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Isaw (talk) 16:53, 12 March 2018 (UTC)Please indicate how the edit violate NPOV since I clearly source both Warners views and independent experts views on Warner. Please indicate how Southern Poverty Law Center is a reliable source and using the same criteria Canadian Citizens For Charter Rights And Freedoms is not a reliable source?


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Isaw (talk) 17:17, 12 March 2018 (UTC) My revision of an article have been del;eted by another user. AS far as I can see my references do not violate NPOV as suggested by the other user and the sources I use are a respected and reliable as the sources that user quotes

Why for example is Canadian Citizens For Charter Rights And Freedoms ( CCCRF) not a reliable souorce? of " facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media. " as user Drmies suggests Members of CCCRF come from many religious and ethnic communities and many have long histories as human rights advocates. The group supports the rule of law in accordance with Canadian traditions and strives to ensure freedom of expression and the equality rights of women and the LGBT community. They specifically came topgether to address aspects of political Islam which is the subject which Bill Warner addresses.

2. Why is Bill Warner edited back to calling him "Anti Islam" equating him with with anti-Muslim, anti-Jewish, or anti LGBT type hate speech? Especially when no reference is given to what warner actually says which is anti Islam. the only source used is the Southern Poverty Law centre In October 2016, the SPLC published a list of "anti-Muslim extremists", including British activist Maajid Nawaz and ex-Muslim activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali. The SPLC said that Nawaz appeared to be "more interested in self-promotion and money than in any particular ideological dispute", identified what it said were gaps and inconsistencies in his backstory, rebuking his assertion that British universities had been infiltrated by radical Islamists. Nawaz, who identifies as a "liberal, reform Muslim", denounced the listing as a "smear", saying that the SPLC listing had made him a target of jihadists

In 1994 the Montgomery Advertiser published an eight-part critical report on the SPLC, saying that it exaggerated the threat posed by the Klan and similar groups in order to raise money, discriminated against black employees, and used misleading fundraising tactics. The SPLC dismissed the series as a "hatchet job". SPLC's co-founder Joe Levin stated: "The Advertiser's lack of interest in the center's programs and its obsessive interest in the center's financial affairs and Mr. Dees' personal life makes it obvious to me that the Advertiser simply wants to smear the center and Mr. Dees. The series was nominated for a 1995 Pulitzer Prize in Explanatory Journalism. Despite an SPLC campaign against the nomination the series was one of three finalists.

An additional reference http://www.islamophobia.org/islamophobic-organizations/175-center-for-the-study-of-political-islam.html

quotes  “Let me be clear: I do hate Islam." He has also stated, "I hate a doctrine that is found in the Quran, Allah, the Seerah, Mohammed’s biography, the Hadith, his traditions. I hate the Islam that is found in that."

But the video supplied clearly indicates Warner opposes the IDEOLOGY of Islam that imposes on non Muslims and not the muslims themselves. He clearly says he does not hate muslims but the parts of Islam which are against Human rights as understood by Western Judaeo/chriostian society



  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Bill_Warner_(Political_Islam)&diff=prev&oldid=829968175
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