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It may make more sense to place these entries in a table. --Milkmandan 04:26, 2004 Aug 21 (UTC)
You might want to move these in the List of cities in Slovakia. You can ask one of the admins if you want to delete and move instead of copy and past in order to keep the history. Unless you consider towns to be different from cities. Dori 22:26, Oct 25, 2003 (UTC)
Should the Russian name also be given? The signs for towns in Eastern Slovakia have Slovak and Russian on them. —Chris Capoccia 17:03, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
Of course not, this is not supposed to be a dictionary, the mentioning of German and Hungarian names has historical reasons. And they do not have "Russian" on it, but Ruthenian or Ukrainian. Juro 17:15, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- This is in a way strange for me. Article says that "ethnic minority represents 20% or more of the population, it has certain cultural and linguistic rights". 20%? For instance, in not so far history Klagenfurt was quite populated with Slovenes - (although in 2001 (Volkszählung 2001) according to de: wp there are 1.3% Slovenes living in the city (and even 3.3% Croats), and it is historically important to Slovenes; but I do not see any Slovene names in List of cities and towns in Austria. In Dobšiná in 2001 there were 0.63% Hungarians living in this town. Where is 20% and so forth...? --xJaM (talk) 19:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with XJamRastafire. New version will be without Magyar names, because alternative names are not important for English speakers. --Omen1229 (talk) 16:32, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
List of all cities and villages in Slovakia
I recently finished a (hopefully) complete list of all towns in Slovakia on the German Wiki, if somebody needs it try de:Liste der Städte und Gemeinden in der Slowakei. --murli 08:00, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Portal Slovakia.travel is official tourism portal in Slovakia. If you remove external link for these official information, I think it is not correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.28.83.29 (talk) 14:18, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Cities versus Towns
It should be considered and mentioned in this article that there is no Slovak vocabulary legal or otherwise that would distinguish between Cities and Towns as is done in Anglophone countries. Iswikinumber2 (talk) 05:57, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
New Tab
I suggest new tab, because current tab is obsolete. Czech republic and Hungary have good tabs. My version:
Name | Top population | Population | Metropolitan area | Area (km²) | Region |
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Bratislava | 471,061 (2009) | 471,061 (2009) | 660,000 | 367.584 | Bratislava Region |
Košice | 236,093 (2001) | 233,886 (2010) | 341,000 | 242.768 | Košice Region |
Prešov | 90,835 (2010) | 161,000 | 70.40 | Prešov Region | |
Žilina | 85,129 (2010) | 84,579 (2011) | 160,000 | 80.03 | Žilina Region |
Nitra | 87,285 (2001) | 83,444 (2010) | 160,000 | 100.48 | Nitra Region |
Banská Bystrica | 83,698(1991) | 79,819 (2010) | 110,000 | 103.37 | Banská Bystrica Region |
Trnava | 67,368 (2010) | 110,000 | 71.535 | Trnava Region | |
Martin | 57,987 (2010) | 105,000 | 67.736 | Žilina Region | |
Trenčín | 56,403 (2010) | 100,000 | 81.996 | Trenčín Region | |
Poprad | 54,271 (2010) | 100,000 | 62.997 | Prešov Region | |
Prievidza | 49,994 (2010) | 80,000 | 43.063 | Trenčín Region | |
Zvolen | 42,206 (2010) | 98.727 | Banská Bystrica Region | ||
Považská Bystrica | 41,510 (2010) | 90.555 | Trenčín Region | ||
Nové Zámky | 40,094 (2010) | 72.565 | Nitra Region | ||
Michalovce | 39,322 (2010) | 52.807 | Košice Region | ||
File:Coat of Arms of Spišská Nová Ves.svg Spišská Nová Ves | 37,887 (2010) | 66.672 | Košice Region | ||
Komárno | 35,664 (2010) | 102.807 | Nitra Region | ||
Levice | 34,872 (2010) | 60.996 | Nitra Region | ||
File:Coat of Arms of Humenné.svg Humenné | 34,620 (2010) | 28.762 | Prešov Region | ||
Bardejov | 33,362 (2010) | 72.78 | Prešov Region | ||
Liptovský Mikuláš | 32,284 (2010) | 70.109 | Žilina Region | ||
Ružomberok | 29,525 (2010) | 126.72 | Žilina Region | ||
Piešťany | 29,347 (2010) | 44.201 | Trnava Region | ||
Topoľčany | 28,271 (2010) | 27.576 | Nitra Region | ||
Lučenec | 27,348 (2010) | 47.791 | Banská Bystrica Region | ||
Čadca | 25,332 (2010) | 56.792 | Žilina Region | ||
Dubnica nad Váhom | 24,914 (2010) | 49.137 | Žilina Region | ||
Partizánske | 24,044 (2010) | 22.375 | Trenčín Region | ||
Rimavská Sobota | 24,040 (2010) | 77.550 | Banská Bystrica Region | ||
File:Coat of Arms of Šaľa.svg Šaľa | 23,645 (2010) | 44.967 | Nitra Region | ||
File:Coat of Arms of Trebišov.svg Trebišov | 23,521 (2010) | 70.160 | Košice Region | ||
Dunajská Streda | 23,404 (2010) | 31.451 | Trnava Region | ||
Vranov nad Topľou | 23,069 (2010) | 31.10 | Prešov Region | ||
Pezinok | 22,324 (2010) | 660,000 | 72.555 | Bratislava Region | |
Hlohovec | 22,232 (2010) | 64.125 | Trnava Region | ||
Brezno | 21,778 (2010) | 121.957 | Banská Bystrica Region | ||
Snina | 20,991 (2010) | 59.41 | Prešov Region | ||
Senica | 20,726 (2010) | 50.316 | Trnava Region |
I will continue and replace old tab. --Omen1229 (talk) 16:25, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
I second the new tab motion. Visually more appealing. Iswikinumber2 (talk) 19:53, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Merger Proposal
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- The result of this discussion was no consensus. Sirfurboy (talk) 14:37, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
@Hog Farm, Reywas92, Eastmain, Mccapra, ミラP, Darwinek, Dream Focus, Pontificalibus, Bearian, and Yeetstuff: I propose the merger of List of German exonyms for places in Slovakia and of List of Hungarian exonyms for places in Slovakia with this article. Neither of these articles contain encyclopaedic content on their own, and the first of these was put up for deletion. The deletion discussion had a consensus for keep as the information in the article is of benefit to readers (unlike other such lists that are generally deleted), but not in this location. Both these lists appear to be spun out from this page, and could easily be incorporated back into the main table of this page, making this article fuller, broader and more encyclopaedic, and allowing editors to focus on one page instead of three.
I note that the width of the table would increase, and suggest removing either the 2001 population column or the % change column. It is not clear why 2001 should be a special date for comparison, and having both columns, in any case, is not necessary. Removing one of these columns will create enough space for the merge.
The resulting list will, in fact, be more in line with what external sites want from Misplaced Pages. C.f the Maps7 site that sources Misplaced Pages but chose to bring this information together as it is more in line with what their readers want. Likewise a train timetabling site did the same with data taken from Misplaced Pages. -- Sirfurboy (talk) 14:21, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. The two effects I can foresee are 1. The table on this page will be unmanageably large and mess up the formatting and 2. The inclusion of old German names will upset Slovak nationalists who will keep trying to remove the names. Can we just leave everything as it is please, as each article appears to be doing its own job just fine? Mccapra (talk) 08:43, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. First, it would require a a complewte rw-write and coding from scratch. Secondly, German and Hungarian aren't even in the same family of languages (unless you believe in the unconfirmed Indo-Uralic languages hypothesis.). Just keep it as is. Bearian (talk) 14:20, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment - I expected concerns regarding width of the table and understand those. I will try an experiment and show a possible new layout in my sandbox when I get the time. That should allow an informed decision about what is proposed. I am a bit surprised by some of the other arguments for opposition though, and so will take a moment to deal with some of those. (1) The update is complex, requiring a table rewrite. This is not an argument! I will do the work. I expect I can write a simple script to do it. When dealing with structured text, that is usually not a problem. In any case, it is my time I am offering so this is not a reason not to do it. (2) The languages are not in the same families - but this is not the reason for the merge, and neither is it the reason we decided not to delete the lists. Per the AfD discussion, the reason these lists are useful is because of the history of Slovakia in the Austro-Hungarian empire, and the consequent German and Hungarian speaking minorities within the country. This is like having Welsh and English names on a list of place names in Wales (except perhaps for point 3 below). Further, it is useful information because many sources will refer to a town by a German or Hungarian name. That was the reason for keeping the lists and that is the reason for putting all information in one place (per the whole concept of a list). (3) Nationalists may deface the page. Yet I see no evidence they would. The minority languages coexist in Slovakia and are not oppressed. The current lists on the other pages are not being vandalised. I don’t see why this would become a target, and neither do I think we should curate our content because of the fear of possible retaliation by extremists, trolls or vandals. — Sirfurboy (talk) 15:33, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment - I have created a test in my sandbox, here: User:Sirfurboy/sandbox showing the combined table as it would be. This answers the points regarding the difficulty of recoding and also allows you to see how the information would fit in the merged format. This table is now wider, but it will reflow down on smaller screen sizes. -- Sirfurboy (talk) 23:11, 27 January 2020 (UTC)