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You are an MJ fan (as I can see from your Twitter account). You are accusing me of "disruptive edits" and "unconstructive edits" with absolutely zero basis. You are purposely removing my edits to avoid the full truth being shown. Are you going to delete everything that anyone writes that shows balance or can only MJ fans write their version of events? If so I will have to take this up with Misplaced Pages Jude1313 (talk) 18:45, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
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Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did on 1993 child sexual abuse accusations against Michael Jackson. This violates Misplaced Pages's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Akhiljaxxn (talk) 12:54, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
BIAS and SPIN in Section Allegations
Excuse me? The whole statement is currently unsourced. The statement I added is from the illegal recording by Anthony Pellicano. You can hear Evan Chandler state what I added in a YT video titled "Proof that Evan Chandler was not trying to Extort Michael Jackson" by Prime Media and Evan is HEARD saying "I love him (Jordan) so much that I'm willing to destroy my own life to protect him" Why on earth have you removed it? At the moment the snippets shown are cherry picked to make Evan Chandler look like an extortionist (as Pellicano attempted (and failed) to do) and does not give the fair picture of the full recording. There is EXTREME MJ innocent BIAS and SPIN in this whole page Jude1313 (talk) 13:35, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Jude1313, I've added back the quote in question, but the full quote this time. (Chandler was not referring to Jackson. It was all about June Chandler Schwartz and Dave Schwartz.) Israell (talk) 18:52, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Israell You state FALSELY "Chandler was not referring to Jackson. It was all about June Chandler". Evan SPECIFICALLY refers to Michael Jackson in that call!!! Evan Chandler --->" "only goal is right now I have to do what I think is best for Jordy", "bottom line to me is, yes, June is harming him, & MICHAEL JACKSON is harming him. I can prove that & I will prove that" "I love him (JC) so much that I’m willing to destroy my own life to protect him." Why on earth do you think the conversation is not about MJ as well as June? Have you not read the full transcript? Jude1313 (talk) 02:56, 7 November 2019 (UTC))
BIAS and SPIN in Section Allegations
Well glad it has been added. I will add a source to the full transcribed tape so Wiki users can read it themselves and not some MJ fan/Pellicano version of events. It is still heavily BIASED Jude1313 (talk) 20:00, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
WP:Reliable sources
Jude1313, make sure you stick to WP:Reliable sources, not WP:Self-published sources. For example, the "Relections on the Dance" source you've used in the Evan Chandler article is not a WP:Reliable source. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:22, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Flyer22, yes it is very difficult as all the Michael Jackson pages are under tremdendous attack by Michael Jackson fans/MJ Estate paid writers adding bias and misinformation to the pages. I am simply here trying to add balance (I am an attorney). The full transcript of the Chandler/Schwartz tapes is critical as MJ fans constantly quote convict Anthony Pellicano's splicing of the tapes which was done to make Evan Chandler appear an extortionist - the full transcript shows otherwise. Pellicano himself has since told reporters MJ was worse than a pedophile. Pellicano only worked the Chandler case so he is saying clearly there was no extortion and Jordy's accusations of molestation were true. MJ fans continuously add Pellicano's splicing - it is TEDIOUS. Jude1313 (talk) 02:49, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- I WP:Indented your post. I know that "all the Michael Jackson pages are under tremdendous attack by Michael Jackson fans." See what I stated here and here on my talk page. I'm not sure if "MJ Estate paid writers" are involved. The point regarding my above post to you is that you still need to only use sources that pass the WP:Reliable sources guideline and that you need to stick to what the sources state. Do not editorialize. On Misplaced Pages, "balance" means following WP:Due weight; see WP:Due weight and its subsections. Please read and study the rules I've pointed you to. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:09, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Quite honestly, User:Jude1313, you come here to deface what User:Flyer 22 Reborn, myself, and others are attempting to balance ourselves. We don't agree on everything, but we do find some common ground. As stated, you have got to use credible sources. When one decides to move their tinfoil hat, they would conclude that if the big bad Michael Jackson Estate was paying editors to come to edit WP, things would be a lot rosier than they are. Let's take a look in the mirror before you start accusing people of getting paid to edit WP. You clearly said above that you have a youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NRowSJ6pSg&t=1s, one dedicated to proving, and fails at doing so, Jackson's guilt. The fact is that Jackson has an entire cult of pedophile fantasists who have dedicated their lives to convince others that he was guilty, recreating narratives that have no supporting facts or evidence in the process, and desires so badly that children have been abused even though due process was served. With unsubstantiated claims like "quote convict Anthony Pellicano's splicing of the tapes which was done to make Evan Chandler appear an extortionist - the full transcript shows otherwise," it's hard to tell you apart from the camp described above. Furthermore, you are wrong, the full transcript does not prove otherwise. It proves nothing. Extortion was on the table and will continue to be on the table. The Chandlers had a chance to prove otherwise, but they chose not to pursue a criminal trial when an opportunity for justice presented itself, TWICE and for a long period of time! TruthGuardians (talk) 04:06, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
TruthGuardians WOW DISGRACEFUL comments and you 100% prove my point!! Plus deliver AD HOMINEMS & LIES right there!!! Who on earthn do you think you are? "you come here to deface what User:Flyer 22 Reborn, myself, and others". I CORRECT INACCURACIES whomever the USER. "You clearly said above that you have a youtube channel" I DO NOT HAVE a YouTube Chennel and have NEVER stated I have a YouTube Channel! THAT IS A LIE "The fact is that Jackson has an entire cult of pedophile fantasists" GOOD GRIEF You call people who defend MJ'S alleged victims PEDOPHILE FANTASISTS???????????????? HOW DARE YOU!! DO NOT CONTCAT ME AGAIN OR I WILL REPORT YOU FOR HARASSMENT.Jude1313 (talk) 09:04, 7 November 2019 (UTC)