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This is essentially propaganda

It's really a disappointment to find how biased this article is. It fails to document the many negative experiences of families who have member lost to the group, which has aspects of a cult including paranoia toward critics and beliefs with no reasonable basis in reality. It also presents the group as benign when it is well-known to promote zealotry in it's members and is, itself, a group that denies human rights of other people who have different belief or life-styles. Lastly, it fails to discuss the group's ties to Right Wing political movements including the use of the Epoch Times to engage in political influence.

It is not my place to change the article since that would doubtless start an undesirable situation where proponents of the movement battle to control the content as often happens on Misplaced Pages. That would not be productive. Therefore, I only offer my basic criticisms here for reasonable people to consider and as a warning of the nature of the article as propaganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Xiao-zi (talk • contribs)

Thanks for your comment. Some of it would fit in the "Speculation on rationale" section I think. RhinoMind (talk) 19:07, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Missing important information

Inconvenient information has been "accidentally" left out, making for a biased article:

Links with far-right propaganda networks:

 - https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-qanon-impending-judgment-day-behind-facebook-fueled-rise-epoch-n1044121
 - https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/columnists/kiff-disproportionate-funding-goes-to-media-outlet-linked-to-falun-gong

Concerns over practitioners refusal to medical treatment:

 - https://www.culteducation.com/group/1254-falun-gong/6789-more-falun-gong-followers-die-after-refusing-medical-treatment.html 
 - https://www.jstor.org/stable/26671407

The cult claims that modern technology was given to humanity by aliens: https://falundafa.org/eng/eng/lectures/19980530L.html
The cult claims that homosexuality is Satan's plan to undermine capitalism: https://www.theepochtimes.com/how-the-specter-of-communism-is-ruling-our-world-introduction_2547882.html
The cult claims that race-mixing generates children without soul: https://falundafa.org/eng/eng/lectures/19961012L.html
Listing in The Cult Education Institute: https://www.culteducation.com/group/1254-falun-gong/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcelof01 (talk • contribs) 07:02, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Court case in Spain

The section on the Court case in Spain is outdated. The court case it mentions was dismissed by the Audiencia Nacional since it lacked jurisdiction. A second case was also dismissed and it is currently on a Supreme Court appeal stage. --MarioGom (talk) 07:33, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

References

"El Supremo estudia el martes una querella de Falun Gong contra China por genocidio que rechazó la Audiencia Nacional". La Vanguardia (in Spanish). 7 July 2019. Retrieved 8 October 2019.

Duplication in Critcism section

The first three paragraphs of the Criticism section are almost verbatim repeated under the subheading Cult of Personality. The section probably needs a once over and incorporation of some additional notable critiques to capture the full range of discussion, especially given the length of the article as a whole, but I understand this is controversial. Ffe9 (talk) 05:10, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out, fixed Helloimahumanbeing (talk) 18:05, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Use of Epoch Times as a source?

Considering the Epoch Times is known to be strongly associated with the Falun Gong itself and considered to have significant bias regardless, is using it as a source of information in this article at all advisable? The body itself doesn't particularly clarify upon this point, and the phrasing somewhat implies that the information cited should be taken as given. --Kawdek (talk) 01:50, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

This article also uses Minghui.org, Falun Gong's own public teaching website as source. The research papers/reports cited in the article are either sponsored by Falun Dafa, or involved by them. The source of information is exatrmely speculative and secretive. Unfortunately, removing or editing on this page may result in unwanted battle and fight from Falun Gong members who use wikipeida. --Loned (talk) 13: 24, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

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