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The city of Vác (Vacz in the text) is about 200km away from the Bakony mountain. So if Vác is OK., then the mountain's name is Börzsöny (or Pilis?), If the Bakony mountain is OK, then the name of the city is Veszprém. i will look after. Janos

Miles and meters looks awkward on the same page, especially abbreviation "m." looks confusing - meters or miles. Since Carpathian mountians are in Europe I would propose to use meters-kilometers, maybe also miles in brackets.

Should perhaps the lunar mountain range be given a separate article? Same with various other lunar geographical features which are named for terrestrial ones and/or philosophers, scientists... --Brion 08:25 Oct 4, 2002 (UTC)
Some of them should be fairly easy to disambiguate, eg. Copernicus crater. But I'm not sure what to do about the Carpathian Mountains, both features have the same name and are the same sort of thing. Fortunately, there probably won't be very extensive information about any of the mountain ranges on the Moon available at this time. Bryan
Lunar Carpathian Mountains? Carpathian Mountains (Moon)? --Brion 08:54 Oct 4, 2002 (UTC)
I'd go with the second (Moon) one, for consistancy. Bryan


Origin of the term 'Carpathian' ?

The name is derived from the Slavonic word Chrb, which means mountain-range.


That's silly. The Dacian tribe of carps is closer phonetically and they lived in these mountains (the eastern slopes, in current Eastern Moldavia) long before the slavs arrived. Bogdan 20:34, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)

"...the Indo-European word "korpata" which means mountain or rock." There is no such Indo-European word or root, is there? The google hits all refer to this statement here at Misplaced Pages (not aiding our credibility). "Korpata" appears through google only on Slavic-language sites. What's up? Can we correct this? Wetman 19:26, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Of course Korpata is the Slavic version, but it is based on an Indo-european root (probably something like "krpa"). It also appears in some non-Slavic languages, more exactly some Indian languages. I saved this information somewhere but I can't find find it right now. I'll post it tomorrow. OK ? Bogdan | Talk 20:57, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)
err... I lost that link about that Indian language. Anyway, I found that in Armenian (which is thought to be related to Thracian), "k'ar" means stone and in Albanian it's "gur". Bogdan | Talk 13:10, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Actually, in Albanian also, "karpë" means "rock". Bogdan | Talk 18:53, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

There is attested a Cuman word 'kerpic' that meant 'baked brick'. Just thought I'd throw another one in the pot. No connection implied. Decius 04:48, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The name of the Carpathians was used long time before the Cumans came. Anyway, it is pretty silly to name some mountains "the Brick Mountains". On the other side, the Rocky Mountains is a pretty common name. Bogdan | Talk 11:50, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The term 'Carpathian' surely is directly linked to the name of the Carpi tribe. It's interesting though that there was an Aegean island named 'Karpathos'. Decius 04:51, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The old Czech word 'chrb' (hill, small hill, not 'mountain range') was also found as 'chrib', and there is in fact a place name formed from this word, but the name is Chribska, which is a far-cry from Carpathian. The Slavic idea is so scientifically worthless and ethnocentric that it should never again be mentioned in this or any other factual article. Decius 05:14, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Slightly off topic but I saw it mentioned that Armenian may be related to Thracian: despite the unfounded speculations of some individuals in the early half of the 20th century, there is no evidence of Thracian being close to Armenian, and I've looked at the table of PIE>Armenian sound-changes, and there is no way that those sound-changes could correspond with Dacian or Thracian. Looking at Thracian words and Romanian substratum words, it is obvious that the Romanian substratum words (and almost all the Thracian) have little relation or no relation to Armenian. Decius 05:30, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Unless I'm mistaken, there is no such Indo-European root as *krpa, and the closest thing I found is *Kar, meaning 'hard' (from which comes Greek 'karuon'=nut; and English 'hard'). Decius 05:37, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

BTW, what is there a PIE root for Latin "crepare" (>Rom. "crăpa") = to crack ? Bogdan | Talk 11:50, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)