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T-man ban

I took the liberty of recording your enactment of the 6-month ban on T-man at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Dyslexic Agnostic. Hope that's OK. It probably should be noted at AN/I as well, I suppose, but I'll leave that to you — I don't want to put words in your mouth. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:00, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I actually think it was routine, I had spoken to Tito and Shanel about the possibility before, and in any case, arbcom is not about to overturn its own ruling, so the discussion at AN/I would be rather pointless. Thanks for cleaning up after me and making the necessary log though. :) Dmcdevit·t 07:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I only mentioned AN/I because of the clause in the decision about T-man's probation, which says "a note must also be placed on AN/I", but I suppose that's about the probation rather than his six-month ban, which was put aside while the mentorship was tried. I didn't mean to be telling you how to do your job! :) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Ericsaindon2/Coolcaesar

I feel kinda iffy about putting up all those redirects for deletion (see Special:Contributions/10171990snow for the redirects) from Ericsaindon2's attempted renaming of that arbcom case. Moving the case pages would probably result in rapid reverts, so he just keeps editing the template to change the parameter to "Ericsaindon2/Coolcaesar" so it points to redirects. If the redirects go, its harder. Could you consider just deleting those redirects (they're sort of implausable typos for anyone but eric himself), else would you mind if I threw them up on RfD? Kevin_b_er 01:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

MSTCrow

While I (obviously) agree with you that there's enough troublesome behavior to warrant ArbCom action, a quick look at the ArbCom page tells me that you folks are already up to your eyeballs in work, so practically it may not be a good idea -- especially if, as seems likely to me, MSTCrow is on his way down the slippery slope to a community ban. Under the theory of "give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves", it won't take much more edit-warring, insults, pointless wikilawyering -- note his defense of Lingeron (talk · contribs) -- and occasional outright lies for him to alienate a critical mass of editors/admins, which would render ArbCom action moot.

Besides, if he's true to form, any ArbCom case involving him would be wikilawyered up the wazoo, all intended to prove that it's everyone else's fault. His blocks certainly haven't taught him a damned thing (I've been blocked twice, not five times, and both times the blocks were vindictive and not based on fact..., as he claimed on his talk page) and I kind of doubt ArbCom sanctions would do more than provide him a martyrdom issue, either.

We'll see, I guess. So far, no other ArbCom members have weighed in, and depending on how they feel, this may be moot. Note: Copied to Bishonen. --Calton | Talk 07:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Editor's Barnstar

The Editor's Barnstar I award Dmcdevit this barnstar for his efforts in clearing the Common duplicates from Misplaced Pages.Blnguyen | rant-line 02:01, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

My RfA and your vote

Hi Dmc, Thanks for participating in my RFA! Ultimately, no consensus was reached, but I still appreciate the fact that you showed up to add in your two cents. I thought about what you wrote. I've reached the conclusion that it is best to support a user in a time of crisis, but to not defend it if there is nothing to defend. You can feel free to talk to me about it or add some advice on my improvement page. Sincerely, The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me)

My comments on Ambuj.Saxena's RFA

Hello : - ) Sorry about questioning your wording. I'm annoyed at other users comments about English literacy. I was trying to make the point that our most experienced and trusted users do not always make the meaning of their comments perfectly clear. Take care, FloNight 17:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Arb case:Kehrli

I have been waiting patiently for some response by the committee regarding this arbitration case Kehrli. I do not mean to solicit but it seems necessary or even helpful to bring this to the attention of the committee members directly.

Thank you--Nick Y. 18:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Arb request extensively updated, including input by another editor and recent threats and administrator impersonation.--Nick Y. 18:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Ambuj's RfA

so what irritates me more are the garbled and grammarless netspeakers like, for example, Deon555, above

Retreived from WP:RfA#Ambuj.Saxena
Excuse me? --Deon555|talk|e 08:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject

Hi. In view of your recent remarks in a RfA, I thought that this WikiProject could interest you. Cheers, Redux 17:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Honest apology

Crossposted from Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for arbitration/Iloveminun/Proposed decision

Not to users: I don't know if this is the right place to state this, but I justthink its important you know this : I've stopped doing thesr things (about 1-2 weeks ago) and am making good edits, please ask a couple of other editors, particulary the ones who commented on my talk pahge (including the archives) and the Pokémon Collaborative Project. I am about to apologize to HighwayCello, im being truthful about this, so please read my contributions, cheers —Minun 18:43, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I apologized —Minun 19:01, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I think the best thing you can do is come back after your ban is over and try to work cooperatively with others next time. Dmcdevit·t 06:58, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

But a year is too long, i'd easily go on parole and probation, but a year is too long for someone who has stopped doing these things, perhaps we should discuss the matter. I also got a barnstar for growing into a posirtive way, so please see my talk page, chers —Minun 10:19, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

TuzsuzDeliBekir

Hi,

I'm pretty sure that 85.100.72.198 (talk · contribs) and 85.97.104.189 (talk · contribs) is TuzsuzDeliBekir. First off, the IPs are located in Adana, his hometown and where he currently goes to university. Secondly, you'll notice that 85.100.72.198 only has 3 edits but somehow doesn't think too highly of me (and before I reverted him on the Malatya and Trabzon articles, too). Should those two articles be semi-protected? I recall that TuzsuzDeliBekir used to log out after he was blocked as he had a dynamic IP, which makes me even more sure that it's him. —Khoikhoi 07:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Which diffs?

Dmcdevit, there is some uncertainly in the H.E. ArbCom case as to which diffs you'd referred in recommending I'd be sanctioned, as you'd only cited "evidence". I disagree with your proposed finding, but have little hope of speaking to all the diffs put forth in "evidence" in the requisite time. On talk, it's centered on Muhammad, but for my part I'm not certain from your statement that this is the subject to which you'd referred. It'd help me address your concerns if you could be more specific.Timothy Usher 08:33, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Note: I'm not ignoring you, I just got caught up today. I'll make sure to put specific diffs into the finding tomorrow. Dmcdevit·t 07:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Also, I've been apprised that Tony Sidaway is on break. Can I ask if you'd received the e-mail I'd sent him?Timothy Usher 07:31, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your post. I'll take a look.Timothy Usher 07:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, yes, your first email has gone through to all the arbitrators via the mailing list. Dmcdevit·t 07:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I've created this subpage of my user talk page for your, and other editors', review. Comments are appreciated.Timothy Usher 09:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Ya know

I wonder sometimes why I bother. --Woohookitty 12:15, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I know. It's just frustrating. I must say though, I am grateful that Penny slipped up. :) I had no inkling it was her until that last post on the Halle Berry talk page. The part where she mentioned that there is no source because Berry never said it was the dead giveaway. But yeah. Me leave? Nah. I think the most I've gone without an edit in my 20 months here is about 2 days. Just gets frustrating after awhile. And they never just take their block nicely. Ever. --Woohookitty 04:11, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Joshua Z just reverted a post she made to this very page. God I love trolls. --Woohookitty 04:04, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Looks like she has stopped for now. --Woohookitty 05:53, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

My Recall

Hello. Your response here will be appreciated. Thanks. - CrazyRussian talk/email 16:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

It's open season! lol

Be still my heart. lol --Woohookitty 20:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Gibraltarian's been getting worse lately, yes. Take a look at Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for arbitration, too. The only solution I can think of right now is dealing with the ISP or waiting it out... Dmcdevit·t 20:50, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

M/z dispute

Hi Dmcdevit, I wonder what made you vote against me on this issue? I still think that I am defending the official notation and that Nick is defending a minority POV. Could you give me some hint where, you think, I am wrong in this issue? --Kehrli 11:45, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Tangotango/Sandbox

Indeed, I only looked in Category:Fair use images this time. I'll talk to you later if I catch you online about the bot. Cheers, Tangotango 04:53, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Timothy Usher placed on Probation

Dmcdevit, Just thought you may haven't seen Timothy's defence here. --Aminz 07:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

The his excellency case

I brought this up with Fred as well. Just making sure I get the ear of a couple of arbcom members. :) I am wondering if you and the arbcom can clarify something on the proposed decisions page. Do these sanctions cover just the His excellency account or do they cover the His excellency account and the previous account that the user edited under? Otherwise, I'm afraid of H.E. simply switching accounts. What's on the page now is not clear. --Woohookitty 19:52, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Adminship

Well, I have been thinking about your (second) offer to nominate me for admin status. I accept. I suppose it is time, and I do want to be of more help to Misplaced Pages. However, this is probably my busiest time of year. In addition to work, and teaching, I will be away from home on family business/activities for almost all of September. So, can we target the nomination for the 2nd week in October, or so? And I would appreciate any advice you might have? Thanks for your interest. WBardwin 00:57, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

That's fine by me. I won't have reliable internet access for a few more days until I'm all moved in, so I'll talk to you more then. :-) Dmcdevit·t 19:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Appeal

I come here not to tell you that your statement in response is a load of hogwash (although it is) but that you ought to have recused. David | Talk 13:16, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Well that's a new tactic. And why is that? Dmcdevit·t 18:59, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Questionable comment on your part

I take exception to your mischaracterization as to my purported involvement and conduct, and am seeking for you to provide actual evidence to that effect so that others be able to verify your claims; that is, beyond the realm of speculation & superficial appearences. I fear you might be inadvertantly absuing your role as arbitrator, so perhaps a more substantive explanation on your part is due. El_C 13:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Um. Huh? How does "I am not sure you are " purport anything? You demand I provide evidence of my uncertainty? Sorry, but that was a good suggestion: enforcement should only be done by uninvolved admins, and I'm not sure if you are (and your attitude doesn't particularly motivate me to look more closely). How about you tone down the misplaced hostility. Dmcdevit·t 19:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

It would be useful for you to actually review the material you are commenting on; if you question my involvement, please offer something substantive, or it comes accross as misplaced hostility and disrespect for my tired efforts in dealing with this abusive user. El_C 20:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure whether you are involved or not. That is a basic declarative sentence which does not question anything. I was just giving you a straightforward answer to the question posed. Your accusations and assumptions of my meaning, frankly, don't make any sense. Dmcdevit·t 02:47, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Tis unfortunate you did not find it fit to find out; I suppose declerative speculations are easier as they do not involve any effort. El_C 05:01, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I am speaking plainly. There is no speculation involved, as I made clear; you are just playing with words because for some reason you have animosity towards either me or the Arbitration Committee as a whole or both. It isn't welcome. The courtesy of answering your question as posed, even if I didn't perform any further research, was clearly wasted. Dmcdevit·t 21:50, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Plainly or otherwise, you are continuing to speculate and it is not welcomed. While I appreciate you answering the question, I take exception to the speculations and the innuendo. I think I deserve more support than that from you. El_C 06:46, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't matter how much you want it to be, I haven't. I'm done with this useless discussion. (In case you didn't notice, I gave you good advice on how to deal with Zeq, namely, to put the issue to ANI if a ban doesn't fit into arbcom's ruling.) Dmcdevit·t 07:05, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I've asked another arbitrator to discuss the matter with you, and I'll refractor the comment you removed (discourtesy, I find) on his talk page. Feel free to remove this one. I will not attempt to speak to you again. El_C 08:29, 26 August 2006 (UTC)