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The Lion that Meowed

I'm deeply disturbed that this harassment is still occurring. I may send Eddie an e-mail and see if I can convince him to stop. I really hoped that at one time, Eddie could be a productive member of the rail community on Misplaced Pages, but I suppose I had high expectations. Have you thought about semi-protecting your user and talk pages in the short-term? —Viriditas | Talk 05:48, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't feel harassed, just vandalized. Reverting is easy. Don't stress about it. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 07:34, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I would like to see a resolution to this issue. If there is anyway I can help out, please don't hesitate to contact me. —Viriditas | Talk 23:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting vandalism to my user talk page!! :D Cheers, Tangotango (talk) 03:34, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Train wreck picture

Hi Bunch, I found it odd that you are having the train wreck picture to decorate your talk page for so long... Your selection of the pictures have been quite good but this one stands out, really. I hope the image does not indicate the state of your mood. --BorgQueen 13:53, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Your psychological guess is correct, really, BQ. I'm still working through life adjustments to the tragedy in September. Plus I always seem to be at least partially entangled in depressing wiki-politics lately. Still, it's time at last for me to archive this page at last, and that's usually a good time to find a new pretty picture with a portrait orientation. Suggestions? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 17:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

How about one of these?: Image:Life Saint-Austremoine Issoire bottom n2.jpg, Image:Muzeum Sułkowskich - Zabytkowy Witraż.jpg, Image:Newtons cradle animation book.gif, Image:William-Adolphe Bouguereau (1825-1905) - At the Edge of the Brook (1875).jpg --BorgQueen 18:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

This image is quite nice, too: Image:Falco vespertinus NAUMANN.jpg --BorgQueen 18:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

"At the Edge of the Brook" suits my fancy. There's something interesting about it. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

For your work at C:CSD

At last, the recognition I both so richly deserve and so unabashedly beg for —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 15:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Certified.Gangsta (talk · contribs) vandalizing my userpage

Certified.Gangsta (talk · contribs) is repeatedly vandalizing my userpage after the final warning (he deleted the warning). Certified.Gangsta is also censoring and deleting all my comments from his talk page. Could you help put a stop to this? Guardian Tiger 19:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

He's not vandalizing your user page; don't call it vandalism. (He thinks he's doing the right thing, thus, it isn't vandalism.) He is however edit warring there for little reason, and I have asked him to stop in my edit summary there. He is free to delete your comments from his talk page. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 19:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Certified.Gangsta is making unjustified accusations on his talk page while deleting and censoring ALL my comments. Certified.Gangsta is using his talk pages to attempt to mountain a campaign against me. He is censoring and deleting ALL my comments that refute the accusations. Is there anything that can be done about this? Guardian Tiger 19:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

You both appear to be harassing the other. Everybody stop and try to grow up. Stop posting the same message on everybody's page, too. Thanks. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 19:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Your block of TheJokerman2247

TheJokerman2247, who you blocked, has made an {{unblock}} request on his talk page. Please respond to it. I don't see a connection between him and EddieSegoura, and I noticed that you didn't seem to comment about this connection anywhere. I think this user deserves to see the highlights of the evidence in this case. Eli Falk 13:12, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I've provided evidence at User talk:TheJokerman2247. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 15:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Tell me something good about Misplaced Pages

Or tell me I should quit. Or better yet, give me tips for how to quit. Thanks! —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 06:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Something good? Well, there's always work to do! (Sorry, I couldn't resist...) Best way to quit is to go cold turkey, which I recommend doing once in a while. Everyone needs a break. —Viriditas | Talk 08:26, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry if you're feeling discouraged. One thing that I find good about the project is that if a particular aspect is temporarily wearying, one can always hop over to a far-removed topic or task; for example, from projectspace to article-writing and back again, or in admins' case, from administration tasks to writing or editing or vice versa. The idea is not to be consumed by the feuds that pop up, or the edit wars, or any of the other annoyances that arise; but to contribute to knowledge, and in the process, to have some fun. But I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, having been here far longer than I have; I appreciated kind words from you on one of the noticeboards at a difficult moment some months ago, and the place can still use you and more like you. Newyorkbrad 10:50, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

• I don't think you will leave, because like me no matter how tempted you are not a quitter. There is lots you can do, if you are temporarily tired of writing good pages, you could start a crusade (I have a list of suitable subjects somewhere) failing that you could go an irritate someone, that is pretty popular these days - slap a few templates on here and there (I have a list also of people who IMO need templates slapping on them) you could even make your own template to slap on someone. I bet Brad has never had a template, and would be thrilled to have one -so you see there is much you can do. Start Category: Wikipedians who are pissed off do I need to go on. Anyway if one leaves in my experience one has to log on just as often just to see what people are saying about one - so if you are here you might as well edit - it also has the added advantage of irritating the hell out of people who were glad you left. Except in your case no-one would be glad to see the back of you - so all in all you don't really have a lot of choice but to stay and stick it out - do you? Giano 12:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Good? We are creating a 💕 from the ground up. I think that is pretty amazing.

If you are a feeling bit disillusioned (you are not alone there) then I would echo the comments above about either taking a break to get some fresh air - I am a bit refreshed after 3 weeks off over Christmas and the New Year - or finding something different to do for a change: follow some redlinks and create some new content (see User:ALoan/redlinks for some ideas), or add new material to old articles, or pick a topic in an area that interests you and write a FAC-length article on it, or do a mindless admin task for a while, or update some project pages, or get involved in a new area.

Good luck. -- ALoan (Talk) 13:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Someone recently wrote:

For me, contributing to Misplaced Pages is a noble act. Knowledge is power. We can all feel justifiably proud that the words we are helping to write, will help to empower untold millions of people, all over the world.

The world would be a poorer place without Misplaced Pages, and Misplaced Pages would be a poorer place without you. Paul August ☎ 16:36, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely agreed. Friday (talk) 16:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Redaction from Giano's talk page

Hi Bunchofgrapes,

Regarding this edit, why did you remove it? Read the text at the top of his page, it's obvious that this remains a charged issue. Your removal of my text doesn't make sense, do you assert that there's no way to discuss things with him? Was there a problem with what I wrote? Please help me out here, I'm trying to understand your reasoning. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 16:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I assert there is no way you can discuss things with him. I assert that fact is obvious. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Why? - CHAIRBOY (☎) 16:21, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

(Pardon the butting in) I thought Chairboy's message was polite and reasonable. If another editor can't abide polite and reasonable communication, that's a real problem, but not with the person being reasonable. Friday (talk) 16:23, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

OK. I quit. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:29, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I think you are quitting over a rather minor dispute. I was concerned that after Giano called for desyopping a number of people, that he would get a rise out of one of them, so I understand your reason for removing the inquiry, but at some point Giano needs to resolve these questions himself. Fred Bauder 23:12, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

• Oh no Giano bloody doesn't - that is what you and the arbcom are here for, now go and deal with it! Giano 23:22, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
• That's really nice Fred. Why don't you just express what you seem to be saying more directly? Here, let me help: "You, Bunchofgrapes, appear to be stupid. Oh, and everything is Giano's fault." (If you think I am pulling back solely because of this one little thing here, you must surely believe the former.) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:29, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I wish you wouldn't. In my experience you've been a good editor. (But in my experience, so has Chairboy.) Some issues are more divisive than is healthy. WP:TEA? Friday (talk) 16:31, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:BEER would be more appropriat, as it is POETS day. -- ALoan (Talk) 17:00, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Confirmation

I confirm that I request my sysop access be removed. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 17:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

In accordance with your request, your sysop access has been removed: . Bastiq▼e 17:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm hanging my flag at half-staff...this is a sad day for this project. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 17:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh dear. Please don't leave. We need you.

At the end of the day, the admin bit it is just a mop and a stick, which you can get back any time you want. -- ALoan (Talk) 17:26, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Ganymead and ALoan. Newyorkbrad 17:32, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not yet committing to quitting writing here -- though right now I wish I could. I'm committing to quitting caring about everything that isn't writing. My watchlist is clear but for this page and Popcorn now. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 17:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of, could some kind soul have a word with someone in the position to do so on IRC to remove my permissions to #wikipedia-en-admins? It is my view that if that scum-pit must exist at all, it should draw a fine bright line and not admit washed-up old admins that nobody in their right mind trusts to make things any better around here. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 17:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Grapey. It's curious that you should hand in your sysop bit right at the moment that I'm thinking of handing in mine. (I just need to remain a sysop long enough to do something about that sock/abuse conflict that's all over my Talk first... there I go again, thinking that an admin flapping about can make a difference!) As for the scum-pit, who are these people who rely on us—pretty much you and me—to police it and get abused for our pains? I've sure never seen the arbitrator who wrote to Giano about our low morale do anything to help in there, for example. I HAVE on the other hand been abused and threatened by other arbitrators, for speaking my mind on en-admins. I've been kickbanned for—oh, well no idea what that specific thing was for, nobody's deigned to inform me, can't say I care much. Sorry I'm not in the mood for having a word with somebody in "position" on your behalf, Bunchie, or at all, much as I'd like to be of assistance. I just don't feel like talking with them. Bishonen | talk 18:55, 12 January 2007 (UTC).

I don't blame you a bit. Why do you think I don't want to ask? Maybe some other nice fellow will come along and... —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 20:33, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

HI BoG. I passed along your request for removal from the admin IRC channel to the ArbCom mailing list, since some readers of that list have such authority I believe. I am very saddened and sorry about all of this. I and the rest of the ArbCom are trying to figure out what we might do about any of this. if there is anything else you would like me to do, please ask. Paul August ☎ 20:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah! Thank you Paul. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 20:33, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Mackensen, informs me you've been removed from the access list per your request. Paul August ☎ 20:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Access removed

Per your request I have removed your access to #wikipedia-en-admins. As a former administrator in good standing you are free to re-apply for access at any time. Best wishes, Mackensen (talk) 20:47, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. That is a terrible, terrible rule, both there and (speaking of the parallel rule that applies) in the ArbCom mailing list. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 20:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC)