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Ongoing systematic bias

Misrepresentation of sources and biased statements based on unreliable sources

This is a one sided article which paddles Pro-Islamic and Islamic apologists views only. Examples (not the exhaustive list) are given below and which need to be corrected, the whole article needs reverification if the statements in article match with what the source says. Protected Islamophobia article has multiple issues:

Example1: Modi/BJP bashing based on opinon pieces in newspapers, hence can't be counted as WP:RELIABLE)

Example2: Misrepresentation of sources to incorrectly show biased Hindu attitude towards Islam e.g. claim in the article misrepresents this source cited with the claim.

The Islamophobia#Geographic trends section has dubious and outright misleading phrasing

"A report from Australia has found that the levels of Islamophobia among Buddhists and Hindus are significantly higher than among followers of other religions."

whereas the source actually says
"There are significant differences in Islamophobia scores among respondents with different religious affiliations. Firstly, as one would expect, Muslims have the lowest Islamophobia score: 1.3 compared with the national average of 2.2. They are followed by followers of Judaism and people with no religion, who have lower Islamophobia scores than the national average. Except for Anglicans all Christian groups have Islamophobia scores higher than the national average. Except for Anglicans all Christian groups have Islamophobia scores higher than the national average of 2.2. Among the Christian groups Presbyterians have the highest score followed by Greek Orthodox, Uniting Church, Baptists, Lutherans, Catholics and ‘other Christians’.Among the followers of non-Christian religious affiliations, the Buddhists and Hindus, two of the fastest growing religions in Australia, have significantly higher Islamophobia scores."

The table 12 on page 14 has the Islamophobia rated on a qualitative nominal scale. On the "nominal scale",
1 means NO BIAS or a islamoPHILE (non-muslim who loves muslims),
2.5 means AVERAGE or NEUTRAL (anti and pro bias coexist in equal measure),
5 means VERY BIASED (any value above 2.5 represent the person has more anti-islam bias compared to pro-islam bias they behold).

Source actually shows Hindus in Australia have 2.5 score i.e. below (either neutral or hold co-existing feeling of more pro-islam over anti-islam), article however misrepresents it as if ozzie hindus are anti muslim. This is dangerous, because such articles are then pipelinked elsewhere and used in edit wars to silence other with wrong facts.

Your action needed: Remove the statements from article related to 2 exmaples above. Please add Template:Multiple_issues and Template:Systemic bias on top of the article. 58.182.176.169 (talk) 07:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Add a section on "Victim playing" by muslims by citing Islamophobia against the legitimate criticism of islam

Misplaced Pages policies require eiditng based on the "rational" modern scientific rules e.g. reliable sources, unbiased editing, repesent diverse range of perspectives including proponents views as well as critics views. This article currently represents only the "muslims are victims" perspective. It does not include the critique (critcisim, counter and counter-counter), e.g. how islamophobia is also misused by playigg victim' e.g. even on wiikipedia talkpages itself.

Misplaced Pages policies manadate "right of freedom" which includes the

Many editors are scared of countering systemetic pro-islamic bias on wikipedia for the fear of being "incorrectly labelled as islamophobic" and being trageted. This may take the form of some editors "playing victim" to rally other muslims by crying "islam under attack" in case of legitimiate criticism of islam. Misplaced Pages is not a tool for proselytizing or whitewashing the uncomfortable truth, nor wikipedia is a platform for executing "online death sentence" for those editors who try to implement the spirit, principals and policies of wikipedia by taking on leigitimate concen of systematic wide-spread pro-islamic bias across numerous wikipedia articles. This bias works in two ways,

  • (a) keeping islam related articles represented from the "islamic-proselytizers" (supremacist agenda, islam is best and purest with no flaws), and
  • (b) "Islamic-lobbists" and "islamic-apologists"" neutralising criticism of islamic by trying to keep it out by "playing victim", rallying others with "islam under attack", repeated reverts and causing multipel objections to tire out or scare off other editors (war of attrition and jihad], e.g. even the term "information jihad" has been kept out of wikipedia and article on jihad eventhough huge number of reliable sources exist on it). 58.182.176.169 (talk) 07:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Why don't you just read the article before you criticize it? The article does include critique. In fact it has a whole section called Islamophobia#Criticism_of_term_and_use. You playing the victim card here is ridiculous. Just look at all the Islam articles. They are full of critique. In fact Misplaced Pages even publishes the whole Muhammad cartoons upfront (when even most newspapers didn't). The article on Muhammad is full of pictures of the islamic prophet (even though Muslims don't really like that). I think the bias on the English Misplaced Pages is clearly on the other side. If anyone has to fear an "online death sentence" than it is Muslims, not those who criticize them. In fact, I could even prove that to you, if I wouldn't get blocked for providing such a proof. --19:28, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Article needs more non-muslim editors as watchers

To add WP:BALANCE by removing systematic WP:BIAS, please invite more editors from diverse backgrounds to add this article to their watchlist. Start by adding this to your watchlist. If bias continues, flag the editors/admins with bias and get them banned (at least from this article) for having a peristent WP:DISRUPTIVE pattern.

Thank you. 07:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Image concerns

Referring to the image of Arun Pathak & the "1992 demolition of the Babri Masjid mosque"; how is this a case of Islamophobia? This image isn't suitable for the article and the caption is leading in nature. DTM (talk) 09:33, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Islamicphobia

We should hava a redirect to this page if some types Islamicphobia instead of Islamophobia. Doremon764 (talk) 02:37, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Doremon764: Your suggestion is not clear enough, can you elaborate a little further.
Bookku (talk) 12:55, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Biden said Islamicphobic instead of Islamophobia. So we do a redirect so people know it's the same thing Doremon764 (talk) 18:26, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Oh Okay, I didn't know that. By the way I find myself bemused who decides on languages and terminologies ? and what if those are not fair enough?
Wikipedians decided to retain wording 'social distancing' and not to shift over to 'physical distancing' though the later one is more fair.
Here in this case 'Muslim phobia' is being unnecessarily conflated with Islamophobia and now some one Biden adds in new 'IslamicPhobic' and expects the rest of the world to accept.
Bookku (talk) 08:19, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
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