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Million Award: Thanks for your work in this important article

The Million Award
For your contributions to bring Schutzstaffel (estimated annual readership: 1,700,000) to Good Article status, I hereby present you the Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Misplaced Pages's readers! — Diannaa (talk) 19:33, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar
Award presented for your high-caliber editing and additions to numerous articles relating to World War II and Nazi Germany with good WP:RS citations in an area of history where neutrality and careful research are essential. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 16:25, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays
Wishing you a happy holiday season! Times flies and 2018 is around the corner. Thank you for your contributions. ~ K.e.coffman (talk) 00:09, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

For removing the beam

WikiChevrons

 The WikiChevrons 
Obenritter, as a new year begins, I hereby award you the WikiChevrons, for all your hard work and careful research in the area of history related to Nazi Germany and World War II; done in an objective way and using good WP:RS sources. Thank you. Kierzek (talk) 22:37, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

FYI

I think this is the way to deal with the problem you just encountered: . The odds are this IP is not some random new editor... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:40, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Piotrus: Thanks, you're certainly right that this is not some random editor as who else cites WP CIVIL, other than an experienced editor. Nonetheless, I have a handle on this, but I appreciate the advice.--Obenritter (talk) 00:49, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Alaric I

Thanks for your work on this. I just finished the new Boin book (really good), and Kulikowski's 2006 when it came out, one of the Peter Heather books, not to mention Gibbon and Bury. This is a difficult subject area due to minimal primary sources and changing historiography interpretations. -- GreenC 18:53, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

@GreenC: It was my pleasure. Like you, I've read those works. Actually my primary PhD work was centered around Romano-Germanic contact. Nonetheless, I agree with you, the Boin book is absolutely amazing and so much fun. If you have the time, there are probably some minor gaps here and there from the invasion of Italy where Boin's work might be helpful. If not, I may get to it eventually.--Obenritter (talk) 21:19, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Cookies for your past Waterwhiz interactions

I noticed this by chance: https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Responsibility_for_the_Holocaust

(I have never touched it, so I am not involved.)

Just in case you have not realized - you were so patient there with an IP-ed https://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Icewhiz

Bows for your NPOV and more there. Zezen (talk) 03:13, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@Zezen: Thanks for your kind comments. Zezen, I try to be as constructive as possible with editors, albeit I am not always able to remain entirely NPOV with certain forms of deliberate belligerence. --Obenritter (talk) 15:35, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Them are wise words - that is what it was all about, to make you lose your cool and thus subject you to an ANI or two. Zezen (talk) 16:09, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced

G'day everyone, voting for the 2020 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2020. Thanks from the outgoing coord team, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:18, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Reich Main Security Office - name change

FYI: You may want to comment on the talk page and state your informed opinion based on the RS sources as to name change. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 01:16, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I responded. I hate debating with people simply because of their opinion. These idiots who equate going to KZs across Poland and central Europe and who have read one or two books with being an expert on Nazi Germany and/or the use of Nazi terminology are such a nuisance.--Obenritter (talk) 02:28, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

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why did you delete my text?it´s correct. Don´t worry I've undone your edition God bye — Preceding unsigned comment added by REKKWINT (talk • contribs) 19:25, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

@REKKWINT:You are citing an already referenced work in that article, which I have now corrected accordingly. Your content has been retained with a minor tweak or two, but only after I scoured the original text for your additions. The page numbers now align with the 1975 version. In the future, please try and see if a work is already cited and also--please use the citation format employed throughout the rest of the page.--Obenritter (talk) 12:26, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your focused participation. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Misplaced Pages Editor Retention Project)

User:Krakkos submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

I nominate User Obenritter to be Editor of the Week for being a longtime valuable editor at Misplaced Pages. A professional historian, Obenritter has made invaluable contributions to Misplaced Pages's coverage of history, particularly articles related to the history of Germany and the Germanic peoples. A large number of important articles, such as Schutzstaffel, Responsibility for the Holocaust, Operation Barbarossa, Sicherheitsdienst, Abwehr, Walter Schellenberg, Alaric I and Liuvigild, have been significantly improved by him. These are complicated and controversial subjects, and the dedication and expertise of Obenritter has played a decisive role in keeping such articles scholarly and neutral.

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Obenritter
 
Editor of the Week
for the week beginning November 29, 2020
A veteran and longtime valuable editor and professional historian making numerous invaluable contributions to Misplaced Pages by improving

large number of important articles. He delves into complicated and controversial subjects with dedication and expertise and has played a decisive role in keeping such articles scholarly and neutral.

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articles related to the German History and the Germanic peoples.
Notable works
Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Germanic paganism, Alaric I, Theodoric the Great, Gaiseric, Totila, Teia, Liuvigild, Schutzstaffel, List of books about Nazi Germany, Responsibility for the Holocaust, Operation Barbarossa, Sicherheitsdienst, Gestapo, Walter Schellenberg, Oswald Pohl, and Brown House, Munich
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Thanks again for your efforts! ―Buster7 ☎ 14:09, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

@Krakkos:@Buster7: Thanks for the nomination. It is appreciated...just trying to do my part for the project.--Obenritter (talk) 15:36, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Congratulations with a very well deserved award. Krakkos (talk) 15:40, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Priority of Fredegund vs Galswitha

The Fredegund article has this:

"Fredegund was born into a low-ranking family but gained power through her association with King Chilperic. Originally a servant of Chilperic's first wife Audovera, Fredegund won Chilperic's affection and persuaded him to put Audovera in a convent and divorce her. Gregory of Tours remarks that Fredegund brought with her a handsome dowry, incurring the immediate affection of King Chilperic.

Chilperic put Fredegund aside and married Galswintha. Galswintha died the same year, probably strangled by Fredegund(c. 568), who succeeded Galswintha as queen."

To me this is clear that the order of wives - or certainly, of queens - was:

1. Audovera 2. Galswintha 3. Fredegund

I'm assuming monogamy which I realise is not a given for this period but which I believe is true for Chilperic. Absent monogamy it's possible Chilperic had multiple wives and the order above is the order in which they were his queen, not the order in which they were his wife, possibly?

Regardless it's unnecessary to overreact and cry "VANDALISM" in capital letters. :-) Spike (talk) 11:56, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

You're probably right, but my experience is that "unregistered" users normally make poor contributions. Your are likely an exception to that rule. By the way, Fredegund was his concubine before she became his wife at a later date. Her ongoing visits to the king's bedchamber evidently sent his wife Galswintha into despair. The Fredegund article probably needs some work, as those (the handsome dowry) are mirrored in Gregory's observations of Galswintha. Perhaps Chilperic took on two wives consecutively for their dowry, but other sources suggest that Fredegund was his concubine before he ever married her, as does what you've pointed out here as well. If the stories are true, she successfully managed to convince Chilperic to rid himself of 2 wives in turn--very manipulative.--Obenritter (talk) 17:25, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Your amendment looks good - former concubine, later wife. I hope this has been a constructive discussion. You certainly know your subject! Spike (talk) 15:56, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Indeed it has been. Your change improved the article, as it constituted greater clarification. Thanks for participating -- now go register as we need more good editors.--Obenritter (talk) 15:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Voting for "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" closing

G'day all, voting for the WikiProject Military history "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" is about to close, so if you haven't already, click on the links and have your say before 23:59 (GMT) on 30 December! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:35, 28 December 2020 (UTC) for the coord team

@Peacemaker67: Thanks for reminding me...voted accordingly.--Obenritter (talk) 00:43, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

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