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Revision as of 13:04, 1 January 2017 by Bulldog123 (talk | contribs) (→Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)Hey Bulldog. In answer to your question about sourcing Sid Haig's ethnicity, I told you to go to his site and join and ask him yourself. It's also in interviews and his last name is "Mosesian". Some Nazi deleted it. Anyway, there's your answer, as best as I can see it. Cheers. 76.89.232.168 (talk) 06:55, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
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Re: removal of source material/restoration of unsourced material
The sourced material I removed was added by an anonymous IP who included two rather sneering messages with his edits. The source that user added was a fansite-hosted PDF file of collected quotations (the quotation in question wasn't very well-referenced within that file, only providing the title "10 Questions for Joss Whedon"). I responded to that user's "Absolutely nothing suggesting that" edit summary comment by restoring the previous phrasing but this time with a more thorough reference.
I admit that in the process of reverting the paragraph back to its previous phrasing, as a side-effect I also restored the the first, unsourced, part of the sentence (the "born Jewish" assertion with the {{fact}} tags). Yes, I should have been bold enough to go ahead and remove it myself - if I'd checked, I'd have realised that it was a very recent addition to the article added by this anon user who seems to specialise in claiming that various people are Jewish. If I'd realised that, I would have removed it. But in the end, mentioning the lack of references in my edit summary was as far as I went.
(Having said all that, looking at the article again just now, I realised that I'd been distracted by the recent edits' focus on the start of the article and had forgotten that there's a whole "Spiritual and philosophical beliefs" section discussing the whole thing more thoroughly. It was entirely unnecessary for beliefs to be mentioned and disputed in the "Early life" section in the first place!) --Nick R 00:32, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
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Request reason:
Please double check the page. I did not violate the three-revert rule because I never reverted to the same version three times. Each edit was different. Thanks and I understand that it looked that way so I don't blame you for blocking me without checking. Bulldog123 04:02, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
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You need to read WP:3RR again. It doesn't matter if it wasn't the same version. --jpgordon 04:47, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
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My 3RR was justified per: "Removing violations of the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy that contain libelous, biased, unsourced, or poorly sourced contentious material." Users are using wording that is borderline libelous, but don't care because the biography is of someone they consider contemptible. See for yourself on Richard Spencer. Bulldog123 09:12, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
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Immediately after your prior block for edit-warring, you resumed. This time around, you need to show you achieved consensus, but that's not the case. After looking into the edits, I don't believe this is a BLP violation in this specific case. Note that I have no idea who this person is. Apart from reviewing unblock requests, I have never heard of him before. Yamla (talk) 14:50, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Misplaced Pages isn't run on consensus without sources. I already explained what the problem is. Conflating one thing and saying its the other doesn't work. You can continue to ignore it, but in that case I will engage in the slow edit war to protect the truth. Bulldog123 02:08, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- There are numerous sources, which you appear to be ignoring and then claiming they don't exist. Misplaced Pages isn't run on an editor claiming that "up is down" and "east is west". Rockypedia (talk) 02:36, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages isn't run on consensus without sources. I already explained what the problem is. Conflating one thing and saying its the other doesn't work. You can continue to ignore it, but in that case I will engage in the slow edit war to protect the truth. Bulldog123 02:08, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Since you've chosen to continue editing warring on the same article, I have blocked this account again. Unfortunately, since you have explicitly promised to continue violating our edit warring policy going forward, I have blocked this account indefinitely. Kuru (talk) 03:44, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
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Uh, dude, you're totally overstepping. I said I'd provide the editors a chance to provide sources for their claims on a WP:BLP where there's a clear lack of WP:NEUTRALITY on the subject matter. I wasn't engaging in any disruptive edit war, and it's perfectly within my right as an editor to make changes I see as being against Misplaced Pages policy. You're being trigger-happy here. Bulldog123 14:56, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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It is most definitely not within your right to edit war to make disputed changes you see as being against Misplaced Pages policy (except for a few explicit and unambiguous exceptions, which are not met here), and you do not get to impose your own conditions on other editors. This is your third block for edit warring, yet you still do not appear to have understood what you are doing wrong. You will not be unblocked until you can make a convincing case that you do understand and that you will change your approach to editing - and that includes your dropping of your insistence that you "...will engage in the slow edit war to protect the truth". Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:25, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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Request reason:
What exactly did I do to justify a ban? Ban me after the fact if I prove to be disruptive. These pre-emptive strikes reek of partisanship. Bulldog123 00:45, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
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This is your third block for edit warring. That's what you did. Further unblock requests that do not directly address the reason for your block will result in talkpage access being revoked. SQL 03:30, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
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- This seems to be explained above; you have edited disruptively and you have been blocked for it. Since you've promised to continue the problematic behavior, you'll need to convince someone that the behavior will change. You will also need to stop evading your block and editing logged out, please. That does not help your case. Kuru (talk) 00:56, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- This is why this your ban is hard to take seriously. .Firstly, you're asking me to get on my hands and knees and beg you for an unblock. I've been an editor on Misplaced Pages for a decade. I'm not going to kiss the ring of some dude who decided to be a hero. You full well know this ban is overkill and (possibly) politically-motivated. Secondly, you're now outright accusing me of evading a block by editing while logged out... with zero evidence. Please cite the examples of me editing while logged out since this block please. Back up what you claim. (I know you guys intentionally don't do that on articles you disagree with politically, but at least stick to your principles as administrators and don't hurl accusations you can't back up) Bulldog123 13:20, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- To be perfectly clear, you have not been editing with an IP since your block? Kuru (talk) 17:20, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Dude, I couldn't even edit with a naked IP address even if I wanted to since my block. I only have one IP address, it's not dynamic (or at least it doesn't seem to change much), and you blocked it. Whoever you think is me, isn't. Bulldog123 03:13, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- This IP wan't you? That seems unlikely. The same IP waited out the IP autoblock and continued the long-term edit war you've been playing with at Bulgarians well after this account was blocked. Kuru (talk) 06:24, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, obviously that was me. What's your point? I'm not purposely evading a ban there if I sign my name afterwards. And if I made some minor edits off an IP address before realizing I was perma-banned, that's not exactly "maliciously evading a ban" either. We don't always remember to sign in. And yes, I don't exclusively go online from my house, and I expect you don't either. I work at a school with wifi so obviously I'm using frequently-shared IP addresses. I'm sure hundreds of people edit Misplaced Pages from this school. But whatever --- if you want to pin some stuff from an old IP address to justify a ban, okay, do whatever you need. Bulldog123 12:47, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- This IP wan't you? That seems unlikely. The same IP waited out the IP autoblock and continued the long-term edit war you've been playing with at Bulgarians well after this account was blocked. Kuru (talk) 06:24, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Dude, I couldn't even edit with a naked IP address even if I wanted to since my block. I only have one IP address, it's not dynamic (or at least it doesn't seem to change much), and you blocked it. Whoever you think is me, isn't. Bulldog123 03:13, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- To be perfectly clear, you have not been editing with an IP since your block? Kuru (talk) 17:20, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- This is why this your ban is hard to take seriously. .Firstly, you're asking me to get on my hands and knees and beg you for an unblock. I've been an editor on Misplaced Pages for a decade. I'm not going to kiss the ring of some dude who decided to be a hero. You full well know this ban is overkill and (possibly) politically-motivated. Secondly, you're now outright accusing me of evading a block by editing while logged out... with zero evidence. Please cite the examples of me editing while logged out since this block please. Back up what you claim. (I know you guys intentionally don't do that on articles you disagree with politically, but at least stick to your principles as administrators and don't hurl accusations you can't back up) Bulldog123 13:20, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Look, 3 different admins have blocked you for edit warring - and 4 other different admins have tried to explain that your blocks are due to edit warring - and that's just recently. You have been repeatedly warned that this is where behavior of this sort will lead. Perhaps it's time to consider that this isn't just some massive politically motivated conspiracy, and maybe you're just breaking the rules here? SQL 03:59, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- I've been editting Misplaced Pages for a decade and have engaged in many debates on controversial topics. Many of these debates included what you would consider "edit wars" because I refused to allow the dessimation of information that is patently false (especially on WP:BLP articles). Yet, I get a pre-emptive perma-ban the second I start challenging the blatant orthodoxy on display at the highly controversial and political Richard Spencer article. What a coincidence!
- You're right hough. It's not a conspiracy, because conspiracies are not this transparent, but it is obviously political. The easiest thing would be to change the wording to more accurately reflect reliable sources. But, hey, that doesn't support the narrative Misplaced Pages wants to promulgate, so I guess permabans for anyone not towing the line are way easier than justifying the diction. Bulldog123 12:52, 1 January 2017 (UTC)