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My bad

Hi Dabaqabad, your revert of my revert was entirely correct - I had not seen this table with the percentages before in my 2007 census document, which is not the first-draft document; but your document clearly has it, with the numbers that you correctly quoted. Please accept my apologies! Warm greetings, LandLing 11:46, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi,

That's fine, no problem! I was double checking my sources myself to make sure but glad you let me know. Dabaqabad (talk) 13:38, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

User warnings on user page

Hi Dabaqabad, I noticed that you left three user warning messages on this user page – these are normally posted to user talk pages instead, so I have blanked them and moved one to User talk:Abdiaziz23. You might also want to look at tools like Twinkle and RedWarn for a more convenient way of leaving messages like these in the future, but please take it easy and read all relevant documentation beforehand. Thanks! AngryHarpy‍ 05:48, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

@AngryHarpy: Hi, thank you very much! I must've gotten carried away reverting this guy's many unconstructive edits to not have noticed.

I recently got around to using Twinkle and I gotta say it makes things so much easier. I'm still learning but I think I'll get the hang of it. Thanks! Dabaqabad (talk) 13:36, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

June 2021

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Somaliland propaganda

I’m darod from Sanaag we also live in sool and canyn we are majority but why are you erasing our demographics and history and vandalising our pages and pushing forward your Somaliland propaganda we are pro Somalia ?

You have been deleting our identity nonstop Beentawaaxaraam (talk) 07:37, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

June 2021

It may not have been your intention, but one of your edits, specifically one that you made on 2021 Somaliland parliamentary election, may have been a change that some consider controversial. Due to this, your edits may have been reverted. When making possibly controversial changes, it is good practice to first discuss your edit on the article's talk page before making it, to gain consensus over whether or not to include the text, phrasing, etc. If you believe that the information you added was correct, please initiate that discussion. Thank you. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 16:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

June 21

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A barnstar for you!

		The Somaliland Barnstar of National Merit

Badhan, Sanaag

I noticed that in the infobox (settlement template is being used) there is a parameter called parts_type. This parameter defaults to 'Borough'. It is for listing local government areas within the settlement. In this case the parameter is being used to display the word 'control' rather than the name of a local government area. Control is an ambiguous word which is not normally used in info-boxes. It could mean military control, financial control, political control etc. Imo, the country or state which the settlement is in should be stated in the infobox. The sovereign state may also be placed in the info-box, but if that is going to spark controversy then it doesn't have to be. 'Control' is something that can be included in the text if there are reliable sources, because it needs to be explained what is meant by the word, but does not belong in the infobox. If there is a lack of consensus, third opinion or request for comment should resolve it. Amirah talk 17:13, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi @AmirahBreen:,

The issue is Badhan is not under the effective control of any one side. Both Somaliland and Puntland have influence there and both have in multiple instances deployed troops in the town. A control section would not adequately describe the situation, and would imply that one side has total control over the town, which is not the case. In addition, a situation map made by the European Asylum Support Office marks the town as controlled by Somaliland () while it is marked as shared by the situation map of the Somali Civil War article ().

An efn tag right next to "Somaliland" which explains that Puntland has partial control of the town would be suitable in this case. This would be in line with my Kosovo approach which you can read about on Shirshore's talk page.

Dabaqabad (talk) 18:07, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I'll go with that as you wish, but I have some further thoughts on the issue. Firstly, 'Influence' is not the same as 'control' and the deployment of troops is also not usually mentioned in infoboxes on places. For example, AMISOM has deployed troops in various places in Somalia, but that doesn't mean that AMISOM controls Somalia (does it?) it means that AMISOM is there to help control certain security situations in Somalia. If a page were about a battle which took place in a particular location, then yes I would expect to find statistics in the infobox about troops deployed there, but not on a page about a place. Another example, British forces were deployed in Bielefeld, Germany, but that doesn't mean they controlled the city. Again, you would not have expected it to be in the infobox on the city, but you would find it in the text. Secondly, I think who is in power politically (both locally and nationally) is a stronger indication of who controls a town or city than the presence of military in the area. So, it's the reason the troops were deployed (to prevent voter registration according to the article) rather than the fact that they were/are there which is important. I suggest that a note in the infobox to say that - Somaliland's attempts at electoral registration in January 2021 were hindered by the presence of PSF troops in the area - would be applicable as this is substantiated by the article text and the names of local politicians would normally appear in the infobox on a place. Amirah talk 19:19, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

I agree with most of what you're saying. Despite Puntland sending troops to Badhan voting registration still happened (per SLNTV report ), as well as in Dhahar (). Badhan also partook in the latest two presidential elections of Somaliland (, Ctrl+F and search "Badhan"). In a note next to Somaliland in the infobox you could add that Puntland has significant influence in the area or partial control. That should be fine and accurately describe the situation. Dabaqabad (talk) 19:56, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. I have amended the parts_type parameter and added a footnote instead. Amirah talk 21:18, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Somali Civil War

The map in the infobox doesn't have a key (to say what the colour coding represents) so it would help if one were produced. Also any information given on a map should be backed up in the text, if it is not and information on the map is disputed, perhaps there should be a discussion on the talk page about whether the map should be updated or removed from the page. Amirah talk 19:39, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

@AmirahBreen: The map is accurate and has been in the article since at least 2006. Since the Puntland-Somaliland dispute is not part of the Somali Civil War any addition to it would be irrelevant.

The map does indeed contain a key (see ). Dabaqabad (talk) 19:56, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

I've added a key to the infobox now. Amirah talk 10:39, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Looks good! Thank you. Dabaqabad (talk) 15:11, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

August 2021

Hello. Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Misplaced Pages, as you did at Puntland. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

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3rd party request

Hi User:Dabaqabad please open up a 3rd party request so our dispute can be resolved. I also noted you left a warning on my page I'd appreciate it if you didn't since this goes against Misplaced Pages guidelines. Thank you. Wadamarow (talk) 01:36, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for being reasonable on the Islamic Emirate thing

Half of the arguments against the merger rely on the faulty argument the Emirate stopped existing after 2001. They didn’t. The ‘Taliban’ in the Taliban insurgency ARE them, and we just switched to the nickname and called it an insurgency instead of a civil war because we thought they had lost……and they didn’t.

I personally think the “Taliban” article should be merged in as well. 3 phases. Pre-Civil War, Civil War, and Post-Civil War. all on one article, because it’s the same exact Emirate continuously.

Help me out if you can.

Hello,

It is absurd to split the article into two separate articles when it's the exact same entity. As for the Taliban article, I don't think a merger is necessary. The article covers the organization itself, while the Emirate article covers the government that the organization rules. Same way the US government and the Democratic party both have separate articles. Dabaqabad (talk) 13:05, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

You appear to have violated WP:3RR at Awdal

Hello Dabaqabad. Please see my comment on the edit warring complaint. There may still be time for you to explain why you should not be blocked. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 18:21, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

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unification between Somaliland and Somalia

Hello @Dabaqabad: i hope you are fine

What do you think if you create an article about unification between Somaliland and Somalia. The article can help many people about the history of Somalia and Somaliland. Like Yemeni unification article

Of course if you have time. Many Tahnks--Siirski (talk) 11:31, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello Siirski,

I'll consider it. It's a very interesting topic that needs to be covered. I'll get to making the article soon.

Many thanks, Dabaqabad (talk) 13:03, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

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About deleting descriptions

I think there are some problems with your editing in Wadamago. I think your interpretation of "home well" is wrong (see Hunt, p.154, section 465), but I will try to comment on your understanding as correct. With edits like yours, the description will just be lost. For example, in this case, instead of deleting the entire sentence, you can rewrite the sentence "Wadamago is inhabited by the Musa Arreh..." as "Wadamago's well was used by the Musa Arreh...". In general, Wikipedian spends a great deal of time looking for sources for articles. Please be more respectful of other people's edits and attempt to erase as little of the description as possible.--Freetrashbox (talk) 10:47, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

The town is inhabited fully by the Solomadow subclan of the Habr Je'lo, as the other sources claim. The Musa Arreh do not reside in Sool region.

I hope that this clears up any misunderstandings Dabaqabad (talk) 16:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)