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June 2018

Marteau's appeal

Le Marteau (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I am Marteau and am appealing my block for socking. It has been nine months since I was blockend, and during that time I have in no way edited Misplaced Pages. Why I am requesting this appeal using one of my sock accounts During a moment of frustration and in an attempt to enforce a Wikiretirement, prior to my being blocked for socking I removed the email address associated with my "sockmaster" account ("Marteau") and set the password to a random string. That was effective in locking me out of my "Marteau" account. It was obviously ineffective in enforcing a Wikiretirement, I love the project too much for that to happen any time soon. I am therefore unable to post my appeal to my sockmaster talk page as specified in WP:APPEAL. As specified in WP:APPEAL I therefore opened a UTRS ticket and entered my appeal there. UTRS is intended for accounts who are blocked from editing their talk page. Because I am not blocked but simply unable to edit my talk page, appealing using UTRS was deemed inappropriate. After some back and forth there, administrator @5 albert square set this account ("SaltySaltyTears") so that I could edit this talk page for 72 hours, and indicated that I could try appealing here. 5 albert square also asked that I explain to all why, hence this. Appeal Besides my bright-line violation of policy by socking, I am guilty of using a sock (this one; "SaltySaltyTears") to taunt @Volunteer Marek and @Guy. Besides that taunting, and besides my per se violation of policy by socking, never have I on any account or IP vandalized or used a sock to feign consensus, cast a !vote or otherwise damaged the project. Although I demonstrated my contempt for Guy and Marek and used a sock to do it, I revere the project and its content and treating it in any way but with the highest of respect would be contrary to all that I value. Remedy My block is due to my socking and my using one of those socks (this one) to taunt Guy and Marek. It is not due to my behavior in the article space per se. Should my editing privileges be restored, I would therefore object to any restrictions being placed which would inhibit my activity in the article space. My point is, my editing of articles was not why I am blocked. My editing of articles and talk pages as a sock was. That said, I do realize that I have sometimes become heated in my talk page discussions on political and ideological issues. My involvement on those talk pages is what preceded my taunting of Marek and Guy. Therefore, should I be granted edit privileges again, I propose the following restrictions: a lifetime ban on interacting with Guy and Volunteer Marek. To those, I will add two others I have found particularly challenging to my equanimity, namely SPECIFICO and Jytdog. In addition, for a year I am not to participate in talk page discussions on political articles or on articles involving people or things associated with the Intellectual Dark Web (including !votes) unless I am responding to a direct question from another editor to me, and then I will briefly answer the question without any unnecessary commentary and then disengage from the talk page. And I will, of course, edit only under one account.

Decline reason:

As you have indicated below that you wish for your appeal to be withdrawn, I am closing this as a procedural decline. I will also revoke TPA again for this account. If you wish to make future appeals, I would suggest that you lodge an appeal at WP:UTRS to get your TPA restored. 5 albert square (talk) 13:40, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

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This sock account was blocked by Guy. However, the admin who blocked the sockmaster account needs to sign off on this, and that was Bbb23, so pinging @Bbb23: SaltySaltyTears (talk) 16:28, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

This is a very unusual unblock request. I somehow doubt that others would agree with you that your edits in article space were okay. You edited in one of the more controversial areas of the project. But I'm not an expert on your edits before socking. That said anyone who needs four interaction bans to edit successfully at Misplaced Pages shouldn't be editing Misplaced Pages at all. You may think it's big of you to offer up those bans, but administrators will have to enforce them and why should we do that just so a disruptive user can edit? You also appear to agree to other restrictions on your editing, making the conditions of any unblock that much more complicated and difficult to enforce. I would not consent to unblocking you.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:55, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

So be it. Withdrawn. Peace out. - Marteau 01:21, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

restoring TPA per UTRS

Please see UTRS appeal #39563

I was blocked in June 2018 for using sock puppets to harass admin JzG (AKA "Guy") on talk pages. My "Sock Master" account was "Marteau" but I don't have the password and cannot access the email account for "Marteau" to reset the password. So I can never again use "Marteau" as an account. I have the password for one of my socks, "SaltySaltyTears" and want to use if for the appeal of my ban. I did appeal so on March 2019 and admin Bbb23 denied it. It has been two and a half years since I was banned for harassing Guy on talk pages using socks, and I would like to appeal now. Access to my talk page is blocked. I am requesting the ability to use my talk page to appeal my block. Thank you, Marteau, as "SaltySaltyTears" for the purposes of appealing my ban.

JzG seems unavailable. AmandaNP said O.K. as CU. 5 albert square said O.K. as a blocking admin. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:45, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Marteau's Appeal

Le Marteau (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I am unable to edit or appeal using my sock master account, 'Marteau', because in an attempt to enforce a Wikiretirement, I set the password and recovery email address to random strings, so I can never again use 'Marteau' as an account. I do have the password for this sock, 'SaltySaltyTears' and am using it only for the purposes of appealing my block.

I did use sock puppets to harass two editors, 'JzG' and 'VolunteerMarek', and also violated policy by using sock puppets to edit Misplaced Pages in general. However, beyond my harassing those two editors, I have never vandalized any article or talk page, nor have I ever used any sock puppet anywhere to feign consensus, to cast a !vote, or to otherwise 'game the system'.

I realize that what I did was not only in violation of policy, but also lead to interventions needing to be taken by administrators and check users. Admin time in general and check user time in particular is in short supply, and having added to their burden due to my actions is something I deeply regret. Should my editing privileges be restored, I will make it my top goal to follow policies and guidelines, edit using only one account, and should I become frustrated with other editors, I will deal with those frustrations in more acceptable ways.

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The decision is not mine to make, but unless I see someone objecting I support an unblock per WP:ROPE. --Guy Macon (talk) 14:49, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

• Maybe unblock with WP:IBAN on JzG' and 'VolunteerMarek'. Maybe just a clear understanding of zero tolerance. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:51, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
  • I think that could work Deepfriedokra. SaltySaltyTears would you be willing to be unblocked if we imposed an interaction ban on you interacting with JzG and VolunteerMarek?-- 5 albert square (talk) 22:07, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
    • @5 albert square: Yes, absolutely. It was my intention to not interact with them ever again, even without an interaction ban, but yes, absolutely. SaltySaltyTears (talk) 22:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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