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Deleting CSD's
Okay, well, you've got me doing some deleting of CSD's, along with a number of other people, so that's a good thing, although the efficacy of the intensifiers in your wording decreases with each use.
Technical question: Of course I check the page history before doing a deletion. But sometimes when I take the time to check the history, all that is there is the creation of the page, and then the application of the speedy tag. It's probably more trouble than it's worth, but would there be any way to code so that the application of a tag doesn't count as a new version for the purpose of advising whether there is a page history or not? Regards, Newyorkbrad 00:43, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I dunno, that's kind of complicated. What counts as a page history? Frequently it will take someone multiple tries to get it right anyway. How are you determining if there is a page history without pressing the history tab anyway? As for intensifiers, there are entire vast realms of profanity that I have not even stepped foot into yet. --Cyde Weys 01:23, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- It says that there is a page history, so I check it. If my suggestion were doable, it wouldn't say there was a page history if there were only two contributions (the original page creation and then the tag). But this won't be implemented until you suggest creating an admin-bot to do it, whereupon Werdna will hard-code it overnight. Regards, Newyorkbrad 01:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- What says there is a page history? I'm not understanding what you're talking about. As far as I can tell, the history tab is always blue, so nothing is ever going to tell you there's no page history until you click through to see it. --Cyde Weys 02:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- Go to CSD and pick any article. On my screen, at least, there will be two blue mentions of the history, one of which says "Warning: The page you are about to delete has a history: Page history" and the second is the regular mention of the history. Now go to Special:Newpages and find an article that was just created, so it only has one edit. The "Warning" sentence (which was very useful to me as a newbie admin to stop me from deleting a recently vandalized but otherwise good article) won't be there. That's what I'm referring to. Newyorkbrad 02:37, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, gotcha. I don't really see a good way to remedy this, though. --Cyde Weys 03:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe it could say "this page has a history of X revisions". If X equals two, you know you don't have to click on it. >Radiant< 15:07, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- This is a good idea. It doesn't seem like it would be too hard to implement. Want to talk to Werdna about it? It'd have to be introduced as a MediaWiki patch, of course, which is not my area of expertise. --Cyde Weys 15:09, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- I've dropped him a line. >Radiant< 15:25, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- This is a good idea. It doesn't seem like it would be too hard to implement. Want to talk to Werdna about it? It'd have to be introduced as a MediaWiki patch, of course, which is not my area of expertise. --Cyde Weys 15:09, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, gotcha. I don't really see a good way to remedy this, though. --Cyde Weys 03:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- Go to CSD and pick any article. On my screen, at least, there will be two blue mentions of the history, one of which says "Warning: The page you are about to delete has a history: Page history" and the second is the regular mention of the history. Now go to Special:Newpages and find an article that was just created, so it only has one edit. The "Warning" sentence (which was very useful to me as a newbie admin to stop me from deleting a recently vandalized but otherwise good article) won't be there. That's what I'm referring to. Newyorkbrad 02:37, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- What says there is a page history? I'm not understanding what you're talking about. As far as I can tell, the history tab is always blue, so nothing is ever going to tell you there's no page history until you click through to see it. --Cyde Weys 02:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Template:Smiley
Can I ask why you are deleting this out of process? The TfD is not yet over and I see plenty of keep comments there. --Majorly (o rly?) 16:01, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
It had already been done before and ended up deleted. No reason to retread the same stale debates. Plus, the way this one was implemented, with a huge switch statement, was absolutely hideous, and makes it impossible to replace with substitution. --Cyde Weys 19:34, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Template:Spname
Why was Template:Spname deleted? I would just like to know. On the deletion log, "Huh?!" was left. What was wrong with it? How was it so much worse than other userboxes out there?Orin LincolnÆ 00:25, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
"Template:Spname" isn't a userbox though. Maybe "Template:User spname" might be one, though it really should be in user, rather than template, space. --Cyde Weys 19:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Okay, well I moved it to User:Orin^soren/Userboxes/Spname. That puts it under the "User" namespace as opposed to the "Template" namespace. Write on my talk page if you have any problems with that. OrinLincoln | TalkContributions 19:16, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
That's fine. It's not controversial or anything, and it's in userspace, so I shan't be touching it further. Thanks for understanding. --Cyde Weys 19:25, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
AntiVandalBot
Why has AntiVandalBot not been reverting for a long time? I see no notice of a problem on its userpage. --TeckWiz Contribs@ 21:50, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Technical difficulties. --Cyde Weys 22:07, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
WGO exists
If you lived in the Ilam, Avonhead or Burnside areas in Christchurch, New Zealand you would know of the Westgrove OGs and their activities. Stop trying to delete the page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.238.149.192 (talk) 03:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC).
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IRC. Dead serious.
As much as you want to remain neutral and suppose that Bumm13 is a "good guy", you're humouring yourself. He's actually a jerk, and apparently gets his kicks from banning me and knowing I can't do jack about it. If you don't believe me, read this. I'm actually quoting from the time I discovered that, for the first time in two weeks, I could go on #wikipedia.
<Flameviper> Hello? <Flameviper> OMG, I can post on #wikipedia again! <bumm13> Flameviper: I can fix that :) <Flameviper> What? You have been banned from #wikipedia.
Seriously, this guy doesn't know when to stop being a bully. Because if he pulled that shit on the real Misplaced Pages, he'd get desysopped in a second's time. I'm sick of being shoved around on IRC. I'm a user, too. I contribute to Misplaced Pages, just like anyone else. And I deserve some respect, from him and you. Good day, sir. ~ Flameviper 19:55, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Here, let me present the unedited version of the logs. Then maybe you can see what the problem is.
<Flameviper> Hey Bumm! <Flameviper> Oh, yah. Me is unbanned. <bumm13> Flameviper: we can fix that ;p <Flameviper> Sorry to ruin your conversation, but OMG LOL WTF ROFL BBQ WOOT PWNED!!!!! *** ChanServ sets mode: +o bumm13
--Cyde Weys 23:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- There's not much of a difference. Saying that string of abbreviations once wasn't extremely disruptive enough to warrant a ban. I say that kind of stuff all the time, and nothing happens, and nobody cares. Bumm had a vendetta to carry out, which was conveniently facilitated by an extremely minor offense. It's like a police officer shooting to kill when pulling someone over for a traffic ticket, just because they don't like that person. ~ Flameviper 23:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually, no, I don't think being banned from an IRC channel is analogous to getting shot to death by a cop. If anything, being banned from an IRC channel is analogous to a citation given from a police officer. You've clearly been causing problems in that channel for awhile now, and I don't why in the world you would immediately go back to causing problems as soon as you were let back in. You need to get some common sense. You were previously banned for disruptive behavior. So why would you immediately continue that disruptive behavior, thus reinstating the ban, and then go on to start blaming other people, when it was really your own fault for not controlling your own behavior?
As for "Saying that stuff all the time, and nothing happens, and nobody cares" — well guess what, obviously things do happen, and people do care. Nobody likes someone who's being obnoxious, which you've basically admitted to. Just because (most of the time) other people are polite enough or mature enough to ignore it or excuse it doesn't mean that it's acceptable. Just knock it off. --Cyde Weys 00:27, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- I say things like "shitting dicknipples" all the time on #freenode-social, and I change the topics in #illogicopedia, but nobody cares. Do you know why? Because they don't have a vendetta against me. And the joy of being unbanned after not being able to go on for a week being suddenly released in a spurt of happiness is barely comparable to "disruptive behaviour". ~ Flameviper 00:45, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- Why don't you go ahead and ask the people on #freenode-social and #illogicopedia if they really appreciate your behavior? Just because you aren't getting punished for something doesn't mean that it's acceptable, or that people don't think you're an ass for doing it. --Cyde Weys 00:51, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- That's beside the point. The point is that I got banned from #wikipedia for an incredibly flimsy reason, and oh, did I mention that the banning chanop has an incredibly massive vendetta against me? Coincidence? I think not. ~ Flameviper 00:55, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- No, it's not beside the point at all. It is the point. Nobody who's acting reasonably has any problem with getting banned from #wikipedia. You've been acting unreasonably. There is no vendetta; you're just being obnoxious. Nobody wants someone around who's spewing nonsense like "Sorry to ruin your conversation, but OMG LOL WTF ROFL BBQ WOOT PWNED!!!!!" or "shitting dicknipples". If it wasn't bumm13 banning you it'd be someone else (perhaps me, if I actually read that channel more often). --Cyde Weys 00:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- What was the happiest moment in your life, Cyde? ~ Flameviper 01:03, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'm going to pretend that you didn't say that and give you a second chance to say something productive. --Cyde Weys 05:35, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- What was the happiest moment in your life, Cyde? ~ Flameviper 01:03, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- No, it's not beside the point at all. It is the point. Nobody who's acting reasonably has any problem with getting banned from #wikipedia. You've been acting unreasonably. There is no vendetta; you're just being obnoxious. Nobody wants someone around who's spewing nonsense like "Sorry to ruin your conversation, but OMG LOL WTF ROFL BBQ WOOT PWNED!!!!!" or "shitting dicknipples". If it wasn't bumm13 banning you it'd be someone else (perhaps me, if I actually read that channel more often). --Cyde Weys 00:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- That's beside the point. The point is that I got banned from #wikipedia for an incredibly flimsy reason, and oh, did I mention that the banning chanop has an incredibly massive vendetta against me? Coincidence? I think not. ~ Flameviper 00:55, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- Why don't you go ahead and ask the people on #freenode-social and #illogicopedia if they really appreciate your behavior? Just because you aren't getting punished for something doesn't mean that it's acceptable, or that people don't think you're an ass for doing it. --Cyde Weys 00:51, 6 February 2007 (UTC)