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New information on Suleyman makes me suspect that the "first" Suleyman paragraph is a confused rendition of the information in the second. I won't remove the first, though, until I'm sure. -- Someone else 02:08, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Distinguish Asian and African

Could you please mark which of these elephants were Asian and which African? Especially the Hannibal ones. I thought that there were a group of Elephas, not Loxodonta, in Northern Africa that disappeared in historical times. Is that true? -- Error 01:50, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

El Bosco's elephant

The tryptichon painting by Hieronymus Bosch features a stunningly accurate elephant figure of the african variety as well as a less perfectly rendered, but still appearent giraffe. How could he, who never left northern Europe in his life, paint such a perfect african elephant, when it is well known that african elephants are untamably wild and cannot be trained? The first human rideable elephants of Garamba were tamed with modern behavioural biology technics in the 1960s. Therefore no one could ship a wild beast of african elephant to Europe in the medieval ages, only docile asian elephants. I think some form of photography must have existed at the time, else we cannot explain the origin of a perfect african elephant seen in Bosch's painting. 195.70.32.136 18:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Era notation

I feel strongly that editors should not edit for the sole purpose of changing BC to BCE or vise versa. It is a pet peeve of mine. Just let things be. An editor recently changed this article's notation, when it had been stable for over a year or so. I feel that there should be discussion and reason before a change like this should occur. It seems like the creator of this article did not use any era notation, and that another editor (not the creator) introduced BC first. What does everyone think? Should we change the era notation, or leave things be and find better things to waste our time on?-Andrew c 02:31, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

The point is that it was changed randomly without an explanation, by an overzealous editor. I don't think that we should just ignore this and leave it alone, simply because he was able to do without attracting interest, or because it's "been stable for over a year or so". And I looked at the edit history myself, and while the creator didn't introduce the era notion, it was originally BC/AD, and remained that way predominately throughout this article's history. Chooserr 02:37, 26 January 2007 (UTC)