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Edward Foulkes

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Foulkes fails WP:GNG due to an lack of significant coverage. Dougal18 (talk) 17:02, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:05, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:05, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment Playing in a darts world championship makes nobody notable. Playing in five didn't save Peter Johnstone from deletion as he failed GNG. Foulkes has nothing other than "man wins darts match" articles online and therefore fails GNG. Dougal18 (talk) 15:27, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment As you have mentioned in a previous discussion, WP:SPORTCRIT states that notability can be assumed if 'they have, for example, participated in a major international amateur or professional competition at the highest level', which I would argue the PDC World Championships falls under, given its professional status, significant prize money, global nature of participants, and sizeable viewing audience in several countries. If you would still fall back on WP:GNG as an argument for deletion regardless of passing WP:SPORTCRIT, I would hasten you to look at a few of your created articles and tell me whether they pass WP:GNG, or whether they fail WP:GNG and you would have to fall back on other categories to argue against their deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lewcario (talkcontribs) 11:48, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep It might be relatively a notable topic, and it is better "to be kept" instead of "to be deleted"; meanwhile, it is also better to add more corresponding reference(s). Ali Ahwazi (talk) 07:01, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep as passes WP:SPORTCRIT. Needs a few more references but the subject is without a doubt notable. ser! (let's discuss it). 12:30, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep, supplement, and not raise the issue of deletion until the end of the World Championship where he is playing now. /Narambug. 18:47, 20 December 2020 (MSK)
  • Delete Thought long and hard about this, but ultimately fails the notability guidelines and that concerns both WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. The keep supporters all make the logical fallacy that a sportsperson automatically is notable upon reaching a certain sportive achievement. That's not true. The achievement alone does not do that. It only creates a rebuttable presumption. As it happens here this darts player only qualified for the tournament through a specific qualifier designed to allow one young player from his region of the world in the draw. He did win his first match, but his opponent was a rather insignificant player himself (ranked around #100 in the world). Foulkes subsequently lost comprehensively against the first significant player he faced. WP:SPORTCRIT clearly states that notability is dependent of the subject having been subject of multiple published non-trivial secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent and independent of the subject. That is what we call significant coverage. Said coverage does not exist here and the keep supporters have not made any attempt to prove it does. The only existing coverage of this person fall under WP:ROUTINE.Tvx1 13:48, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
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