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Articles for deletionThis article was nominated for deletion on 2 September 2012 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.
This article was nominated for merging with Ramil Safarov on 18 September 2012. The result of the discussion was No consensus.

Response

I added a section about the Azeri response to the murder of Markaryan. I felt that it was important to note that Safarov's actions do not appear to be widely condemned by the Azerbaijani government, but are rather promoted as an example to follow. If there are any significant opinions in Azerbaijan to the contrary, please add them to this section. Augustgrahl

Baku87 what do you call the IWPR? VartanM (talk) 06:44, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Politics

Seems like political motivations why there is an issue this should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.109.96.114 (talk) 10:57, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

marked for deletion - why?

I find it very strange that this page was marked for deletion now, shortly after the scandal broke out. It is here for 6 years already. Kozka (talk) 15:25, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

All in favor of keeping this this article?
Aye! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khimaris (talk • contribs) 18:08, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

budapest.info

Can someone tell me what's wrong with budapest.info? It is the only website available that gives near complete coverage of the murder. So what if it is Armenian, you can't discriminate against sources based on their origin. If you have any other concerns about it, I'm open to hearing you. George Spurlin (talk) 08:46, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Do not slander! My comment here. You know it. You can not forgotten that. --Esc2003 (talk) 09:13, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
Who and when did I slander? Do you have another website that gives this much information about the subject? George Spurlin (talk) 09:46, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
You says: the only reason that was given was because it was Armenian If no verifiable information in this website, more much information, who cares? --Esc2003 (talk) 10:01, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
Since day one you have been attacking the site because it was Armenian, that's not slander, that's stating the facts. If you can't provide alternatives, why are you attacking the only available one? George Spurlin (talk) 11:00, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
My justification is obvious. Armenian or Azerbaijani does not matter to me. You can not close that subject to citing the excuse of discrimination or racism. I'm sorry, but attacker person is only you. Everyone understand my rationale (although my bad English). --Esc2003 (talk) 11:51, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
But you have numerous times pointed out that it was pro-Armenian. Please, if you can state what is wrong with the site, so we can discuss it. I'm sorry if you feel that I attacked you, I have no interest of attacking anyone. George Spurlin (talk) 14:28, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

* -Esc2003 (talk) 09:13, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was no consensus. Last comment made over half a year ago, so time to close. Iselilja (talk) 07:39, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Merger

Currently both articles Gurgen Margaryan and Ramil Safarov are essentially about the murder case and related developments, such as international reactions. This leads to a duplication of effort. It is also contrary to WP:1E, which says: "When an individual is significant for his or her role in a single event, it may be unclear whether an article should be written about the individual, the event or both. ... The general rule in many cases is to cover the event, not the person." For these reasons, I propose merging both articles into a single one about the murder case,Murder of Gurgen Margaryan. That article would have subsections for the biographies of both men.  Sandstein  08:53, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Oppose - Ramil Safarov is known for at least two events: the murder he committed in 2004 and his controversial extradition and pardon in 2012. The second event received probably even more publicity in the world than the first one. So it's clearly not the case of a single event (WP:1E). --Daniel (talk) 10:39, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
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Requested move 27 September 2021

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Gurgen Margaryan → Murder of Gurgen Margaryan – The guy is only notable for being murdered, so WP:BIO1E/WP:VICTIM applies. There is also a lot of content in the Ramil Safarov ‎ article that belongs in the event article. (t · c) buidhe 11:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

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