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Identity Theory criticisms unfounded

"Despite its initial plausibility, the identity theory faces a strong challenge in the form of the thesis of multiple realizability, first formulated by Hilary Putnam." This section has a ton of weasel words and the citations do not support the statements made. Footnote 27 is not a source that supports the sentence "identity theory faces a strong challenge in the form of the thesis of multiple realizability"; it is a reference to Hilary Putnam's paper which attempts to dispute identity theory and—by any rational account—fails. It is not a challenge at all to identity theory, let along a "strong" one. A diverse array of organisms can all feel pain and all have different brains, there's no issue with that. A proponent of Identity theory would just say that each of those experiences would be slightly different, in the same way that all humans will have slightly different experiences of pain because we ourselves don't have exactly the same physical brains. Footnote 27 is also used at the end of the sentence "The identity theory is thus empirically unfounded." Again, the linked source does not say that.

FA assessment status after 10 years

The original FA for this article with its gold star was granted in 2006 over 10 years ago, and the lead editor is long retired from Misplaced Pages over 5 years ago. The original 2006 FA article was well-written, coherent, and useful for persons interested in a short and clear introduction to this subject matter. The current article has had numerous scattered and non-specific edits added by numerous editors over the years since then which do not appear very well-presented or even marginally organized; this has led to the current highly complex and overly long format for the article's outline. At some point since 2006, it appears that an attempt was made by some editors to synthesize an extensive east-meets-west version of this article with possible asides made concerning the usefulness of yoga. Would the article benefit from being returned to a non-peer reviewed status for re-development, or, perhaps the original FA version of the article from 2006 could be restored which did not make recommendations for the use of yoga. CodexJustin (talk) 18:32, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Considering that notice was given almost two years ago, and this article is still not at standard, it needs to go to FAR. It is 50% larger than the FA version (meaning a good amount of the text has not been vetted), has numerous lists and quote farms, and large swatches of uncited text, an enormous navbox chunked in to the lead, incorrect use of bolding, breach of naming with repeat of the title in section headings, poor use of summary style, cleanup needed at See also Further reading and External links, inconsistent citation formatting, in addition to the issues raised above. At FAR, the possibility of reverting to the featured version can be reviewed. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:26, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Any one can submit the review; the instructions are at WP:FAR. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:49, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Evolution of spirit from breath, wind, speech, dreams and madness

From sections in the book of Job and Psalms as well as the late book of Eccelestias (Koheleth) that much of the linguistic meaning of "spirit" comes from the behavior of objects animated and moved seemingly on their own by wind and the connection between wind and breath. The Hebrew word for spirit is eather Rooaahh the sound of blowing wind and the sound of coughing, or "Neffesh" with the root N.F.Sh the nasal sounds of blowing (N.Sh.F), or "Neshamma" (root N.Sh.M) meaning breathing in. The nose in Hebrew is Aff or Annff the mouth Feh or Peh, the lips Saffah, the tooth Shenn, and face Pnneh. Snorting sound is Hhaarrah (Hh.R.H) also meaning anger, or Annaaff (A.N.F), while life is HHy. (Notice that in the English language breath, lips, mouth, teeth, death, froth, nose, snore, anger, all use similar consonants as well)

Wind itself can be felt, but cannot be cought in the hand or seen. Wind (air) can fill a skin bag made from animal intestines and used to make a fire grow or blow out. It animates the tree-heads, and comes as a side effect to heavenly wars where loud explosions and arrows can be seen shooting between the stars and pouring rain and cold until the grand sun comes out and makes heavenly peace, and raises the blackness (SheHhorr). For example Psalms 18.

These descriptions are common in the Bible, as well as in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic and Mesopotanian cuneiform inscriptions. At the end of the book of Ecclestias Koheleth says: "And the earth shall go back to the ground and the wind will go back to the Gods who gave it".

The ability to talk using the "wind of the mouth" - breath, is also associated with conciousness, and so you have a wind in you (a spirit) that speaks your thoughts, and a mad person, especially with personality disorder has a "bad wind" enter their body, and use it to send out the bad wind's words. (Genessis: and he blew into his nose

It is quite obvious that these were the ancient beliefs in the east reaching the early Greek philosophers who systematically discussed it for the first time.

I am quite sure I read about these beliefs and am not the first to notice them. I will be grateful to anyone who can help me find sources for this. I think it is important to have at least a mention of that information in this article and other articles on dualism and spiritualism etc.פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 09:39, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Spirit and vitality

IMHO there should be some mention of the connection between Dualism and the belief in Vitality (which brought the 19th century materialists to claim there was no existing neural synapsis to be seen under the microscope, while the vitalists claimed that it was proof to the existence of the life spirit).פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 09:42, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

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