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Hello to all fellow Wikipedians. GoodDay 22:40, 17 November 2005 (UTC).

This user has been on Misplaced Pages for 19 years, 1 month and 13 days.

You may be wondering why my archives only start at August 2007. The reason: I didn't archive my pages before that date, I merely deleted them (as I didn't know how to archive). Therefore, if anyone wishes to see material before August 2007? check out this talkpage's 'history'.

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Mentor

Ready to volunteer? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:58, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Not me, but there's gotta be somebody out there with both the compassion & ability. GoodDay (talk) 13:59, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

(sigh) That's a long row to hoe --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:08, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I doubt that Snowded would be a good candidate. GoodDay (talk) 14:17, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

ROFLOL. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:20, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Ah hah, Snowy has taken the challenge. GoodDay (talk) 14:48, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: we may have a potential problem, as he's now requested that his username be changed. Putting WP:AGF aside for the moment, it's as though he may think changing his name, will avoid getting banned. I hope this isn't a prelude to a sock situation. GoodDay (talk) 14:37, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

As a global renamer, I would decline as it would have the appearance of avoiding scrutiny. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:34, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I've noticed in the last few years, that editors have been getting into personality clashes with @Snowded: on content. I don't wish to ABF or be cynical, but I do at times suspect that there's somebody with a grudge against him concerning or related to the topic Cynefin framework & perhaps that individual could be a banned editor who's creating socks to try & bring down Snowy. Just a theory of mine. GoodDay (talk) 15:38, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

There have been a couple but not in this case I think. This editor is salvagable and I've offered to help him before and may do again(will sleep on it) but its about time you took omeone on GoodDay rather than asking other people to :-) -----Snowded 19:31, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

@Snowded: You agree to mentor, and I'll change to "mentor and monitor". --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:36, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I'll sleep on it but if no one else will ... Mind you I think it needs an agreement to 1RR and an absolute committment to no commenting on other editors -----Snowded 20:45, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I believe you're more suited for the task. Best to have someone who's got a clean record. GoodDay (talk) 00:42, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm the only one with a clean record thanks for your support GoodDay it's much appreciated. (My username change request is for the reasons explained on my Talkpage btw - that specific identifier is in use elsewhere and I was advised there was a risk it could be compromised. No other motive at all. Sirjohnperrot (talk) 07:53, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Cool & be sure to follow your mentor's advice. Don't work against him. GoodDay (talk) 19:23, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion

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Notice received. GoodDay (talk) 18:51, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

July 2020

Please refrain from using talk pages such as Talk:Joe Biden for general discussion of the topic or other unrelated topics. They are for discussion related to improving the article in specific ways, based on reliable sources and the project policies and guidelines; they are not for use as a forum or chat room. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. See here for more information. That's twice now. You know better than to do this. Scjessey (talk) 15:51, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Are you serious? GoodDay (talk) 15:55, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Of course. Your comments violated WP:NOTAFORUM, which you absolutely know. -- Scjessey (talk) 15:56, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Did you & I meet before on opposite sides, at an article about media biased toward Bernie Sanders.? GoodDay (talk) 15:58, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

I don't take "sides". I don't even have a vote in US elections. -- Scjessey (talk) 16:04, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm not American either. Why don't you let the RFC closer decide, if my posts have merit or not. You're not the boss & shouldn't be acting as though you are, on this topic. GoodDay (talk) 16:12, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Meh, I think the MSM editorialising could look that way, but only in a certain light. It all comes down to reliable sources, no? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:06, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Depends on what the reliable sources are. CNN sources & MSNBC news sources are certainly going to push anti-Trump & pro-Biden stories, as well as anti-progressive Democrat & pro-establishment Democrat stories. Meanwhile, Scjessey should let the RFC closer decide on whether my posts have merit or not, instead unilaterally deleting them, simply because he doesn't like the content. GoodDay (talk) 16:11, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

@Scjessey: GoodDay has a point about removing other people's talk page posts, and I think doing it to an established user is not to be done, no matter how repugnant one might find the posts. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:23, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

No. It's disruptive, clearly inappropriate use of the article talk page, and inflammatory. It's not that they are repugnant as to their content, it's that they are disruptive to collaboration on article improvement. I think that they should be removed especially when they're done by a long-established editor who has no excuse of ignorance or inexperience. SPECIFICO talk 16:56, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Note: Like Sjessey, SPECIFICO also is a no vote at said-Rfc. Read into to that, as you will. PS - I'll allow the censures to prevail. GoodDay (talk) 17:11, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

You haven't been censured yet. By the way, I thought your !vote in that RfC was nonsense. It did not address the central point, to wit that there has been only a single allegation of "sexual assault" and the proposed change to the header leads the reader to believe that there were plural allegations of assault. SPECIFICO talk 17:46, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Why not let the RFC reviewer decide for him/herself, if my 'survey' vote has merit or not. GoodDay (talk) 17:50, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

The closer if any will not be giving you personal feedback. I note you have no response on the substance. Good luck. SPECIFICO talk 18:01, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

I realise it's a US presidential election year. But over-reaction on those talkpages isn't necessary. Anyways, I hope the browbeating is done. GoodDay (talk) 18:06, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Deepfriedokra, Scjessey this was my point as well, especially combined with your original edit summary which wasn't particularly civil. Glen 18:26, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

I think we are back to removing other people's talk posts being a bad idea. We get that there may be underlying ideological differences clouding judgment or coloring perceptions. So better to leave the other editor's posts alone. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:03, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

I presume you also think SOAPBOX ranting is a bad idea. SPECIFICO talk 19:08, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

PS: I was going to go to the Covid-19 question at the Donald Trump article & vote None of the above. Then point out how during a pandemic, both major parties still oppose Medicare for All, as they both have big Pharma among their party donors. But, I suppose that would've just gotten deleted, too. GoodDay (talk) 20:23, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/John_Horgan

This is a Premier of British Columbia and we need to provide much more content about his political life, views, statements, etc Normally, Premiers of a Province have much more relevant information listed about them. I will cite Premier Doug Ford of Ontario, https://en.wikipedia.org/Doug_Ford

This article contains much more details about his early life, early involvement in politics, political positions, statements made, and controversies. Please also see Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York's Wiki article for reference, https://en.wikipedia.org/Andrew_Cuomo

I have added in a "controversies" section to discuss one of the most contentious and politically charged issues in the Province of British Columbia's history, the British Columbia Back to School Plan, one which has been discussed and featured daily all over the news in BC. We also need to add in something to discuss Mr. Horgan's political stances on issues such as the Trans Mountain pipeline, etc. Recently, Mr. Horgan reached out to Ryan Reynolds and asked for his help to convince the province's young to stop partying due to the spread of COVID-19. Topics such as this should be covered in this article as well.

I have tried to seek consensus however no one is posting in the talk section. They are simply reverting changes when I am trying to expand on an article about a political figure, presiding over a Province in Canada, during the COVID-19 pandemic. Rather than reverting changes, people should be contributing additional information and context. No one has provided any valid reason as to why these changes were undone and if anything, they should be expanding on this article, not taking away. Again, I am open to discussing on here and seeing how we can work together to expand on this important article. In fact, I would welcome as much help in this regard as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VirtualVisionary (talk • contribs) 00:11, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Per WP:BRD get a consensus for what you want on that article's talkpage. You can't be forcing your changes onto articles. GoodDay (talk) 00:15, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Have a good day

August

Sunflowers in Walsdorf

Seeing your name on my watchlist, and last with "frustrating" in the edit summary, makes me come over to wish you a good day. What do you think about my New Year's resolutions, top of my talk? - I should perhaps add: avoid frustrating topics. I love the talk of Fylbecatulous, a refuge I sometimes seek. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:00, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

The pro-establishment Democratic tilt to the Trump & Biden articles, is disgusting. CNN & MSNBC news are being treated as the 'only' reliable sources, while Fox news & independent news gets brushed aside. One only needs to go over the CNN/MSNBC analyst coverage of the first night of the 2020 Democratic National Convention to see the bias. CNN/MSNBC have treated M. Obama as though she were a goddess. GoodDay (talk) 17:04, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Did you look at my - rather general - suggestions? ... and the talk for refuge? ... have some flowers also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:43, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

GoodDay, it's the same in the UK. Sky News have spent the whole day blowing smoke up Michelle Obama's backside, whilst simultaneously ripping the piss out of Trump for not being able to hold his wife's hand down the steps of Airforce 1. The bias is real and very much exists in a supposedly neutral media. Cassianto 19:09, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Indeed, it's so frustrating seeing mainstream news media attempting to manufacture consent & Wikipedians going along with it. Thus my frustration with the Biden & Trump articles. GoodDay (talk) 19:15, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Good day today, a first for me today: a featured list (= a featured topic in this case) on the Main page, see Misplaced Pages:Main Page history/2020 August 21, an initiative by Aza24 in memory of Brian. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:29, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

argy-bargy

@GoodDay:
a wrangling argument or verbal dispute

Also called: argle-bargle

• https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/argy-bargy

0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 18:12, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

The DNC is actually getting JFK's grandson involved?? GoodDay (talk) 18:21, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

you can pronounce it that way if you want. @Secretname101 has been doing thousands of edits in that article in the past couple of days and you didn't complain about THEM. you know damn well that this is in the middle of the event and things are changing so fast that it makes one's head spin. Why pick on me? The charts are awful. I'm just trying to make sure the darn thing makes sense. There's a narrative and it needs to be told in a coherent way...sorry about the accidental delete. Arglebargle79 (talk) 19:33, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Don't know what you're trying to do to that article, but it's a headache. GoodDay (talk) 20:09, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Look, I didn't create the charts. They were a lousy idea. @Secretname101 did, and there wasn't a consensus about THAT. What we need is a simple narrative. These are episodes of a TV Show. I called out for consensus on what to do, and nobody seemed to care so I went with it. We need to tare the thing to shreds and start over.Arglebargle79 (talk) 20:19, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Nothing has to be done. GoodDay (talk) 20:21, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Emperor of Japan

The Japanese constitution names the Emperor of Japan as the Symbol of the State and of the unity of the people, and the wording that makes the emperor the head of state is the symbol of the state. Just because it doesn’t have the wording head of state written in the constitution doesn’t mean he’s not the head of state. DavisAndrew416 (talk) 18:25, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

@DavisAndrew416: nothing wrong with the current images. Anyways, getting tired of this back & forth. GoodDay (talk) 18:40, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

So, what exactly was the point in sending me to this talk page ? DavisAndrew416 (talk) 19:31, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Use the Head of state article's talkpage. GoodDay (talk) 19:32, 24 August 2020 (UTC)