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I RETIRED IN THE MULTIVERSE

This user left Misplaced Pages in an alternate universe...

Flyer22 died sometime between 13:24, 23 October 2015 and 14:21, 23 October 2015. Well, a little after 14:21, 23 October 2015. You can learn more about her at her introduction page and user page. Also see her views on disruptive editors and the administrators who protect the project from them, and her acknowledging a lack of respect for those who don't. The few WP:INVOLVED administrators who seemed like they would block her at any time for protecting the project, especially the one or two acting like she was problematic, also featured low on her "respect list." In fact, it was this latter aspect that led to her death. She was never a big believer in templating the regulars. She was quite the hardened personality or hothead after years of dealing with the worst type of editors, and having such matters exacerbated by nonchalant editors (especially nonchalant administrators who haven't a clue about what content creators go through). She often contemplated leaving this depressing place for good, and was clear that she'd never suggest anyone, let alone a woman, edit Misplaced Pages. Editors wanting to close the gender gap could not rely on her to spread any good word about this site.

I am the new Flyer22 (Flyer22 Reborn), left in her place. I have some of the same ideas or views as her. And I have the same skills as her (for example, I can surely recognize if you are not a WP:Newbie, even though I likely will not press you on it unless necessary). But unlike Flyer22, I take more of a WP:Don't-give-a-fuckism approach. I might also be painfully nice to you even when you are a highly disruptive editor who deserves no such respect. You can vandalize my user page or talk page, or leave confrontational and/or disparaging remarks on them, and I'll welcome you with open arms, no matter how fake. I might even take the WP:Assume good faith guideline to the extreme, like some other editors here do. You can call me Flyer22, if you like, but mistaking me for the other one is misguided.

If you leave a message here, I will usually reply here instead of at your talk page.

Hey baby

Since this will be the only time I will ever be able to get away with calling you "baby" (Flyer 22 reborn), I thought I would take advantage of it! :) Viriditas (talk) 02:39, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

I am of course disgusted that you would make such a grossly sexist remark. And even more disgusted that you beat me to it. ;) John Carter (talk) 19:45, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

The new Flyer dyed her brown hair platinum blonde and moved to South Beach where she is a high-priced call girl/Sexologist. Wlmg (talk) 01:10, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

In your dreams, buddy. I can see her right now in my mind's eye: she's a beautiful, marine biologist who is desperately trying to save the world's oceans from collapse and trying to get her life-saving research published in a respected journal. She's figured out how to save the coral from bleaching and the fish from dying by decoding a message hidden inside a whale song frequency. She discovers that the oceans are being poisoned by a deadly mixture of caffeine and sildenafil seeping from wastewater treatment plants. She's in a precarious position: how to convince the world powers that they must give up their cup of morning joe and their morning wood? Think Jodie Foster in Contact meets Julia Roberts in Erin Brockovich. I can do this for under 50 million. Viriditas (talk) 01:20, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Welcome

I didn't mind the old flyer22's spirited editing, but I welcome the new flyer22 as well. Congrats.Mattnad (talk) 10:29, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi

I'm not sure if I am using this correctly, but I just wanted to say, I am not using multiple IP's or accounts to edit pages. I only have this one account.

Thank you. Moley87 (talk)

RfA

I was going to ask if I could nominate you to become an administrator, but I'm not sure if you've left now or not. Still, if you are still here and would like to become an admininistrator, I am happy to nominate you. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 17:06, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

This has come up before she has no desire for the mop.Wlmg (talk) 01:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

That was before she was reborn. Dr. K. 01:11, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Rubbish computer, at this point in my Misplaced Pages career, it wouldn't work. See User talk:Flyer22 Reborn/Archive 18#Adminship. Maybe in three or five years, when my hothead persona has cooled down (the name "Flyer22 Reborn" is to go along with a change in behavior); but even then, it likely wouldn't work. People have a difficult time getting over troubling past incidents, and often only look at one's blocklog without doing the important research on it. My sockpuppet cases (the two specifically about me), even with Alison helping to explain, and even with having been a big sock catcher, would be something to overcome. I can see all of the questions and other queries that would be posed about that. My youngest brother, who edited Misplaced Pages as an IP before getting a registered account that became tied to mine, is an actual person. He indeed copied my style of editing and writing (it was how he first learned to work his way through Misplaced Pages), but not completely; he made mistakes in adapting my style to his. The general Misplaced Pages editor doesn't know this. And they only have my and Alison's word on it. And then there's my attitude toward Misplaced Pages, even the current text at the top of my user page (about dying, being reborn. etc.) would be used against me (whether I were to remove it before the WP:RfA or not). As I've recently noted, I am very self-aware and I know how others perceive me (the ones who like me, the ones who don't, and the ones in between); I noted that not being an administrator allowed me more leeway in how I went about dealing with disruptive Misplaced Pages editors. Montanabw has dealt with disruptive editors in similar ways. And we see how some people commenting in her WP:RfA had an issue with it. I know exactly how administrators are supposed to present themselves and what they should and shouldn't do, but WP:RfAs are based on past behavior, not so much on current or future behavior. So, no, there is no way that I would subject myself to such a grueling process at this point in my Misplaced Pages career. And it is most certainly a career as far as I'm concerned. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:21, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

I think you're right Flyer. Your block log (rap sheet) makes you a Wikifelon :( Wlmg (talk) 01:41, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

I see. During the renaming the archives were renamed also, therefore, technically speaking, the decision regarding RfA was adopted by the new Flyer. I am disappointed to hear that; the reborn Flyer should not be burdened by the past. Hopefully in the not too distant future the new Flyer may change her mind. Dr. K. 01:44, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Okay, thanks anyway. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 02:04, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

It's good to see you haven't left. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 02:06, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Hugs to both old and new Flyer! And a song for you!. Montanabw 03:14, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Like Montanabw said! Since Flyer can be reincarnated based solely on the force of her awesome personality, I request that Todd return to General Hospital, just so we can see more of this! For some odd reason, this whole situation seems to fit the ring tone. ;) Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 03:44, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Worried

I think you seriously may have slipped a cog this time Flyer. And don't f*ck around with multiverses. You may not like what you find. Wlmg (talk) 20:17, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

She lives in Florida, the alternate universe of the US. They don't call it "weird" for nothing. Where else can you get attacked by gators and humans, both of whom are trying to eat your face off? And the state government has prohibited their employees from discussing or mentioning climate change (because in the alternate reality known as Florida, climate change is a hoax). Don't even get me started on the hanging chads. If it wasn't for Florida, 9/11 might not have happened, there wouldn't have been multiple wars based on false premises, and I would still be able to get on an airplane without someone touching my balls. Viriditas (talk) 21:34, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

She's in the 'verse where Misplaced Pages has become the Galactic Library and there are no vandals or trolls or POV-pushers or socks or... --NeilN 21:42, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

There's More Than One of Everything. Flyer, I really hope you finally found time to make it all the way through the Fringe series. I admit, the last season is a pain, but there's no better treatment of the multiverse in popular culture. Viriditas (talk) 00:20, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Last wishes

To the "old Flyer22", so to speak, I hope you were able to enjoy the time you spent here. May the "reborn" Flyer also have a good overall experience here. Snuggums (talk / edits) 22:06, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

FYI: WP:Articles for deletion/Karen Franklin (2nd nomination)

A page whose deletion discussion you participated in was re-added and nominated for deletion again. See: WP:Articles_for_deletion/Karen_Franklin_(2nd_nomination) Barcaboy2 (talk) 16:44, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, Barcaboy2, I don't have anything else to state on all of that; as you can see at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Karen Franklin, I commented once. I recently linked Karen Franklin at the Hebephilia article, though, because it seemed you were going to forgo nominating it for deletion again. I did think that my linking the article there might lead someone to re-nominate it for deletion, not James since he has a WP:Conflict of interest with her (seeing those two duke it out is like watching a movie or reading a feisty book and needing popcorn to go along with the spectacle, despite the fact that debating sexual interest in early/mid pubescents is something I'd very much rather not be doing or reading), but I don't feel strongly one way or the other about the Karen Franklin article. I know that Franklin would rather not have her Misplaced Pages article deleted. The new Karen Franklin article is substantially different than the previous one, though. NeilN or some other administrator watching my talk page, do you mind restoring the previous Karen Franklin article, to my WP:Userspace, so that it can be used as a comparison to the new Karen Franklin article?

On a side note: Barcaboy2, I added on to your FYI heading so that it is clearer as to what this discussion is about and will be easier to locate once archived. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:35, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Done. User:Flyer22 Reborn/sandbox. --NeilN 03:43, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Neil. I'll link it at the new deletion debate. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:46, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, I was remembering one of the older versions, Neil. The one you recreated seems to be a stubbed version. The stubbed version isn't all that different than the new version. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:48, 27 October 2015 (UTC)