has articles on lots of types of series (books, comics, motorbikes, cameras, etc.) This template is for television series. The shorter name will remain as a redirect. I moved it once, but was reverted, apparently because "Series overviews are listed under 'Series overview' in episode listing". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:25, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose: The series overview table is always listed under a header of "Series overview", hence the name. Such a table is used nowhere else - there are no "Book series overview"'s or "Camera series overviews"'s. Alex|The|Whovian 14:31, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
  • We name templates for clarity, to make things easier for editors. Not for the subheadings under which they appear. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:52, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Clarification is not required when it is only used for one thing, much like disambiguation pages. Alex|The|Whovian 14:54, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

That argument is without foundation. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:00, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

As is your reply. Alex|The|Whovian 15:02, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Sawol (talk) 02:08, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
• Pointless if, as you said, he shorter name will remain as a redirect. If there's nothing broken, there's nothing to fix. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 05:14, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
• Comment - WikiProject Television notified here. --AussieLegend (✉) 05:22, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose I'm not convinced by the "we name templates for clarity" argument. If that were really true, then {{Infobox settlement}} would need to be moved as it's not just used for settlements and there are many other templates whose name lacks clarity, such as {{Infobox park}}, which is used for gardens as well as parks. We name templates according to their primary purpose, clarification of which should be included in the documentation. This template is used as the header for "series overview" tables so "series overview" seems a more than appropriate title. Naming of this template is consistent with {{episode list}} which is used for individual episode entries. I also find EvergreenFir's argument compelling. If {{Series overview}} remains in place as a redirect, moving the template really achieves nothing. Somebody looking for a book series overview (if anyone does) will still end up at the same place. --AussieLegend (✉) 05:26, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
• Support – "Series" could mean anything; "Television series" is more precise. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 06:23, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
  • As said before: The series overview table is used nowhere else - there are no "Book series overview"'s or "Camera series overviews"' Clarification is not required when it is only used for one thing, much like disambiguation pages. Alex|The|Whovian 07:17, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
    • Yes, Alex, I understand your point. My point is that I generally prefer clarity to the point where others would consider it "over-disambiguation" (IOW, this is one area what I don't necessarily totally agree with the guidelines...). Also, just because it's only template with this name now doesn't mean there won't be some template in the future with a similar name, and there's no reason not to clarify the use for this template now... Anyway, that's my opinion – I agree with Andy on this: the extra precision is a plus. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 07:23, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
      • Template:Television series overview already redirects here, so technically, the clarification already exists and hence nothing needs to be done. Alex|The|Whovian 07:45, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose. Moving templates is one of the most pointless things to do on Misplaced Pages, and that's saying a fair bit. Jenks24 (talk) 13:30, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
• 'Oppose per AussieLegend and EvergreenFir. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

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