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Thank you!

Just a quick note of thanks for your NeverUseMobileVersion widget. A small thing, perhaps, but exactly what I've always wanted but didn't know until now existed and couldn't have created myself. May the world shower blessings on your head.—ShelfSkewed Talk 16:15, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Why, thank you  – Thjarkur (talk) 17:22, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft:June Werner

Thank you for your comments and guidance. Hopefully my edits address your concerns.

Bernardwerner (talk) 20:59, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Waakye pronunciation

Thanks for adding IPA in Waakye. In transcriptions linked to Help:IPA/English, usually we don't transcribe secondary stress following primary stress within words, unlike some American dictionaries, as it's not contrastive. Given you used WAH, it seems what you meant to add was /ɑː/, not /æ/. /æ/ is a checked vowel, so it never ends a word (except perhaps in onomatopoeia like baa), and pronunciations in the cited video do sound like /ɑː/ compared to their /æ/, which is shorter and closer to to my ears. Also, /i/ is for unstressed and word-final or prevocalic positions only, and /eɪ/ is represented by ay, not ey, in our H:RESPELL key. I don't hear variants other than /-eɪ/ at least in the first few minutes of the video, but I might be missing something. But these are all minor quibbles and I appreciate your contributions. Feel free to ask me any questions (as I might ask you something about Icelandic!). Nardog (talk) 15:29, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

​Ah, thank you. That Ghanaian accent sounded identical to a short /æ/ to me. They seemed to go back and forth with the endings, with wɑːtʃɑː at 2:45 and wɑːtʃi at 0:32 for example, but that's probably not important. I rarely transcribe English here, will ask someone check my work next time. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:07, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Copying within Misplaced Pages

Thanks for identifying the source of the material in your edit.

This type of edit does get picked up by Copy Patrol and a good edit summary helps to make sure we don't accidentally revert it. However, for future use, would you note the best practices wording as outlined at Misplaced Pages:Copying_within_Wikipedia? In particular, adding the phrase "see that page's history for attribution" helps ensure that proper attribution is preserved.S Philbrick(Talk) 13:00, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Will do – Thjarkur (talk) 13:07, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Culture of Paraguay

Hi! English is not my native language, so I can have some problems with grammars and more. I think is very short the article, as my intention is tranlating this spanish version Cultura de Paraguay which is longer.

– Willians01100 (talk) 17:52, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

​I have split the section from the main article to Culture of Paraguay, you can now edit that page. You can see your old version by clicking here. I can probably help with the translation, just let me know. If you are able to find some more sources in addition to the ones used by the Spanish Misplaced Pages, that would of course be good. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:11, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

The Reason for WPWP

The editing is based on enriching Misplaced Pages Pages Without Pictures — Preceding unsigned comment added by Major Lyte (talk • contribs) 10:20, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

​ I know what it means, but I'm asking you to use descriptive edit summaries. Removing italics is also not adding pictures. – Thjarkur (talk) 10:22, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Based on this, it looks like someone is cheating! Picture was graciously added by one @Godstime Elijah:, not @Major Lyte:. Leo Breman (talk) 15:39, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Transliteration English

Could the name be transliterated/anglicized as "Thyarkur"? Bernspeed (talk) 23:41, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

​Sure, even "Thyaskus" if one wants to push for similarity for English-speaking ears. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:35, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Berbers

In your recent edit, you added {{lang|tmh-Latn|Amajegh}} which is an unrecognized language. You can probably fix this much faster than I can. Thanks. MB 03:43, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Contest this speedy deletion

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (All information are true and credible, and not for any personal gain or benefit for any reason, I believe your doubt Maybe due to my mishandling and lack of wiki complete Knowledge or for which I apologize, and kindly request you not to delete the page as it is my first creation which won't be repeated again, pls consider and allow me to correct my errors. I shall rewrite following the guidelines and correct fundamentally) --Airdrago (talk) 20:10, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Airdrago (talk) 20:10, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Reply regarding the speedy deletion nomination of R N Dash

hello "This page appears to be a direct copy from https://cineyatra.in/extra-info. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites" you people given this reason but both article written by me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aycharumann (talk • contribs) 05:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

In that case, you can see Misplaced Pages:Donating copyrighted materials. You can for example add "This article is licensed under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License" on your website. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:36, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

JavaScript (NeverUseMobileVersion)

Hi, Is your above JavaScript perfectly secure and doesn't cause your account to be compromised? I don't know whether it's secure or not. I want to use it but thinking about safety first. Thank you. Ping me kindly. Empire AS 16:22, 23 July 2020 (UTC) Empire AS 06:14, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

​It's never secure to load userscripts from other users because they could change the script later to do any kind of edit on your behalf. I would recommend making a copy of the script in your own userspace, that way you can be sure that it won't be changed. Copy this file over to User:Empire AS/NeverUseMobileVersion.js and then add the text mw.loader.load( "https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Empire_AS/NeverUseMobileVersion.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript" ); to your common.js file. Then you're only loading a script you control yourself. As you can see, the script is very short, the only thing it does is change the URL. – Thjarkur (talk) 08:47, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

@Þjarkur:, Thank you. I was really worried about its security. The idea you suggested, I was going to try it before. But I didn't do that, as I was doing it without your permission and in a way, it was stealing. Thank you. Empire AS 08:54, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

​Everything on Misplaced Pages (apart from images) is licensed under the Creative Commons license, so you're free to copy and modify anything. Usually you write an attribution notice in the edit summary when copying: "Copying text from X, see that article for attribution history", but this tiny script is marked as CC0 so you don't even have to do that. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:01, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

I've created the pages. But the script doesn't removes m from URL. Instead, it shows yellow-coloured background on some words. It loads URL in this way . Recently, I used this script and then it was finely working and loading desktop site automatically. But now, it doesn't load desktop site. Even if you switch-on the desktop mode. Can you fix it? Have you any script that automatically loads desktop site on mobile? Thank you. Empire AS 11:10, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

​Your script is correctly set up, but your browser hasn't refreshed its cache yet. Try hitting reload. (The yellow background is something Google adds to its searches, that's not coming from Misplaced Pages) – Thjarkur (talk) 11:19, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

I've cleared cache, but why still word m remains? But you see that I haven't added "CC0" in js. Is it compulsory? Empire AS 11:21, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

​Turns out that you need to place the import line at the top of your common.js, then it works. A CC0 notice is not compulsory. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:29, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, It started working, but I don't know what's difference between top and bottom placing. I thank you for creating such a js that helps mobile users. Empire AS 11:49, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

​I mean that mw.loader.load( "https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Empire_AS/NeverUseMobileVersion.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript" ); needs to come first in common.js, like here. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:35, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I understand that, but I didn't understand why it works on the top and not works at bottom. Thank you. Empire AS 13:41, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

​The reason is that the mobile view doesn't support the "importScript" function, and it just gives up on executing the script after it has encountered a function it doesn't recognize. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:44, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Bruce Kluger page

Hi, Thjarkur -- Thanks for your message. I'm assuming you're taking about the sources listed in References, yes? Can you be a little more specific about which citations need to be more reliable and independent? --Bruce — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce Kluger (talk • contribs) 17:30, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

More...

Hi again, Þjarkur.

I've read your note a few times and I have a clearer understanding of what you're saying. As a journalist for the past 30 years, I am ultra-careful to make sure that my reporting is objective and verifiable. To that end, I worked very hard to give you citations that were airtight. I'm guessing that you may have a problem with citing my own website as a reference, but the only reason I did that was because the links WITHIN those pages contain links to other third-party sources, and it seemed more economic to do so. If that is the reason my article was taken down, I can try to revise those links and replace them with other third-party citations.

As to writing my own page, I agree in theory with Misplaced Pages's caution about that; but, again, having been a reporter for so long, I have the experience to write about myself objectively and without bias, just as I would write about anybody. Again, if you could point to areas in which you believe I have failed to be objective, please let me know which ones, and I'll be happy to fix them.

Many thanks. --Bruce — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce Kluger (talk • contribs) 17:49, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Once more...

Hi, Thjarkur. I have done a thorough overhaul of my sourcing, and have submitted the draft for your review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce Kluger (talk • contribs) 21:52, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Sunday

Hi Þjarkur. Could you please let me know when you'll get back to me regarding my queries yesterday? --Bruce Kluger — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce Kluger (talk • contribs) 19:22, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

​I have added a comment to your draft. Experience in reporting doesn't translate very well to Misplaced Pages's esoteric standards, which are to try to summarize only what secondary sources have said. I count two sources that contain some significant coverage of you and the rest seemingly being articles by you or listings (thus not counting towards WP:GNG). Getting a review takes up to 8 weeks, and it does not obviously demonstrate WP:GNG to me. Would highly recommend just improving some already existing articles here instead of trying to get your autobiography through, if you do become notable someone who is not you will eventually write about you here. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:39, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Responding to your comments on 8/2

Hello, Thjarkur --

I went through your 8/2 comments, both the one you wrote to me, and the one you wrote to some other person. I really appreciate the effort you made on to give my article a fair read. Here are my responses:

1) It is my understanding that the References section -- as in all of journalism -- is simply to confirm and substantiate, through a reliable source or sources, information that has been reported. Indeed, when I've written articles over the years for various outlets, my fact-check file takes twice as long to write as the piece itself. For better or worse, I am fastidious about that. Therefore, when I give you a link as a source, it is often just to confirm some fact or facts that I've written in the copy. This is why, in my original draft that you rejected, I felt comfortable submitting material that I'd written about myself because it had already been verified by another publication. To wit: When I wrote in USA Today about my experiences as an editor of Playboy, I trusted that the reader would know that that reporting had already been vigorously fact-checked by the copy department at USA Today, and the piece would never have appeared had my reporting about my Playboy experiences been wrong. However, in my second draft, I replaced most links to my own writing with other sources.

2) You write "this NPR piece contains some coverage which is about a project but not him directly." Correct. I included that link as a verification of a single fact that is reported in the sentence to which the footnote is appended. Does an article have to be completely about me as a central topic in order for it to verify or substantiate the fact that I am reporting?

3) You write: "Several sections are uncited." If you could please tell me which ones, I will be happy to provide citations, rather than have them removed. I did not include any material that I deemed extraneous or trivial.

4) You write that my substantiation to my reporting about my work for the New York Times is "just a link to a piece written by him." Correct. That's because you rejected my citation in my first draft, which pointed the reader to a listing of the nine articles I've written for the Times (here). I suppose I could find all nine pieces on the NYT website, but I think that a long series of nine footnotes would look unsightly, don’t you?

5) I'm sorry to read that you don't believe I am "notable" enough to merit a Misplaced Pages article. I disagree, of course. In fact, Misplaced Pages itself mentions me in several of its articles, and it has devoted full articles to projects that I was either a part of or actually helped to create. If you ultimately decide that my article is not worthy of publishing, I'd like to have my name removed from those articles, as it is embarrassing to me that you have deemed the work I have created worthy of including, but not me as a creator.

6) Speaking of which: in your article about John-Michael Tebelak, you mention that after creating his internationally renowned musical "Godspell," he went on to direct a musical called "Ka-Boom." That citation has two glaring errors: 1) your link on that reporting takes the reader to Ka-Boom, which is "Italian children's programming bloc" that John-Michael had nothing to do with, and 2) you've omitted the exclamation point in the title. I know this because I wrote the "Ka-Boom!" that John-Michael directed, and I helped design the logo. See here.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

--Bruce Kluger — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce Kluger (talk • contribs) 19:11, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

The early life section was the unsourced section I was referring to. The only thing is that WP:GNG is not clearly demonstrated, in my view, but another reviewer will come along and review it in a few days/weeks. Again, writing an autobiography here is strongy discouraged because none of us are able to be neutral about ourselves, and because editors with a conflict of interest have a tendency to take up a disproportional amount of time of other editors. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:11, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Þjarkur ...

...it's honestly a pleasure to communicate with someone who is so candid and thorough. That's a rare commodity, these days. Just so you know, I gave a lot of thought to the WP:GNG factor before I sat down to write -- the last thing I wanted to do was take up space with a self-inflated notion of who I am and what I've achieved. But I eventually landed on the idea that (in all objectivity) I've been privileged to be a part of some pretty high-visibility projects over the past 40 years, and I am well known in certain select circles, and have even touched some lives with my work. So that was my motivation. In any case, we'll see what the other reviewer says. Thank you again, and stay safe. Bruce Kluger (talk) 15:06, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Lolli Sourcing

Hi Þjarkur,

I was wondering what you meant by getting reliable sources. I used major publications for information like CNBC, Tech Crunch, Cheddar, Yahoo Finance, and WSJ. I reviewed sources and got information from major publications that had covered Lolli to get notability and verifiability. What would qualify the sources I used as un-reliable?

Best, WaltJsmith (talk) 14:34, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

​Someone else had marked some of the sources as being unreliable, but I had not looked at them myself. Appears some were tagged for being primary sources (press releases) and some for possibly being unreliable cryptocurrency news sites (they do tend to be unreliable). Forbes content marked with "Contributor" is self-published content and is usually bought. But it does seem that several (most?) of the sources tagged as unreliable in the draft are actually usable sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:40, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Edward Peck (professor) should be Edward Peck (Professor) - can you change this, not sure how. Thanks

Hi can you change this, not sure how. ThanksDanannS (talk) 17:54, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello DanannS, Misplaced Pages doesn't capitalize words in titles (except for proper nouns). – Thjarkur (talk) 17:58, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Help

Hello dear Þjarkur Can you please check the page (Bahador Zamani) and remove the proposed deletion if possible. I edited the page again--Rashidhosseini3 (talk) 12:09, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Lo4d.com

Lo4d.com article is not paid or advertise remove the deletion tag if possible — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamilanawiki (talk • contribs) 09:11, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Chhari Village Clarification

Chhari is a small village which is located in Mant Tehsil of Mathura District Uttar Prasdesh India. Chhari village is a ancient village in the time of lord krishna childhood. this village is very popular among the peoples. tourist visited here for darshans of load krinsha temples.

Thank you — Preceding FMEINDIA comment added by FMEINDIA (talk • contribs) 19:28, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello my name is Intōbes̄a

Hello my name is Intōbes̄a I am Mon people I used to work for NMB48 Shinano Sorahana 信濃宙花 I want to write a post about Japanese singer, Burmese singer and Mon singer But I have never written a Misplaced Pages all that I have done is not in violation of copyright I have come to arrange for the company permission right now, I can read in 8 languages I've studied in Burma, Thailand, Japan, and South Korea.

Used to study in Burma Mon State, Ye district and Thailand Samut Sakhon Province Phra Pradaeng College and South Korea schools as I wrote a post on wikipedia I don't want anything, I don't want anything, I just want to help Misplaced Pages but I don't understand admin wiki more What I have written all the books is not wrong, why do you want to delete them now I am more skeptical of admin Wiki, because I want to delete it all the time I don't understand I haven't broken copyright laws as I write all posts, I have company authorization when I was a kid I never saw my mother, NMB48 saved my life and sent it to me to school now I don't forget the company I tried to help ] now I try to write a post about all the singers but I'm sorry there is part In the wikipedia about Mon Singer, no one wrote a post for me, I didn't dare to write it because I didn't know the history of Mon Singer now I want to write a post about all the singers I have come from, and I want to write them all I write for all future singers I love all singers because he sang I heard that I was happy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 咽頭べさ (talk • contribs) 14:25, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

​Hello Intōbes̄a. Yes, writing a new Misplaced Pages article is quite hard, really the only way to learn how is to improve some already-existing articles. All statements made need good sources. Your English is not quite good enough yet to contribute to the English Misplaced Pages, maybe you'd like to contribute to Misplaced Pages in your native language? – Thjarkur (talk) 20:32, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Review question

Hello, I got a notice that my new redirect article Dual-sync monitor was reviewed by you. I'm a fairly new editor and I see how that one might be seen as unnecessary, but I can't figure out where the results of that review actually are, and I've been searching the AfC pages and so on for a while. Could you let me know where I can see this? Thank you!Gravislizard (talk) 15:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes hello Gravislizard, see here: Misplaced Pages:New pages patrol. The "review" is nothing more than a checkbox that marks new creations as not being spam, vandalism or otherwise worthy of deletion, also makes pages show up in Google results (Google does however not really index redirects). So I was just marking your redirect as being a good one. I can't say I understand why the system notifies people when their creations are reviewed, since it isn't something that needs the editor's attention. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:49, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining! I agree that it's a strange and startling feature that Misplaced Pages should make a little clearer. Have a great day!Gravislizard (talk) 19:53, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Andreas S. Londos

Thank you for the help. There are two Andreas Londos in Greek history. That's why the article Andreas Londos, should has title Andreas S. Londos. Wikimedia commons depicts both Londos, should have separate, but i dont know how to do this. Can you make at Wikimedia commons new page with title Andreas S. Londos so i can transfer there the right images? (Dor-astra (talk) 17:12, 19 August 2020 (UTC))

​Yes, I've fixed the problem at Commons now. Do you think you'd be interested in starting an article on the other Londos? I would if I could read Greek sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:29, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, i am working about greek miinistries right now. you can try with Translation. and i can help you if you have questions (Dor-astra (talk) 17:39, 19 August 2020 (UTC))

Ejefoh

This is not Anthony Ejefoh, I want to create one for him . He is known here in nigeria .... and i alrrady checked the article . There was no error .Can you kindly look into this. It my first post so i understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ijobacypher (talk • contribs) 11:58, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

​The subject is not notable enough for a Misplaced Pages article. You should not ask your friends to remove speedy deletion templates for you. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:07, 22 August 2020 (UTC)