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New Hampshire's Motto

{{edit semi-protected "Patrick Henry’s words were powerful and amply striking that an entire state population of New Hampshire adopted them as their motto." }}

I would like to add the following sentence under sections in Patrick Henry's Misplaced Pages page that discuss his political speeches where there is not mention whatsoever of his popular phrase being adopted by the State of New Hampshire as its motto, but a bullying has resulted in disregarding other possibilities including that oral stories commonly practiced in ancient New England preserved Henry's words during times of excessive tyrannical rule, because of frequent acts of terror including burnings of property and materials: "Wyatt's words were powerful and amply striking that an entire state population of New Hampshire adopted them as their motto."

The Winstons

I know this isn't genealogy, but should one mention the father of his mother, Isaac Winston? Supposedly that Welsh side of his family is where he got his oratorical skills. Cake (talk) 21:35, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Statement about Mr. Henry's opposition to the constitution marring his historical image

I previously had made a revision of this page to remove the part about " a fight which has marred his historical image." in the introduction. Since then, user:Wehwalt has reverted this change on the grounds that the affirmation is supported in the legacy section.

I've read the Legacy and historical view section and still think it is a non neutral point of view. The section mentions Mr. Kid's opinion that his opposition to the constitution provokes discomfort and Mr. Beeman's opinion that he was a short-sighted looser, because he could not see the national greatness of the constitution. These to me, seem inherently non neutral viewpoints, which assume that the constitution was good, and consequently, opposition to it bad. I think these views do have a place in the section, but I do not think they support the categorical statement that this opposition marred his historical image. Whatever you think of him, the fact is that he opposed ratification of the US constitution. Whether it is thought by some to be a bad thing is the subject of further exposition in the article. Tigre200 (talk) 16:32, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

The statement is not meant to judge the worth of the opinions, simply that they are there. But if you feel the statement should not be there, I'm OK with removing it.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:20, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

small issue

I see you strike out "At the Convention, Henry, who was famous for his Give me liberty, or give me death! speach in 1775, now argued against the Constitution with the infamous words: "They'll free your niggers", as he tried to convince the slavholding delegats to vote against a strong federal government." Make more sense now to me.

"... a speech by Henry on the subject of the Constitution and Smith's own rebuttal", is this means, Henry have made some speech before the ratification convention, which I could found , Smith doesn't approved Henry's action so arrange students to read it loud, make him feel bad?--Jarodalien (talk) 08:36, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

"At least three ships have been named in Henry's honor: the Civil War Confederate Navy steamboat CSS Patrick Henry, World War II Liberty ship SS Patrick Henry and the ballistic missile submarine USS Patrick Henry (SSBN-599)", perhaps add a footnote for this.--Jarodalien (talk) 08:45, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Although Misplaced Pages is not a reliable source, the links themselves provide the necessary verification in this case.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:22, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
I understand, but I can't found source within the first article.--Jarodalien (talk) 11:09, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Infobox not mentioning legislative service

While the current infobox mentions Henry's terms as governor, Virginia's governors of that era were elected by fellow legislators. Although I recognize this is a fine article, really much of his fame was for legislative activities (including orations). A longer infobox would not only illustrate his constituencies, it also would balance the long table of contents. FYI, I can't see whether this is mentioned in previously archived talk pages, so apologize if this repeats ground.Jweaver28 (talk)

He represented, I think, some five or six counties. If this could be consolidated into one infobox entry, such as we do with William McKinley, I'd be fine with it.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:19, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
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