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TripWire

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Request concerning TripWire

User who is submitting this request for enforcement

D4iNa4 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 14:53, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested

TripWire (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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Sanction or remedy to be enforced

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Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

Edit warring and WP:GAMING to have consensus, continues to reinstate something for which he has gained no consensus. Such as:-

reverted here:

Reinstated reverted edit again, got reverted again, then reinstated same edit again, then reinstated once again after being reverted, and again, while sure that he was sure that his edit will be reverted.

WP:NPA, WP:SOAP violation.

"Like I have said many times, stop wasting time. The best you can do is to support socks and their contentious edits, unfortunately you'll fail in that too."

"I'd suggest that you keep your Mullah Raj theory with you and act maturely."

Use of very hostile language, WP:BATTLE.

"I know a dear friends of yours was blocked for socking and one does get jumpy at times."

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

1. Topic banned from all "edits related to Pakistani politics and Indian/Pakistani conflicts, for a period of 6 months".

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Just came off a topic ban this year.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Once he would realize that his topic ban is no more in force, he would go back to making those same kinds of edits that led to the topic ban, he would make three objectionable edits to Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1965 at first, then he disrupted the article Bangladesh Liberation War by edit warring and making hostile comments on talk page, after that he would falsely accuse @Volunteer Marek: of harassment. And now he seems to be missing no chance to attack editors like @Ghatus and Kautilya3: and others. D4iNa4 (talk) 14:53, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Discussion concerning TripWire

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Statement by (TripWire)

A highly bad-faithed report. D4iNa4 was:

• Never in conflict with me
• Was not involved in the edits he has quoted
• Never interacted directly or at talk-pages.
• Has dug out events from history/past which has no bearing on policy vio.

One cannot but wonder what prompted him to file this report?

Please note that edits referred by D4iNa4 were made as 3 others and myself were in conflict with MBlaze Lightning - a blocked sock. His master KnightWarrior25 was blocked for POV/edit-warring, NOT for socking. So, these edits were challenges to a blocked POV-pusher/habitual edit-warrer and were mainly done to fight a sock while following WP:BRD, WP:CONSENSUS. If left uncheck, MBL threatened Misplaced Pages as project. All this was done while talking it out with involved editors. At no place did I edit-war as being claimed or else I must have been reported to ANI. MBL being a sock & his master being blocked for POV-pushing/edit-warring is altogether a confirmation that I was correct in my approach.

The policy for filing a report here says that "diffs older than one week may be declined as stale" but D4iNa4 has quoted weeks old diffs.

Reply:

Accusation-1:

1

Reply-1:

Edit 1 was made per WP:UNDUE following WP:BRD while reasoning in the edit-summary. 2 was a revert by MBL, which led to the 'D' part and he was convinced he was wrong.

Accusation-2:

Reply-2:

Note: D4iNa4 has quoted random unrelated edits and pieced them together to incorrectly show I edit-warred.

• Edit 3: MBL added word-to-word DUPLICATE content and was (obviously) reverted. It took a talk page section and 3 editors (Kautilya3 diff and Ghatus diff - both Indians) to explain MBL that he was adding duplicate info.

Hence my revert was correct/justified, and complainant is manipulating facts.

• Edit :

- First, complainant says that edit 5 & 3 are same (i.e. I reverted twice) to prove that I edit-warred which is incorrect. As was made on 24 March whereas edit was made on 1 April. Both concerned two DIFFERENT issues which were being discussed SEPARATELY at talk.

- Second, 5 was made to restore "sourced" content removed by MBL (sock), per consensus at talk. Check edit-summary.

• Edit 6 was per WP:NOTTRUTH and is also not connected with either 7 or 8 as these three concerned three different issues and were made weeks apart. One being as early as 1 April and the latest one on 10 April. Complainant has just dug-up my entire history and pieced random edits together in sheer bad-faith to show that I edit-warred. BTW, none of the edits mentioned violated any policy as all were being discussed per WP:BRD, not to mention that the edits were made to challenge a blocked sock whose master was also blocked for pushing POV.

Accusation-3:

"Like I have said many times, stop wasting time. The best you can do is to support socks and their contentious edits, unfortunately you'll fail in that too."

Reply-3

Kautilya3 has a history of supporting socks. He has been pushing MBL's edits even after he was blocked and also supported Ghautus' WP:OR here. He had supported POV edits of User:Akbar the Great- User:Bazaan's sock, been in contact with User:Greek Legend- a sock of User:CosmicEmperor and now he openly owned edits of MBL. He's been exchanging emails with socks-admitted on an Admin's page.

Moreover, I made the above reply when Kautilya3 had attacked me first:

"Oh, good. You are dodging my question (which i did not) . That is what I thought you would do. For me to say anything on talk, you need to state an objection first, which you never did. Frankly, I don't think you have any clue what is going on here." diff.

Accusation-4:

"I'd suggest that you keep your Mullah Raj theory with you and act maturely."

Reply-4:

This was made in response to Kautilya3's following comment:

"We are not going to have a Mullah Raj on Misplaced Pages."

I'll leave it to the admins to decide who was attacking whom.

Accusation-5:

"I know a dear friends of yours was blocked for socking and one does get jumpy at times."

Reply-5:

Background: I removed a WP:FAKE content added by MBL, but Kautilya3 immediately reverted me in a knee-jerk reaction. Like any good editor, I opened a discussion. After talking with Kautilya3, he accepted his mistake and agreed to self-revert. As he was restoring a sock's edit and have admitted of being in contact with him, I simply pointed out that a senior editor like him should be careful before he reverts in favour of a blocked user. In short, I was correct in making that edit. Kautilya3 agreed too.

Point scoring by D4iNa4 in Bad-Faith:

"Just came off a topic ban this year"

Reply:

• First, I didn't come off topic just this year. I was banned on 3 July 2015 which ended on 4 January 2016 (3 months from now). I remained semi-active on Wiki during my topic-ban avoiding the topics I was banned from. When my ban ended, I still didnt start editing the pages I was banned from immediately, instead participated on these topics from 20 February 2016 (1 month 12 days after the ban ended). I used this 1 month to develop more understanding of polices and didnt just jump back to editing. Even then too my first edit after my topic-ban ended was reverting vandalism - MBL had POVed against longstanding consensus (see my edit-summary). I revert vandalism but still get reported by D4iNa4?

Accusation-6:

Edits and D4iNa4's personal opinion without proof.

Reply-6:

• Note:14 & 15 are same edits but quoted TWICE to add false weight to report.
• Edit14/15 was made per WP:WEASEL on 28 Feb 2016 and has been unchallenged to-date. Why the complaint then?
• Edit 16 was made when Kautilya3 removed content saying it was unsourced. I reverted it by citing a source, to which Kautilya3 agreed - so, which policy did I violate? Complainant has deliberately skipped this fact. The content is unchallenged to-date)!
• Edit 17 is same as edit 10, and has already been replied at Accusation-4.
• Edit is true as VM did indeed harass me and I took the matter to FPAS' talk-page. Self-explanatory details can be seen in the edit itself.

To Admins: I'll ask for boomerang as this report is vindictive and D4iNa4 implied that just because I was topic banned before, he can hound me on that basis even after the ban ended.

Reply to Capitals00

First, hey there, havent seen you much, thankyou for waking up. How did you know about this report by the way? Coming over to your accusations:

• Edit : Adding an image twice in the same article disrupts Misplaced Pages. Here's why:

Image "1971 Instrument of Surrender.jpg" was already present in the article, but MBL (banned sock) added it again without removing the one already present. Dont know if you didnt see it or was it done deliberately to push POV. It was removed by someone but was then re-added by VM here. Yep, the same image twice.

I then undid it giving full explanation in the edit-summary. But Capitals00 re-added it. Yep, the same image twice in the same article.

When my edit-summaries couldnt make you understand that the image was a duplicate, I then opened a talk-page section for discussion 20 - the same link that now you have quoted accusing me of 'disparaging' titles, which indeed was a plus for me as I followed WP:BRD (though WP:BURDEN of consensus for adding a duplicate image was on you or MBL per WP:BRD). As you engaged in WP:DE by adding a duplicate image repeatedly without talking, thus the title "Disruptive Editing by Capitals00", especially when you not only added a duplicate image but also made a blanket revert.

After opening the talk-page section, I undid (23) the image and explained that the image was a duplicate. But surprisingly MBL again added the image without responding at talk!

The image was again removed and I warned you guys to stop or I will take this matter to ANI. Only then did VM removed the duplicate image and I backed-out while the already present (same) image was moved up to the infobox i.e the sock succeeded!

Now Admins, please tell, was I wrong in asking them to remove a duplicate image and even invited them to discuss the issue? Why did Capitals00 not mention this and instead cherrypicked the 'title' (which was fine BTW)?

Admins, none of the edits I made above violated 3RR.

• Edit : Was made per WP:CON. We all had reached consensus on various Bangladesh talk-pages that per WP:HIST newspapers would not be taken as RS when adding content to historical topics, rather books would be preferred. Kutilya3 will back me on this. The edit was per consensus, my edit-summary made it clear too.
• Edit : MBL and Capitals00 were adding a duplicate image, WP:BURDEN of consensus was on them, not me. But I still backed-out even when no consensus was reached.
• Edit : Why? Did you even read my reply to Di4AN4?
• WP:ASPERSION: Both Ghatus and Kautilya3 are Indians - even their user-page says so. So was MBL. All I said was that MBL's POV-pushing was so bad that even they agreed/supported with me against MBL at times.
• false accusations of meat puppetry and sock puppetry: MBL is blocked for socking. Di4AN4 and I never crossed paths, neither did Capitals00. How the report then, who informed Capitals00 of this report?

Reply to Kautilya3

Out of the 1,381 edits I have made, 286 are on unique pages, but that makes me an SPA?

Spartaz, I cannot possibly reply to 18 accusations, most of which are false/bad-faithed, in less than 500 words. I request you to un-hat my reply, please in the interest of clarity.—TripWire ︢ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︡ ︢ ︡   14:54, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Statement by Kautilya3

Some general remarks concerning TripWire. As far as I can see, they are an SPA, whose contributions are limited to Indo-Pakistan conflicts. Secondly, the majority of their contribution are to edit-war over the content that the others have contributed, very little of their own content. How much of that the project can tolerate is a big question. TripWire has barely come off a 6-moth topic ban. Whether their behaviour has improved as a result is another question. I think it has. There is less edit-warring and more participation on the talk pages, even though I would say it is still far from ideal. The over-aggressive behaviour in discussions continues.

One factor that is currently playing out at the moment is that MBlaze Lightning has been indeffed, rightly, and the pro-Pakistan editors favour reverting all of his edits wholesale. I have objected to that approach and said that we need to discuss specific objections in an issue-based way. That has not gone down well with the pro-Pakistan editors, and they have taken to calling me a supporter, even a "meatpuppet," of MBlaze. However, ironically, TripWire has been forced to point out on this page how often I have opposed MBlaze and supported their stance instead. That is poetic justice, it seems.

Given that TripWire's behaviour shows improvement, I don't believe any serious sanction is warranted at this stage. However some cautionary remarks to TripWire to tone down their rhetoric and be more collaborative in their approach would be welcome. A recognition that editors like me are willing to listen to all sides would also be useful.

Statement by Freeatlast

We can see from the get go that the entire "evidence" here is fabricated.

1. The first claim of gaming cleverly and conveniently fails to say that in actuality Tripwire was undoing vandalism by a sockpuppet and trying his best to refrain from even touching the article. You will see that many of his reverts are to versions that are from uninvolved editors.
2. As far as the so called "personal attacks" go we have someone who is asking for a t-ban based on an editor saying "please act maturely". I do not know whether to laugh or cry at the copious amounts of bad faith oozing from this. This is a highly volatile area and truth be told if every editor who asked another to "act maturely" was banned from topics we will have to T-ban almost 75% of editors. So this is just a "filler" used by the nom to "beef up" his accusations, and make them look big. more space=more suspicion. The reaction usually is "There are so many diffs, he MUST have done something".
3. As far as the accusation of WP:BATTLE is concerned firstly you can see that once again it is a filler. Why not include it with NPA? no Sir! We are going to make a new accusation. Secondly it is clearly the exact opposite of what the nom claims, Tripwire is actually saying "no harm, no foul" at the end leading to quite a good faith ending to a heated discussion. Including such a diff here is mind bogglingly bad faith.

My advice is that the nom should spend time actually improving the encyclopedia instead of filling this kind of bad faith requests. I was going to suggest boomerang but then I though why ask for a block? he only comes online once or twice a week to revert etc. FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 23:54, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Statement by Capitals00

While I have nothing to say about the long and non-convincing explanations of TripWire other than that he is trying to reject any fault with his editing, he is also denying that he recently came off from a topic ban.

TripWire's discussions on talk page has been WP:BATTLEGROUND, he even prefers opening the sections with disparaging titles.

His edit warring is too widespread that he removes what he doesn't like, not to forget that he made four reverts only for removing an infobox image that he didn't liked,, despite he had no consensus to do that and infobox image still exists on the main article.

WP:ASPERSION is being violated on this page alone.

• TripWire: "including Ghatus and Kautilya3 - both Indians"

And also false accusations of meat puppetry and sock puppetry.

• TripWire: "dragging me here to settle his personal scores on the direction of someone"

I don't see how one can deal with such user after they create such a toxic environment. Blocks and topic bans are the only way. Capitals00 (talk) 09:16, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Statement by SheriffIsInTown

By looking at WP:ARBIPA, there were five decisions made in it. The number 2 decision was specifically about sock-puppetry which reads as below:

"2) Abuse of sockpuppet accounts, such as using them to evade blocks, bans, and user accountability–and especially to make personal attacks or reverts, or vandalize–is strictly forbidden."

By reverting the edits of the sock, TripWire was actually upholding WP:ARBIPA's decision number 2 and i don't think he should be held accountable for that and when we look at this the other way around, people who are reinstating the sock's edits are actually violating WP:ARBIPA and instead they should be t-banned for doing that. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 02:25, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Result concerning TripWire

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• TripWire your statement is 1900 words. Reduce it to 500 or I shall cut it off at that point. Hint - spend less time casting aspertions at your opponants and just stick to explaining why you think your edits were not a vio. Spartaz 06:06, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

• FreeatlastChitchat I have hatted your section as there is ample evidence that the OP has used socks - but they have done their time and you know where SPI is if there is new cause for concern. At first blush your section appears aimed at discrediting the OP rather than discussing the complaint. I'm sure you don't really mean to expose yourself by doing that do you so I must be mistaken but please don't do it again.
• SheriffIsInTown I have removed your section entirely. Making a nationality based slur on an AE page? Really? Perhaps you could leave a short note on my talk page explaining how your participation in this area adds any value whatsoever as I'm strongly minded to impose a TBan for that edit. Please don't post to this discussion again. Spartaz 06:05, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
• TripWire, I moved your writing into your own section as required by the instructions here. Please pare everything down ASAP. I think you'll find that if you focus on explaining why your edits were not violations and remove any text referring to the actions of others, you will rapidly be in compliance. --Laser brain (talk) 23:29, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

• TripWire, I've unhatted your statement and will be reviewing it within the next one or two days to consider what action should be taken. Please ensure it reflects what you really want to say (without expanding it) in terms of why your actions are not violations, without referencing the behavior of other editors. Any such text will be disregarded. --Laser brain (talk) 17:28, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Monochrome Monitor

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Request concerning Monochrome Monitor

User who is submitting this request for enforcement

Oncenawhile (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 20:46, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested

Monochrome Monitor (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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Sanction or remedy to be enforced

Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Palestine-Israel_articles#Standard_discretionary_sanctions :

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

(1) WP:1RR at Modern Hebrew:

1. 15:57, 15 April 2016, 16:21, 15 April 2016, 16:26, 15 April 2016, 16:32, 15 April 2016, 16:41, 15 April 2016: A group of edits removing a large amount of text and sources which were discussed at great length by various editors, including Monochrome Monitor, in June 2015 in this talk thread
2. 19:26, 15 April 2016 Second reversion of the same set of edits, with edit comment suggesting page has been turned "into an arab-israeli battleground"

(2) Deletion of a TfD template, just 10 days after being warned against the same behaviour by User:Fayenatic london in a similar situation

1. 19:16, 15 April 2016 Removal of TfD template
2. Previous behaviour recently warned against:

• 07:53, 29 January 2016
• Warning #1 14:59, 29 January 2016
• 18:52, 17 February 2016
• Warning #2: 12:06, 5 April 2016

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

Previous blocks and warnings:

• 15 November 2015, 1 week block (here), "Edit warring Violation of the ARBPIA WP:1RR", later "converted to two week ARBPIA topic ban"
• 24 June 2015, 2 weeks block (here), "abusing multiple acounts" and being caught lying about the same
• 7 June 2015, 3 month topic ban (here), "banned for three months from the topic of the Arab-Israeli conflict on all pages of Misplaced Pages including talk and noticeboards. She does not seem able or willing to obey the 1RR rule on these articles, since this is the third violation."
• 14 May 2015, 24 hours block (here), "Violation of the ARBPIA WP:1RR at Israel, per a report at WP:AN3)"... "The advice given to this editor is well-meaning but is not having much practical effect. She has been warned for a previous 1RR violation at Israel per an AN3 report just five days ago. People who respond and clearly acknowledge the problem are usually not blocked. Her response above indicates she doesn't understand what the 1RR is, and feels that her edits are OK."
• 11 May 2015, Warning (here), "Warned for technical violation of the ARBPIA WP:1RR at Israel. The pattern suggests this editor often gets into trouble. Did you have no idea that adding the category 'Jewish physicists' could be controversial? We don't identify people as adherents to a religion against their will. I hope this pattern doesn't continue. People seem to be cutting her some slack on grounds of being new. This can't go on forever."
• 31 July 2014, Warning (here), "Monochrome monitor is warned that they may be blocked or banned if they continue to edit in a confrontative manner in the Arab-Israeli topic area"
• 10 July 2014, 36 hours block (here), "Arbitration enforcement: Violating the 1 revert rule at Rachel Corrie"

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Reading this editor's previous block and AE history, the editor has historically responded to criticisms by claiming inexperience and ignorance of our rules. The editor has received the support of a more level-headed "mentor", User:Irondome, who has similar editing interests, but who by now has a similar level of editing experience with 4 years' experience and 10,000 edits, versus Monochrome's 3 years and >9,000 edits.

In the past, I, like many others, have cut this editor significant slack, e.g. .

However, four blocks and many warnings later, we are still dealing with the same lack of respect for Misplaced Pages norms, time and time again. Oncenawhile (talk) 20:46, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

In case there is any doubt that the topic Modern Hebrew falls under the ARBPIA definition, Monochrome's own edit comment in the 19:26, 15 April 2016 diff above refers to the article as having become "an arab-israeli battleground". This likely refers to Wexler's theory, which the editor removed in both diffs above. Wexler believes that his theory has met with hostility in the academic world "in part because of the pressure of Zionist ideological needs" (source) Oncenawhile (talk) 22:32, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

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• Diff of the most recent ARBPIA reminder, after the four blocks above

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Discussion concerning Monochrome Monitor

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Statement by Monochrome Monitor

I know the rules, I wont make any excuses because I don't need any. Firstly, Modern Hebrew isn't under Palestine/Israel discretionary sanctions. It has as much to do with the Arab-Israeli conflict as Gaelic has to do with the Troubles. Secondly, yes I was warned of reverting your edits adding deletion templates, but you shouldn't have made them in the first place, since they fit none of the Deletion criterion (it's also a long-standing template used on many articles that many users have contributed to). That fact that you believe (falsely) that the ethnolinguistic grouping of Semitic peoples is a psuedo-scientific racist construct comparable to "Aryans", does not entitle you delete every mention of Semites from wikipedia, especially if your "source" is the article Semitic people. (I can't fully explain the ridiculousness, see here). As for modern Hebrew, you're a rogue editor on that page too, zealously promoting the minority view that Modern Hebrew isn't Semitic because it fits your view of Jews as European interlopers.

It goes on and on, others call the page a "dumping grounds for minority views", a "mess", and a "soapbox". You consistently refused to acknowledge the argument of the majority, and edits which went against your status quo were reverted because of a lack of the very consensus that you sabotaged. You staved off discussion with empty promises of diplomacy and showed no flexibility in making compromises. You follow the letter of the law but not its spirit, exploiting the inherent inertia of a lawful wikipedia, meant to protect it from radical views, not to protect the radical views themselves. You're an agenda editor, nearly all of your edits are Israel-Palestine. I have my own position on I/P but I am always willing to compromise, and I edit other topics. The way you edit on one agenda alone is more contrary to the spirit of wikipedia than my edit warring. You turn articles like Modern Hebrew into proxy wars for the Arab-Israeli conflict. I said the page had BECOME an arab-israeli battleground because YOU ARE MAKING IT ONE by politicizing it. I am not going to treat it with kid gloves as if it were an A/I article simply because you've corrupted it. I wanted to remove the source of the politicization alltogether, as others did in the excerpt I provided from the talk page.

TL;DR The template Semitic Topics met none of the criterion for deletion, and the page Modern Hebrew does not fall under Israel/Palestine sanctions.

Have I edit warred in the past and violated rules? Yes, usually because I was ignorant of the rules, but also because I was simply foolish and impulsive (which I take full responsibility for). But those were my past sins and I did my time then to atone for them. This time I did not violate any rules, and I stand behind the principle of my edits, which I made for a more informative, less politicized encyclopedia.

About Irondome:

Statement by Kautilya3

This is not a statement, but rather guidance to the participants, because no admin seems to be supervising this page at the moment. The rules say that each participant in the case needs to use their own section to make a statement. No threaded discussion is allowed. All statements are limited to 500 words. Longer statements may be truncated at 500 words by the supervising admin.

(I will strike off this comment when a supervising admin takes charge.) -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:14, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Statement by Nishidani

In loco parentis. MM broke 3R. Forget the block log, that relates to a flurry of woes over several months as she tried to get the hang of things. She's a young, competent and dedicated editor, we need them, because she's a hard worker, which most banned editors aren't. Apply a ban (not indefinite) on the page just where she broke 3R, and leave it at that. I'd like Oncenawhile to say whether this might be acceptable. Nishidani (talk) 19:22, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

MM. It doesn't matter what Oncenawhile's POV may be in this case. It is a matter of a strict rule, which you appear to have broken (but then again, I'm a duffer re IR and 3R interpretation), If by your own lights you did, then admit it, and ask for clemency. If not, then persuade the arbs with a diff analysis. It's been a long day. And I fucked up. MM hasn't broken any rule for that page. She did remove a substantial amount of matter, and the edit summary dismissing Paul Wexler, emeritus prof of linguistics as Tel Uni as fringe, unreliable on this area, and removable, was very poor judgement. She did revert, after a note on her page, to the prior text. My apologies to MM, and the admins for being too quick in reading the diffs (and not looking at intermediate edits)Nishidani (talk) 19:45, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

I checked through the diffs without looking for intermediate edits, and got the wrong impression. My apologies. Still, big changes should be preceded by a close study of the talk page, and a note of explanation. Nishidani (talk) 19:48, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

What you think about Wexler is not important. You haven't read his 4 volumes either. Neil Jacobs has, and after expressing his deep appreciation for Wexler's stimulus in his Acknowledgements, and dedicated a good deal of attention to his work in his survey of Yiddish. I noted this to the page some years ago, and it's one of the things you really should have remembered, if only to remind me when I forget it.Nishidani (talk) 20:17, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Statement by Sir Joseph

The section of 1RR on Modern Hebrew should be struck-out. Modern Hebrew is not under 1RR or ARBPIA sanction. The use of this just seems to be a way to sanction an editor. Decisions should be based on articles under AE jurisdiction. Just being Hebrew or Jewish doesn't make it applicable to the ARBPIA arena. Sir Joseph 19:32, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

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Result concerning Monochrome Monitor

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• Monochrome Monitor, your statement is not in compliance with the 500 word rule and will not be considered unless you shorten it. Oncenawhile, your filing is a mess and difficult to read. Please trim it down and format it. You can just link to the block log if you want, for example—we don't need to see a copy/paste in addition to the link. --Laser brain (talk) 17:26, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Monochrome Monitor: You must add statements in only your own sections. Please move any comments and replies to your own sections. --Laser brain (talk) 20:31, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

HughD

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Request concerning HughD

User who is submitting this request for enforcement

Safehaven86 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 21:17, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested

HughD (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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Sanction or remedy to be enforced

"You are now banned from editing everything related to conservative US politics from 2009 to the present, broadly construed until August 28, 2016"

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

1. April 15 edits Institute for Energy Research, which he was warned for editing in a previous AE filing because it contains content on Koch brothers.
2. April 15 edits American Petroleum Institute, an article which contains information about conservative U.S. politics/advocacy/lobbying
3. April 15 Edit wars against consensus on API

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

1. Oct 11, 15 Violation of topic ban resulting in warning.
2. Oct 29, 15 1 week block for violation of ban. Appeal of block was rejected
3. Jan 7, 2016 1 week block for violation. Appeal of block was rejected

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• Previously blocked as a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict, see the block log linked to above.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

HughD currently has a broad topic ban in place that is supposed to prevent him from editing about conservative U.S. politics, 2009-present. The topic ban started out as a tea party/Koch brothers ban, but was broadened. HughD has been blocked multiple times for failure to comply with the ban. Today, he edited Institute for Energy Research, even though in a previous AE filing in October 2015, he apologized for editing that article in violation of his topic ban and got off with a warning. The diffs of complaints against and violations against HughD are too numerous to assemble. Suffice it to say, previous sanctions have clearly not worked. I think I speak for a large part of the community when I say we've lost our patience. I don't know what should be done, but I do know that the current topic ban is not working, and HughD is wasting a lot of peoples' time, and none of this is improving the encyclopedia. I even gave him a chance to self-revert today's violations, but he didn't take it. Instead, he attempted to badger me into explaining why I thought it was a topic ban violation. He'd already been warned by an admin for editing the very same article, for crying out loud. Maybe I should be posting this to ANI, I don't know, but something needs to be done. Safehaven86 (talk) 21:17, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

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Statement by HughD

No topic ban violation. The Institute for Energy Research is an explicitly non-political, non-partisan, non-profit, 501(c)(3) charity that conduct research into energy issues. (The earlier issue involving the Institute for Energy Research was under a earlier, Koch topic ban, since superseded.) The American Petroleum Institute is a similarly an explicitly non-political, non-partisan, non-profit, 501(c)(6) trade association. API advocates for its members on environmental regulation issues, not in favor of conservative American political agendas. The above reported diffs have to do with environmentalism, and have nothing to do with the Kochs or conservative American politics. Respectfully request close with no action. Thank you. Hugh (talk) 20:55, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

15:49 18 April 2016 More Springee campaigning. Hugh (talk) 20:55, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Statement by Springee

Because of my long and disagreeable history with HughD I'm not going to offer an opinion but I will note that HughD continues to edit American Petroleum Institute and the associated talk page including 4 reverts in 27 hours and continued abuse of the RfC postings by revising old arguments which didn't go his way. . Springee (talk) 20:42, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Hugh, as I understand it, Ricky81682 expanded the Koch related ban into the current ban. Springee (talk) 21:41, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

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Result concerning HughD

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• I see evidence here of breach of topic ban and am inclined to issue a two-week block. HughD, your statement is needed as to why you think you did not violate your topic ban. --Laser brain (talk) 21:13, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
• Seems very clear that he violated the ban, knew at least the one article was off limits based on the outcome of a previous AE. In fact, he continues to edit Talk:American Petroleum Institute instead of make any type of statement here. These aren't obvious articles, as far as the scope goes, but when I look at his edits (part of a 3rd revert war, it seems) and , I see a problem. That problem is that the edit's aren't focused on the core of the article, but instead, the political ramifications of the topic. That makes it pretty clear (when you consider the bias in the edits) that he is violating the topic ban, willingly, knowingly and as we speak. I would recommend extending the topic ban for another 6 months and a 30 day block, with the hope that would get the point across and serve to prevent future disruption. If one doesn't like the sanction, there is a system in place to appeal it (and I think it was already appealed unsuccessfully). That isn't a license to thumb your nose at the sanction itself. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 00:14, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

FreeatlastChitchat

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Request concerning FreeatlastChitchat

User who is submitting this request for enforcement

Volunteer Marek (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 18:03, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested

FreeatlastChitchat (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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Sanction or remedy to be enforced

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

1. 4/18/2016 A comment which compares editors who disagree with them to "Holocaust deniers". Obviously WP:BATTLEGROUND, obviously personal attack. A quite odious personal attack at that.
2. 4/18/2016 Response to request to strike the above mentioned PA. Some kind of unbacked accusation of meat puppetry or something. Even putting WP:ASPERSIONS aside, this speaks to the fact that the user has a battleground mentality and is WP:NOTHERE.
3. 4/18/2016 Doubles down on the personal attacks with further personal attacks and further accusations that other editors are equivalent to "Holocaust deniers"

Per this also it appears the user is under a 0RR restriction, which would mean that these edits and are a violation of it.

Note also previous misbehavior right here at WP:AE, as noted by User:Spartaz .

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

1. Blocked for a week for similar. Note closing admin's admonishment: "Imposition will depend on behaviour after return from block. Patience levels noticeably low so recommend keeping nose clean."

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Basically the user's whole talk page is a billboard for warnings and sanction notifications.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

1RR didn't work. One week block didn't work. 0RR didn't work. Unless the user dramatically changes their approach to editing it's time for a topic ban at the very least.Volunteer Marek (talk) 18:03, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

In response to SheriffsinTown's accusations (which are actually sanctionable as well since they fall under WP:ASPERSIONS) what I did is remove a whole bunch of POV text which looked like an attempt to turn the article into a WP:COATRACK. It's funny to be accused of "battleground" when I'm actually probably the one person on that article that is more or less uninvolved (I've edited it before in passing just in the course of my regular editing) and doesn't have a dog in this fight.Volunteer Marek (talk) 18:30, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh and Sheriff, can you point to exactly where "ARBPIA specifically prohibits such behavior"? Where does it do this "specifically"? And what behavior? I'm sorry but it looks like you're here just to support someone who shares your POV. And *that* would fall under WP:TAGTEAM.Volunteer Marek (talk) 18:32, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

I feel compelled to also point out that despite FreeatlastChitchat's comment, no one ever said that "Biharis were just killed in the process". Go to the article talk page. Press Ctrl-F, search for "killed in the process", all you find is FreeatlastChitchat making that false accusation.Volunteer Marek (talk) 18:52, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh, ffs. To those who are claiming that FreeatlastChitchat didn't accuse anyone of being a Holocaust denier - well, I guess you're right. He accused other editors of being the equivalent of Holocaust deniers. Which is what I said above in my statement (to quote myself: "compares editors who disagree with them to "Holocaust deniers"") . If you really think that makes it better than please, WP:WIKILAWYER to your hearts' content. Here is their statement:

"We have the same with Holocaust deniers ... So it is quite clear that some deniers are trying to whitewash the article by saying "oh, we cannot include biharis here even though they were killed in thousands". To these editors (genocide deniers) I ask only this".

Now obfuscate and battleground' onward.Volunteer Marek (talk) 21:20, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

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Statement by FreeatlastChitchat

I freely accept my comments. Any person denying a genocide should be compared with denying holocaust and he should not have any trouble with that. I specifically targeted the comment that During the atrocities thousands of Biharis were just "killed in the process" and that it was not a genocide. The internet is rife with sources which point to atrocities committed against Biharis and term it genocide so it's not a content dispute. This is 100% clear pov editing. Furthermore it is highly biased to sanction someone who denies holocaust but anyone can deny Bihari genocide and walk away scot free. We cannot even compare them to holocaust deniers because ofc biharis were just "killed in the process". To be frank if someone bans me , he should be kind enough to tell me how hundreds of thousands of people killed and raped just "get killed in the process" FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 18:11, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Statement by SheriffIsInTown

I suggest a WP:BOOMERANG as User:Volunteer Marek have been displaying battleground behavior which involved large-scale removal of sourced content from 1971 Bangladesh genocide and restoration of unsourced content. I am not sure what Misplaced Pages policies he is following to do all this. WP:ARBIPA specifically prohibits such battleground behavior. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:22, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Drmies: If you see comment by Freeatlast, he did not call Marek a "holocaust denier", he just mentioned in the context that if someone denies holocaust then they are banned for that then why it is so that if someone denies genocide against Biharis then they are not banned? I don't see any accusation or blame towards another editor and i do not see him calling another editor a "holocaust denier". Marek is taking it "out of context" here! Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:54, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
• @Volunteer Marek: Ghatus did say that "in that process some Biharis were killed". I am sure Freeatlast did not mean that you said it when he mentioned that. Please don't think that all replies are directed towards you, especially when multiple people are participating in a discussion. I think Freeatlast made a general statement about the whole discussion after seeing Ghatus's comment. You clearly don't think before you make an accusation. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 19:40, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Statement by Sir Joseph

Just a comment to clarify. I have no issue with the case or parties, but I don't think anyone called anyone a Holocaust denier. The statement was "we have the same with Holocaust deniers." In other words, the issue is similar to those who deny the Holocaust, not that anyone here is a HD. Sir Joseph 19:36, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Statement by TripWire

A simple glance at Freeatlast's comment will tell the reader that he did not call anyone "holocaust denier" nor did he display any WP:BATTLEGROUND behavior. So, that's that. But I am compelled to point out that the way VM is accusing everyone around him of WP:ASPERSION, he should be careful as he commonly violates this policy himself in routine:

• Accuses editors commenting on a RfC of tag-teaming despite the fact that OP invited editors on this RfC at "Notice board for Pakistan-related topics" diff

"And so far I don't see any un-involved editors (except perhaps myself), just the usual WP:TAGTEAM"

• Again call editors commenting against him at the RfC of being 'friends', implying that they are tag-teaming:

"That's why your and your friends' attempts at hijacking this article"

• Even casting aspersions right here at the AE board on editors for tag-teaming, even though all the editors are the same who were already involved in the RfC which caused this report:

"I'm sorry but it looks like you're here just to support someone who shares your POV. And *that* would fall under WP:TAGTEAM"

And before he accuses me of tag-teaming, I'd like to info that I am already involved at this board. A WP:BOOMERANG shall be in order here, I guess.—TripWire ︢ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︡ ︢ ︡   19:55, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Result concerning FreeatlastChitchat

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• Ah, FreeatlastChitchat--one of my favorite battleground editors. Marek, 0R was suggested but not imposed, it seems from the DS log. I think I already blocked FreeatlastChitchat once and I really don't want to do it again, but you can't go around calling someone a Holocaust denier; FreeatlastChitchat, you have been skating on thin ice for a while, and you shouldn't be surprised if you fall through it this time, though I for one will be sad to see it. But calling someone a Holocaust denier does no service to the victims of another genocide. Sheriff, if you want to bring Marek up on charges you will have to do so in a separate section--I doubt that this will go very far, though. Drmies (talk) 18:45, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
  • It's pretty clear that Freeatlast was suggesting that VM was to be included among the supposed collection of Holocaust deniers--and that comment itself, pace Tripwire's simple dismissal, is battleground editing. Drmies (talk) 22:14, 18 April 2016 (UTC)