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With Malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wikipedia's wounds, and emerge as Better than the Best. You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. The whole problem with the world wikipedia is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wise people so full of doubts.
It wasn't vandalism - Misplaced Pages says be bold - I am a new user and meant to press sandbox Misplaced Pages says give new users a chance dude - so thank you but unecessary if you waited four seconds i changed it and went back to sandbox. Undestand that even though it is a polemic issue does not give you a right to issue a final warning vandalism note. Thanks!(Smiles and kisses)203.206.26.16000:58, 17 September 2006 (UTC)Eloise
Copied from that IP's page: I understand your concern: . I was not over zealous, but acting in response to an edit by you. Yes, wikipedia says Be Bold, but it also says do not be reckless. Moreover, it also says follow no rule which I was obliged to follow as your edit looked like vandalism, as you had changed the page name. Your knowledge of processes and procedures of wikipedia indicates that you are not very new to wikipedia: please register a user name if you do not have any, unless you want to land yourself in difficulties as you just faced. The warning shall continue to warn any other users who may be editing from this IP address anonymously. Cheers. (Smiles and kisses) and hugs too. --Bhadani01:25, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Bhadani, could you semi-protect this page, as well as September 12, and 10. If that is not possible I understand. However, there is a sockpuppet who has voted multiple times, was blocked, and he keeps removing the notices that he is a sockpuppet, by using what I strongly suspect are new sockpuppet accounts. Your help is greatly appreciated. --BostonMA02:13, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
These pages are highly visible pages, and no nonsense may continue unnoticed long by others. In case, some one is really a sockpuppet, he/shall gets exposed sooner than later. I think protecting pages would serve no purpose. If some one is removing comments, he shall be treated as a vandal. Please do not worry much. Reply copied from BostonMA's page. --Bhadani 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Bhadani, it's silly to scold Dbachmann for remarks made nearly a year ago. Did you even notice the date? He was tired, he was cranky, and even though you're probably going to decide that I'm a bigot too, I think he had a point. There are people editing Misplaced Pages who have little education and great hatreds. As he says, they can't be greatly blamed for either, but it is wearisome dealing with the results. To keep WP stable, we're going to have to civilize and educate the whole human race -- or at least the portion of it with net access. That's why people get cranky, take wiki-breaks, or give up. Read this much-copied article , have a laugh, and relax. Zora03:36, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Sorry to butt-in here, but actually, Bachmann is wrong on 2 counts: 1)there is no "ethnic conflict" in India. (There may be some religious riots, but they are not happening everywhere) 2) The Indians whom he has encountered are angry because of injustice perpetrated upon them, which does not actually amount to hate, but who cares for them anyway? So I feel on account of his valuable contributions towards articles relating to Hinduism and related fields, he must be let off but with a warning. →Talk08:43, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Bhadani. I agree with Babub that DBachmann has made many valuable contributions, and hence should not be banned for his comments (which as Zora points out were made some time ago). I am quite willing to accept Zora's opinion that the comments were made while DBachmann was tired, or DBachmann's own comments that he intended no offence. However, what I found very sad in DBachmann's behavior, even more than the comments themselves, was his unwillingness to accept that these comments might be offensive, even if he did not intend to be offensive, and to take responsibility for any such (possibly unintentional) offensiveness. --BostonMA13:35, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Dbachmann, hates Hindus. In fact, I'm surprised to the lengths some Indian users support him. I found Blnguyen to be the only admin who took correct action against dab, by thwarting him on ANI, and backing myself and Bharatveer up. Look at some nice diffs and conversations I had with dab - - - - - - --BakamanBakatalk16:33, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Bhadani, I am trying hard to AGF here, but I trust you are aware of the history of this? Try to do some research and find out what has been said about this. If, otoh, you are just trying to get my goat, this is an exceptionally poor attempt at trolling. And, I would prefer to speak for myself regarding things I "hate". Not India, or Hindus, to be sure. I have nothing but contempt for militant nationalism, it is true, and I am genuinely saddened to see Hindus represented by the likes of "Bakasuprman" and "Bharatveer". dab(ᛏ)10:56, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
No comments. I do not care about you AGF or bad faith. I no longer care for you and shall not talk with you unless it becomes necessary to protect the integrity of the Project. --Bhadani13:15, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
I denounce the personal attacks by dab against two users named by him. Really, unbecoming of a serious administrator and wikipedian. I was not aware that we have denegerated to such a low level of personal interaction. --Bhadani13:29, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Dab, you must AGF here. Having known both of you, let me say that Bhadani is a valuable contributor and is not a troll by any length. Bhadaniji, let me assure you that I know the circumstances under which Dab uttered the oft-quoted piece of text and that he's definitely NOT against Indians or Hindus. He's a valuable contributor to Sanskrit and Veda-related articles and extremely knowledgeable on those subjects. Just that he gets weary often due to newbies coming in and raking up the same-old issues repeatedly (it's not their fault either). Add the cultural and linguistic differences between him and us, his comments sound rude. Please AGF on him. -- Sundar16:13, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Sundar, I have always respected you. I still continue to keep you in high reverence. However, I can not compromise my identity as a citizen of India. I would rather follow A P J Kalam, and would wish to say a final goodbye to wikipedia than to talk with dab. If an administrator like dab can not deal with new wikipedians (he gets weary often due to newbies coming in and raking up the same-old issues repeatedly), he should surrender his administrators tools. However, I shall continue here, as persons like dab (who has lost all my trust and respect) can not force me to say goodbye to wikipedia. I am here with a mission: to contribute to realize the objectives of the dream of Jimbo Wales (the founder and the president of the Wikimedia Foundation) and his team, and shoutings by certain elements would not deter me to stop being a volunteer here. Sundar, in case you feel hurt, I regret. In fact, at the suggestion of Zora, I had posted a message on the page of dab that the matter was closed as far as I was concerned. However, he landed on my page and opened the closed matter. This is really sad, and I am not presuming that he has an ego bigger than most of us. One may have built the entire wikipedia, but by doing this he does not get right to sanction a nation of 100000000 people. --Bhadani16:41, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Bhadaniji, I am sorry to have attacked you. I didn't know you are such a good person. I was really pissed off when you went against me sometime ago. I won't tell you what, when and how, since you will know about me then. But that's the only reason why I personally attacked you. I offer my heartiest apologies. I hope you will forgive me. I admit that Kiran Parmar, the "Bhadva" series users and Jigar Nahta were all my sockpuppets. But Miko Solomon wasn't my sockpuppet. I don't know who it is. But I assure you I will stop my personal attacks from now on. I hope you will forgive me.
P.S. - You can block this account as I already have another account.
I never cared for all which you claim to have done. I do not care at all for such things: I am here with a mission to continue to contribute to the best of my abilities to make the Project better. I do not imply that you also did to the best of your abilities to make the Project degenerate to the lowest possible levels. There are vandals more intelligent than you! I am replying for the sake of good order only. --Bhadani13:11, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I never forgot the call. I shall call you right now, if you are free. But, I shall be calling from a landline number which you should keep with you only. Please message me on my talk page. I shall call you at the number you called me few days before on 12.09.06. Ok. --Bhadani13:35, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Please reply to my messages where I make them, as I like to keep my messages in one fine string so that they are all visible without any difficulty to any outsider. Its a part of Wikiquette. ;) --Nearly Headless Nick13:40, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello Bhadani. Well it has been a year since you became an Admin. You are a wonderful contributor, one of the best we have, which is proven in the contributions log, despite what anybody else or the general populace may think. Take care, Blnguyen | BLabberiNg03:01, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
How are you ? Well, I have just created an article yesterday. Here it is - Bal Gangadhar Tilak and Historiography. It's quite a long article and I feel that it should be put on the main page in the "Did You Know" section. I don't know much about how to do it though. I have created a lot of new articles, but really none of them really got to the DYK consideration. Can you tell me how can I go about it ? --NRS16:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
I went to the article with the intention of helping but its an obvious copyvio from . I am putting it up for speedy deletion. NRS, if you are interested in recreating the article, I can work with you to help it reach DYK. Dont worry, it doesnt have to be large, just relevant. Regards -- Lost18:19, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
You please do as you wish. In my opinion, a copyvio should first be deleted, and then recreated without the elements of copyvio. --Bhadani18:23, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
For sticking up for the little man in the discussion above. I felt like I saw an actual Indian(as in Indian administrator) for the first time.BakamanBakatalk02:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
