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Alan Hale article
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Did You Know?The article got just over 12,000 views due to DYK appearance (See here), but my analysis indicates it would have been ~38,000 if not fot DYK hook modification by DYK admins. RobP (talk) 13:44, 11 February 2017 (UTC) TweetThis article was sent in a tweet by Misplaced Pages's Twitter account on 11/8/16, resulting in over 13,000 pageviews (slightly more than its DYK posting results). On 18 October 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alan Hale (astronomer), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Alan Hale, who discovered Comet Hale–Bopp (pictured), said that he "predicted" its appearance would trigger suicides—and it turned out he was right? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alan Hale (astronomer). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Alan Hale (astronomer)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 18 October 2016 (UTC)Good article nominationThe article Alan Hale (astronomer) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Alan Hale (astronomer) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hawkeye7 -- Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:21, 13 October 2017 (UTC) Original noticeHi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Alan Hale (astronomer) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hawkeye7 -- Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:20, 13 October 2017 (UTC) |
Bob Cenker article
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Did You Know?On 28 June 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Robert J. Cenker, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that RCA's only astronaut, civilian Bob Cenker, narrowly avoided catastrophe during his mission on Space Shuttle Columbia, which experienced several launch-pad aborts and almost exploded? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Robert J. Cenker. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Robert J. Cenker), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. IronGargoyle (talk) 00:03, 28 June 2017 (UTC)This article's DYK appearance garnered 9,493 pageviews, enough to have it listed in the permanent DYK Statistics Archive. RobP (talk) 02:56, 17 August 2018 (UTC) Good article nominationSummary: The article was promoted to a GA on 2/9/18, but shortly thereafter rolled-back to a B when the original reviewer was chastised for routinely doing shallow reviews. After making a set of small changes requested by a second reviewer, Mike_Christie, the GA status was again granted to the article on 2/17/18. Original noticeHi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Robert J. Cenker you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of RadioFan -- RadioFan (talk) 20:01, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
@Kees08:
Good article approval (Original)The article Robert J. Cenker you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Robert J. Cenker for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of RadioFan -- RadioFan (talk) 17:41, 9 February 2018 (UTC) Rereview of Robert J. CenkerHi -- I wanted to let you know that the GA review of Robert J. Cenker has been reopened; see here. I've completed a new review of the article and have left some notes on the the GA review page. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:22, 15 February 2018 (UTC) Good article approval (Update)
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Science Moms article
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Article creationA page you started (Science Moms) has been reviewed! Thanks for creating Science Moms, Rp2006! Misplaced Pages editor Animalparty just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:
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Did You Know?On 15 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Science Moms, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the goal of the Science Moms documentary is to challenge the anti-GMO, anti-vaccination, pro-alternative medicine culture affecting parents? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Science Moms. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Science Moms), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 00:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)DYK History:
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Kenny Biddle article (deleted via AfD)
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Bob Nygaard article
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Article creationI published the Bob Nygaard article on 2-25-18. DYK nomination and discussionHello! Your submission of Bob Nygaard at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 21:51, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
DYK resultsThis article's DYK appearance garnered 11,127 pageviews, enough to have it listed in the permanent DYK Statistics Archive. RobP (talk) 03:11, 17 August 2018 (UTC) Did You Know?On 11 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bob Nygaard, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Bob Nygaard, a private investigator specializing in psychic fraud, has been instrumental in the return of millions of dollars to victims of this crime? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bob Nygaard. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Bob Nygaard), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 11 April 2018 (UTC) |
The Photo Ark article
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Copying within Misplaced Pages requires proper attribution
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- I mostly added new information but I do believe some was copied from Belgium page into the Belgium section of the Triangle page. Thanks for the info... I was unaware of these rules! RobP (talk) 23:02, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
FDA vs FTC in Homeopathy
Hey, I like your recent additions to Homeopathy but it seems like you've interchanged "FDA" and "FTC" in the text a little. For instance the citation you added named "FDA2016" is actually an FTC document and although it mentions the FDA in passing, doesn't commit the FDA to doing anything. Likewise the next sentence talks about "an FDA press release" but the citation is to a press release on the FTC website. I was going to fix it for you but I figured you might still be editing and I just thought I'd call it out. --Krelnik (talk) 20:38, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
- Ooops! Thanks for pointing that out. Should be all FTC - and should be correct now. If I missed anything else, feel free to fix it.RobP (talk) 20:50, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
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- I added 2016 FDA ruling (previously added to article) to the lede as a summary. Also added associated FTC info to article.
Notice of noticeboard discussion
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- Hello @Guy Macon: I followed this link and can find nothing! Can you elaborate? RobP (talk) 23:19, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- It was closed and archived. You can find it in the archives at . --Guy Macon (talk) 13:33, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Your GA review of Osteopathy
Rp2006, if you wish to do a valid review of this article, please follow the instructions at WP:GANI. Reviews should go by this process, and occur on their own page, not be inserted directly on the article's talk page. I'm going to revert your edit there; you are welcome to open the review properly and include your comments on that page, and then close it per the instructions. Thank you for your cooperation. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:50, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
- I have just looked at the article history, and I see that you've made 16 edits to the article. According to the GA instructions, reviewers should
Not be the nominator nor have made significant contributions to the article prior to the review
. Since that is the case, you may not be eligible to review it. What I would suggest instead is to post your issues on the talk page, and how the article falls short of the GA criteria, though not as a formal GA review. When the article does get a reviewer, you can then post a pointer to your talk-page post on the review page, and any further explanation you feel appropriate. Thanks again. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:01, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
Rollback granted
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Change to RPM reverted.
Your change to RPM has been reverted. Per WP:MALPLACED, please do not point "Foo" titles to "Foo (disambiguation)" titles. Also, please do not ever change the nature of a redirect with a large number of incoming links without first obtaining consensus. Please note that all incoming links must be fixed before such a change is made. bd2412 T 15:59, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
"Paranormal" and UFOs
Please do not add "paranormal" banner to pages such as Majestic 12 and other articles, when the explanation for these events are either a hoax, or has been explained in ways that have nothing to do with any paranormal activities. If you disagree, please take your reasons to the article(s) Talk page. Thank you and regards, David J Johnson (talk) 21:44, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- Copying my response from Talk:Roswell UFO incident:
- @David J Johnson:: To me, your take that this and other UFO-related articles should not connected with the word "paranormal" is extremely odd. What do you make of the fact that the paranormal side banner (which you deleted) actually includes UFOs in its list, and that most all UFO topics have the WikiProject Paranormal banner on their talk pages? Also note that in the category listed below for this article, "paranormal" is included numerous times. As I understand it, your objection to this is because UFO's are not "real"? Well (likely) neither is Bigfoot or ghosts or energy healing, so are you going to claim those - or anything else that is wrong or a hoax - is not a valid paranormal topic either? If that were true, then nothing at all would be classified that way, and the word would lose all meaning! RobP (talk) 00:50, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Answered on the Roswell Talk page, as previously requested by myself. David J Johnson (talk) 09:07, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
WikiProject Skepticism contact
Just a note that I have replied to your questions there, in case you're not watching the page. Thanks, — PaleoNeonate — 12:28, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Rebuttal section argument
Hey, with all due respect, why in the world did you remove the rebuttal section in this article, here?
Thank you for weighing in on the about your edit. However, your removal of this section has made the article one-sided and biased.
I agree my edit was "too short," but what do you propose as the solution. Please don't complain unless you have a better idea. I mean, all that psychic stuff is spooky (and I honestly don't know whether it's true or not), but you have this huge section "against" the subject, and the small section "for" him was deleted, making a biased article even more biased. This is not encyclopedic.
But, if you mean that my edit (adding the rebuttal section in right here) was too brief and curt, I would agree with you. Help me fix that, so the article is balanced and explains both (or all) sides of the issue. Thank you.96.59.177.219 (talk) 04:58, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
- To be fair, I also added a criticism on religious grounds (saying he is fake if he gets his information from demons), which helps balance the article, since I added back in the thing you deleted, but expanding it to make it Encyclopedic. Read both my edits before you make a decision, ok? Thanks.96.59.177.219 (talk) 05:46, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
- The problem is not that your edit was too short. A Wiki article is not the place to have an ongoing argument. Reliably cited facts are stated in a Wiki article and then, when appropriate, challenged... either in a criticism section as here, or after each point. There is no Rebuttal section needed. Should there then be a Rebuttal to the rebuttals section? And so on? If there are more (reliably sourced) facts on the positive side, add them to the sections above Criticisms. Also, please open an official Wiki account. RobP (talk) 13:23, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
B&B AfD
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I hope you see how you screwed yourself at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Pink House (Melbourne Beach, Florida). I think you overestimated the degree to which editors would respond to your call that BnBs were involved in writing articles about these houses in order to help business. You kept adding new entries after the AfD started under that same rationale and the aggregate refused, preferring to keep NRHP sites. I made the case in my comment that GEOFEAT requires more than listing but you didn't make that case and you confused the issue. Sometimes you're going to do a good job of providing rationale and the aggregate will just vote per WP:ILIKEIT, which they do pretty often. Sometimes, however, you present a less-than-stellar case and you get your ass handed to you. I wanted to see deletions but that didn't happen and your AfD stats remain a pathetic 0% with consensus. Anyway, please learn this lesson and perhaps next time you'll be more successful. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:20, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
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Robert Burnham Jr. Photo?
Hello, Rp2006. You have new messages at Talk:Robert_Burnham_Jr.#Photo?.Message added 20:07, 14 December 2017 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
- Made reply on article's Talk page. RobP (talk) 02:42, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
- On 12/14/17 Tony Ortega sent me a photo he is owner of and I had him email Commons their license verification form. Just now I uploaded the photo to Commons and added it to the info-box.RobP (talk) 20:30, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
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Re: ATT Network block of IP 107.77.224.0/22
Hi Rob, I blocked that range because of how quickly IP addresses change within it, making it very easy for vandalism to slip by unnoticed or improperly reverted. See this page history (from my edit onwards) for an example of this). A lot of edits from that range are also vandalism. I think the vandalism risk is outweighed by the collateral damage in this case. As you said, users affected by that block can still log in to edit; it's also possible for them to create an account if need be. Graham87 14:09, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
David paulides page
I am not trying to start trouble, but I have some concern with the page on David Paulides. I don't think that it is a fair representation of him or his work. I totally understand and support skepticism, but I think in this case, it is a bit bias. Specifically, I'm referring to his missing 411 books. Reading through the information there, it seems as if it is intended to discredit him, instead of provide information about his work. I have personally read all of the missing 411 series and the information he presents is all fact based. The skeptics quoted were inaccurate in their portrayal, and they obviously had predetermined conclusions on the validity that influenced their reviews. He never once purported to know a cause or causes of the disappearances discussed, furthermore, he goes to great lengths to explain that he only listed and wrote about cases that fit a certain criteria of unexplainable circumstances. Which is contrary to what was said by one or more of the skeptics quoted. I won't take up any more of your time bringing up examples of how they are being misleading, but I would appreciate it if you could look into this a little further and maybe correct some of these things.
Again, I'm not trying to be one of those egotistical guys, that thinks they know better, or gets off of on finding and pointing out perceived mistakes. I'm just pointing it out because I think it's a misrepresentation of his work. I also believe that people need to be made aware of the things he discusses so that they can be more careful when visiting the outdoors. I know his intentions are to educate people, not to frighten them. Thank you, regardless of what you end up doing with this information, I appreciate you taking the time to read this and hear my thoughts. -Dustin Dustin sharber (talk) 09:39, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Dustin sharber: I am copying this to the Talk page for the article in question as that is a more appropriate place to discuss the topic. 14:34, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
David Wolfe
Hi Rp2006! With David Wolfe, Forbes.com contributors are regarded as self-published sources, as they are more akin to bloggers with almost no editorial oversight. Thus, per WP:BLPSPS, we can't use articles by Forbes contributors to source material about living people. It tends to catch editors out, as the Forbes name would suggest that it is reliable, but the contributors are different and separate to their staff. - Bilby (talk) 04:27, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Please link to a WP article verifying your claim. RobP (talk) 04:30, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- WP:RSP lists Frobes.com as "Editors show consensus for treating Forbes.com contributor articles as opinion pieces or self-published sources" - there have been numerous discussions about this on WP:BLPN and WP:RSN. As there is minimal to no oversight of Forbes.com contributor posts, and as they post directly, it is seen as self published, and cannot be used as sources of material about a living person other than the author. - Bilby (talk) 04:38, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- I have also brought this issue up on the David Wolfe talk page here. Tornado chaser (talk) 04:59, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- WP:RSP lists Frobes.com as "Editors show consensus for treating Forbes.com contributor articles as opinion pieces or self-published sources" - there have been numerous discussions about this on WP:BLPN and WP:RSN. As there is minimal to no oversight of Forbes.com contributor posts, and as they post directly, it is seen as self published, and cannot be used as sources of material about a living person other than the author. - Bilby (talk) 04:38, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
AN3
I criticized you at AN3, you are not the subject of the report, but I still think you should know. Tornado chaser (talk) 02:18, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Tornado chaser: I have to say that the discussion in the link you provided is not easy to follow, and I see no reference to me at all. What was I accused of doing? RobP (talk) 02:51, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- One of the diffs I linked in my last comment was you making an unexplained revert. Tornado chaser (talk) 02:56, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
Apologies for the accidental rollback
Apologies for the accidental rollback rather than a regular revert, but please see my explanation for the latter here. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:13, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Cordless Larry: Yea. I screwed it up as coincidentally the ranking was the same number as the reported age. Was notified by the owner that cat is alive, but I realize this isn't a sufficient RS. Trying to get a good ref.RobP (talk) 21:35, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, in that case, I was confused too. I thought you had actually changed the reported age, but now that I look again, I see what happened! Cordless Larry (talk) 21:55, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Kenny Biddle (Round 2)
I'm not convinced addition of the NYT article by itself is enough of a difference to change people's minds. Looking over the old AfD, I see a few felt the article was self-promotional. I have noticed an interesting phenomenon with both good and bad articles at AfD: if it reads like an admiring writer milked every source for trivial details, people will vote against it on the basis that the editor is probably trying to promote someone or something, even though it is adequately sourced. If you would consent to let me take a hatchet to your draft article, I might be able to trim and copyedit enough to mitigate the impression of promotion. You could always revert to your old version if you disagree with my edits. - LuckyLouie (talk) 14:36, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Go for it! RobP (talk) 15:04, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- OK, I took it as far as I can go today. Although I may fix typos and tweak a little later tonight. Understatement is the key to successful encyclopedic bio writing. Unless your subject is someone who has 10 books written about them, better to go with unadorned facts. Note that I cut out all the personal trivia; things like the first time he met Randi, or the first time he went to a psychic, or his favorite color (kidding). Also, I only gave a cursory look to the references, so I can't guarantee they're bulletproof. You should cite the highest quality sources you have, and be very stingy with selfpub and fringe sources, avoiding them if you can. And I haven't closely examined the bibliography. You may want to remove stuff published on GhostTheory etc. and keep only solid mainstream publishing.- LuckyLouie (talk) 19:58, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks so much. Will take a deeper look tonight, but at a quick look-over I see you deleted the section I started for the NYT material and citation which I thought was critical to trying again at this time. Why?? RobP (talk) 20:17, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- I didn't see any cite to the NYT article, just the CSI article. But I will create and add the cite and see if any details from Kenny's paras are worth extracting for other sections.(BTW, showcasing the name of the publication in the article text, e.g. "...which was covered by The New York Times in February 2019. According to Jack Hitt..." comes off to reviewers as desperate to prove notability, 'Look! He was mentioned in the New York Times! By a writer! ) From my reading of the NYT story, the story is about Susan and her sting ops. Kenny and wife appear as details, so it's not the critical difference that's going to put you over the top in terms of changing reviewers minds about notability. The bigger problem was too much fancruft, which made the article appear fawning rather than encyclopedic. - LuckyLouie (talk) 21:22, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- OK, added details from the NYT magazine story that were relevant. I think that's about all we can realistically squeeze from it. Yes, it's cute that he wears a Thor's Hammer charm. But please don't include that unless you want the article to be compared to something found in Tiger Beat ; ) - LuckyLouie (talk) 21:50, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- Oh you are funny... I had just pasted in all the text from the NYT article about Kenny as a temp thing to have it all there to figure out what to use! Def not the hammer.
- Update: read it over in detail and had to change just a few things, mostly concerning the description of Biddle's role in the sting. Thanks so much. You did an amazing job! Now the problem of getting it republished. I started to do that and ran into a wall. It seems because of the AfD there is a problematic process to make it live, that needs to involve the admin who closed the AfD. Trouble is he is retired! Amazingly, the process does NOT cover this scenario, so I asked what to do at the Teahouse. RobP (talk) 02:09, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
- Good move. Hope it will be reconsidered. BTW, I never read the *entire* DRV discussion until just now. Weird. And a lot of michegas about possible WP:SPA votes. Maybe that’s why recreation is protected ]. - LuckyLouie (talk) 02:30, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
- It definitely seemed unfair. I was so upset at how that went down. Especially because I could never get the actual points of my arguments about notability (which were seconded by some others) answered by the Delete voters. RobP (talk) 03:27, 27 February 2019 (UTC) Well I have resubmitted it - hopefully correctly. The procedure description is anything but clear. RobP (talk) 03:27, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
- Good move. Hope it will be reconsidered. BTW, I never read the *entire* DRV discussion until just now. Weird. And a lot of michegas about possible WP:SPA votes. Maybe that’s why recreation is protected ]. - LuckyLouie (talk) 02:30, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks so much. Will take a deeper look tonight, but at a quick look-over I see you deleted the section I started for the NYT material and citation which I thought was critical to trying again at this time. Why?? RobP (talk) 20:17, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- OK, I took it as far as I can go today. Although I may fix typos and tweak a little later tonight. Understatement is the key to successful encyclopedic bio writing. Unless your subject is someone who has 10 books written about them, better to go with unadorned facts. Note that I cut out all the personal trivia; things like the first time he met Randi, or the first time he went to a psychic, or his favorite color (kidding). Also, I only gave a cursory look to the references, so I can't guarantee they're bulletproof. You should cite the highest quality sources you have, and be very stingy with selfpub and fringe sources, avoiding them if you can. And I haven't closely examined the bibliography. You may want to remove stuff published on GhostTheory etc. and keep only solid mainstream publishing.- LuckyLouie (talk) 19:58, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
John Edward
Just wanted to explain more about this revert. Totally agree with your wording, in substance, but the placement there is problematic, in that the editing out of misses wasn't a part of the portrayal of the show, nor does it belong as part of the official premise of the show, nor is it supported by the citation there, which is just to the show itself. It's true that the episodes did contain all kinds of supportive testimonies from audience members interspersed between segments. That said, I do see the editing criticism down in the skepticism section; if you have even more material, it'd be great to add it down there with the source(s). Grandpallama (talk) 20:35, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
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Explain
Could you explain what you meant here? It does not seem like a truthful request to me. Alexbrn (talk) 20:50, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yes. I was attempting - as I said in my original edit today - to put the article back to its state of Feb 17th, so that (as I said) it could be incrementally improved again with consensus. After Feb 17th, Littleghostboo made edits that to me looked like Littleghostboo was removing valid skeptical content (Science-Based Medicine, etc). But it was hard to see between Littleghostboo and your edits what was going on. It looked to me that you were supporting Littleghostboo in this effort. Though I do not agree with your approach, I see now you were not. RobP (talk) 03:42, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Alexbrn: I was just poking around to attempt to find instructions on how to notify admins that I'd like the the lock lifted, and I can find no instructions on how to do that. Any ideas? RobP (talk) 11:31, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
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hi...can you please tell me why you reverted my edit? You didn't leave any explanation. Thanks.Justbean (talk) 11:57, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Justbean: Hi. It was a long string of changes all done in one big edit, and a quick review showed at least some of it was VERY problematic. I had no time to look at each part individually, so did a global undo. Some of the most problematic issues were that you added material without citations, including the long addition to the end of the Origins section. As well as this tabloid-like material: "...and Schucman was married, but was rumored to have been in love with Thetford, who was believed to have been gay." RobP (talk) 19:00, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks for the change to 'self-proclaimed'. You're right. It's better - and more accurate. However, it clashes with the word 'claimed' which I use just before it. I might alter that, just to make it less....you know. If you get there first, feel free. Hanoi Road (talk) 19:51, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- OK... I changed claimed to a synonym so it will read better. RobP (talk) 20:07, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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Joseph Thomas Ward page
I just wanted to thank you for all the work you've done on the Joseph Ward page. I really appreciated it. Not sure if I'm supposed to message you here, but wasn't sure how else to do it. Should I 'thank' you on each line of the corrections? Or should I only thank you once for everything?
I'm still working on your suggestions for the page... and also waiting to see if I get any other suggestions from the Cabal. jepercival (talk) (talk) 09:24, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- You are certainly welcome. BTW, you could have done that on a talk page. (You can make a Talk page even for a user page in a sandbox.) You notify an editor as follows: @Jane Percival: yada yada... (Look at the code in edit mode.)
- Woah. somebody mentioned the Cabal. There Is No Cabal. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 15:24, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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If you are reverting someone to put your edit back on an article a second time, I would generally recommend checking the article's talk page to see their comments there before performing the revert, as opposed to after (as you have done on Craig Hamilton-Parker). jp×g 03:35, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
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sorry about the typos--I'll redo it when I've got some sleep -- but Thanks for notifying me. I need people to notice when I make errors. DGG ( talk ) 06:58, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
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I'm not doubting you but could you add a note of explanation on the talk page? Madelyne Tolentino didn't claim to see the creature until August. The first reports were in March. Again, not arguing just asking for clarification Wickedjacob (talk) 06:18, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- retracted I understand my confusion now. reports of mutilation vs. report of seeing the creature. Wickedjacob (talk) 06:29, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
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Would you mind if I made some edits to the article that I recommended at the AfD? Not sure when I'll get to it, but thought I'd ask. - LuckyLouie (talk) 21:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- @LuckyLouie: Of course not. Thanks for asking! RobP (talk) 21:03, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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Hello! You reverted my edit to the Landsat 6 page, writing: Citations cannot be to other WP pages… but I had not added citations to Misplaced Pages pages.
There were two citation needed labels, one on The Enhanced Thematic Mapper was designed and manufactured by Santa Barbara Research Center., and the other on Landsat 6 was launched aboard a Titan II launch vehicle from Vandenberg Air Force Base on October 5, 1993.. Both of these facts are documented on the official Landsat website, which was already linked to but using an archived link instead of the current version of the page – which still documents these facts. Isn't that what we want here? You put back an old version of the page, on a non-WaybackMachine archive site, removed the two citations I had taken care of documenting, and commented "Citations cannot be to other WP pages" when nothing of the sort had been done here.
We are unfortunately back to an article with to requested citations when a live and current page for the Landsat 6 program documents these facts.
I don't understand this revert, and the seemingly off-topic note about citing WP pages. Please explain how this was wrong and how this was citing "other WP pages". Nffwp (talk) 21:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
Off-wiki communications
Did you contact Gronk Oz and ask them to restore your talk page trolling? It seems your accounts interact so often that it looks like there's off-wiki coordination going on ]. Geogene (talk) 22:59, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- I and @Gronk Oz: are members of a team of editors, well known on WP, that monitor and improve pages concerning scientific and skeptical subjects. I reconstructed the Havana Syndrome page long ago (before it had this name) when this all started and my team knows that. We generally "watch" the pages worked by the others on the team. And BTW - you are needlessly insulting by calling my valid contributions trolling. I am done with you. RobP (talk) 23:20, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- That wasn't what I asked. I asked, specifically, if you sent out a request for him (or one of your WP:CRONYs generally) to revert that. Geogene (talk) 23:24, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- Nope. I did not. I was about to do it and he did it first. You were totally out of line in deleting that Talk comment. Anyone but you would see that.RobP (talk) 23:32, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- Gronk Oz has never edited that article, but he has participated in the consensus process on that talk page, in support of your positions. , . Do you understand that this is Meat Puppetry? Geogene (talk) 23:39, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- Do you understand that you can watch a page w/o having edited it? I have plenty in my watchlist like that. Report me or shut up. RobP (talk) 00:42, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'm probably going to. One more thing though -- can you confirm that DolyaIskrina, who has been involved on that talk page consensus process as well, is part of your off-wiki POV editing team also? I have enough evidence from editor interaction that that's probably the case. Geogene (talk) 01:20, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- You really are something else. I may have to report you for harassment. But for the record - I do not recognize that ID, @DolyaIskrina:. Is anyone who makes an edit you disagree with now on your enemy list? RobP (talk) 01:42, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'm probably going to. One more thing though -- can you confirm that DolyaIskrina, who has been involved on that talk page consensus process as well, is part of your off-wiki POV editing team also? I have enough evidence from editor interaction that that's probably the case. Geogene (talk) 01:20, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Do you understand that you can watch a page w/o having edited it? I have plenty in my watchlist like that. Report me or shut up. RobP (talk) 00:42, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Gronk Oz has never edited that article, but he has participated in the consensus process on that talk page, in support of your positions. , . Do you understand that this is Meat Puppetry? Geogene (talk) 23:39, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- Nope. I did not. I was about to do it and he did it first. You were totally out of line in deleting that Talk comment. Anyone but you would see that.RobP (talk) 23:32, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- That wasn't what I asked. I asked, specifically, if you sent out a request for him (or one of your WP:CRONYs generally) to revert that. Geogene (talk) 23:24, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
I am a member of WikiProject Skepticism which includes this article. I regularly look through the articles there, looking for places to contribute. In this case, I also had this article on my watchlist after the subject was covered in a podcast I follow, the Skeptic's Guide to the Universe. RobP absolutely did not contact me, either on Misplaced Pages or off, to ask me to restore his contributions. That was completely my own initiative, as the appropriate response to your deleting his talk comment. If there are occasions where I have agreed with RobP, that should hardly come as a surprise when we are debating matters of evidence.--Gronk Oz (talk) 03:20, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Who are the
team of editors, well known on WP
that RobP said you are a member of? Geogene (talk) 03:29, 2 June 2021 (UTC)- @Geogene: The group is known as "Guerilla Skeptics on Misplaced Pages" and you can read a little about it in the last paragraph of Susan Gerbic#Guerrilla Skeptics
- Before you make too much of that list of articles we both edited, you might wish to take a look at how many of them were in WikiProject Skepticism notifications. Before jumping to some sort of conspiracy theory, first check out the obvious.--Gronk Oz (talk) 03:33, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- You can also see a little more detail at Skeptical movement#Guerrilla Skepticism on Misplaced Pages.--Gronk Oz (talk) 03:36, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Okay. Well, I'm just going to point in passing that Guerilla Skeptics the 1) recruit new editors off-wiki 2) probably coordinate off-wiki 3) represent a specific POV. And let me point that one of the main points of contention I've had with you has been over the amount of Weight that should be given sources written by Robert Bartholomew, who is a Fellow of the Center for Inquiry just like the founder of Guerilla Skeptics is . In fact they were fellowshipped in the same year. And in arguing with you capital-S Skeptics, one thing I've noticed is that you don't seem to just want your POV included in the article, you seem to want your specific sources, and their authors, included prominently in that article. It's bad enough that there have been several times when I've felt like I've been arguing with a cult. I proposed a critical piece from Foreign Policy as an alternative, written by a chemist from Los Alamos, which is objectively a better source (more weight) but, no, it just went back to 'let's include this Skeptic Movement source too!'. Geogene (talk) 03:53, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Geogene: I can see how the number of common articles might look unusual, so I thought I would offer an explanation of what is going on. Apart from the common notifications from the WikiProject, some of these also come from the situation where an editor in the group asks for a draft article to be reviewed. For instance, I recognized a couple there so I looked into the specific changes. Alastair MacLennan (obstetrician) and Alan Duffy (astronomer) are both articles I wrote. I constructed them in User Draft space and once I thought they were ready I asked for reviews. RobP was kind enough to chip in with two minor changes to each article. So it was simply a matter of a little collaboration in building the articles. I have not looked into how many of these articles fall into this pattern, but I suspect it is a lot of them.--Gronk Oz (talk) 15:06, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Okay. Well, I'm just going to point in passing that Guerilla Skeptics the 1) recruit new editors off-wiki 2) probably coordinate off-wiki 3) represent a specific POV. And let me point that one of the main points of contention I've had with you has been over the amount of Weight that should be given sources written by Robert Bartholomew, who is a Fellow of the Center for Inquiry just like the founder of Guerilla Skeptics is . In fact they were fellowshipped in the same year. And in arguing with you capital-S Skeptics, one thing I've noticed is that you don't seem to just want your POV included in the article, you seem to want your specific sources, and their authors, included prominently in that article. It's bad enough that there have been several times when I've felt like I've been arguing with a cult. I proposed a critical piece from Foreign Policy as an alternative, written by a chemist from Los Alamos, which is objectively a better source (more weight) but, no, it just went back to 'let's include this Skeptic Movement source too!'. Geogene (talk) 03:53, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
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November 2021
Hello, I'm ScottishFinnishRadish. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person on Thomas John Flanagan, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now. Misplaced Pages has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. The source makes no mention of pleading to a felony, or being convicted of a felony. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:59, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- I used the source from the article main text about the fellony... I will double check if it is in error. RobP (talk) 21:02, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- You are in error. Good job. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:03, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- We all make mistakes. Except for you I guess - except when you misrepresented why you made that edit, making no mention of the citation being insufficient (which would have made sense), but just that old news doesn't belong in the lead (wrong) ("undue for lead. Single issue over a decade ago."). RobP (talk) 21:29, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- Look at the page history, where I removed it from the article body. I made it clear I was removing the felony information based on BLP grounds. I make plenty of mistakes, and try to apologize for them. It happens. I still disagree that a 10 year old conviction with almost no coverage is due for the lead, but that's a separate issue entirely. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:26, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- We all make mistakes. Except for you I guess - except when you misrepresented why you made that edit, making no mention of the citation being insufficient (which would have made sense), but just that old news doesn't belong in the lead (wrong) ("undue for lead. Single issue over a decade ago."). RobP (talk) 21:29, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- You are in error. Good job. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:03, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
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It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Skepticism. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Misplaced Pages's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 23:09, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Canvasing? The page of concern is part of a WikiProject on which I posted a notice about the dispute in the open , even asking if I was wrong. "If interested, take a look at the edit history and Talk to see what this is about. Am I wrong?" I posted no where else. Claiming that I was "leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages" is an outright lie bordering on libel. Stop harassing me and making false claims or I am going to be the one reporting you. Rp2006 (talk) 23:50, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Dont misgender me
My pronouns are she/her. Please amend your recent ani comment. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 22:20, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- WTF... Whatever your pronouns, you are a piece of work. Referring to an editor (or anyone) as "they" when gender in not known (as it was not in this case) is the correct thing to do, and grammatically correct as well. Go away. Far away. Rp2006 (talk) 22:51, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- You use he in one of your ani comments (
I agree that some of what @User:A. C. Santacruz wrote - now on various pages defending his actions -
). Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 22:58, 16 December 2021 (UTC)- That was a typing mistake clearly (fixed now) as every other time I wrote concerning you it was "they" or "their." With all the trouble and drama you seem to always cause, THIS is what you decide to get upset about? Rp2006 (talk) 23:03, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing the mistake. Much appreciated. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 23:11, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- That was a typing mistake clearly (fixed now) as every other time I wrote concerning you it was "they" or "their." With all the trouble and drama you seem to always cause, THIS is what you decide to get upset about? Rp2006 (talk) 23:03, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- You use he in one of your ani comments (
COI concern
Please take a look at Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Agustín Ostachuk as an example of a Conflict of Interest/Noticeboard thread about WP:SELFCITE. I am not going to mention the article or the edits, but I have reason to believe that you have made edits in which you have reinstated a citation to your own work that another editor removed, without disclosing the WP:COI as required. I ask you to review your edits and make the proper disclosures. Levivich 00:15, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- It is not something I do. Period. Rp2006 (talk) 00:17, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Do you mean you did not reinstate a citation to your own work that another editor removed? Would you mind if I posted the diff here? Levivich 00:18, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- What I meant is that I do not add what I write to pages, and specifically that article to that page, and even IF I was the author, I do not agree that reverting massive edits to a page including the referenced work is included in the SELFCITE or COI intention. That would be crazy. Everything in both places refers to the initial addition of material. Rp2006 (talk) 00:27, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- If you do not add what you write to pages, then you can confirm that you have no WP:COI relationship with the content of this edit: Special:Diff/1060661818 (i.e., no relationship with the publisher, the author, the subject, etc.)? Because if you can confirm that, then I'll apologize for the intrusion and be on my way. Levivich 00:29, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- I've never heard of something so stupid @levivich here on Misplaced Pages and I spend a lot of time on pseudoscience pages. Reverting a change is just a revert. It goes back to the last change that (hopefully) the consensus of editors had agreed on. It does not mean that the editor reverting has spent any time going though the edits. Sgerbic (talk) 00:39, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Why would you revert if you haven't reviewed the edit? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:41, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Oh come on SFR you know what I'm talking about. Are you trying to be combative? Sgerbic (talk) 00:43, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- I ALREADY said... because I had no time to go point by point, but a quick read of her edits showed massive changes that ignored the recent argument outcome disputing her contention that anything from CSI is a COI on skeptic pages. And several others took it that way as well. Rp2006 (talk) 00:45, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Why would you revert if you haven't reviewed the edit? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:41, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- This was a revert of content which was added by another editor years before (as shown in the edit link in ANI). As I said, even IF that was my work, I would not see the SELFPUB thing as applicable to teh situation - a revert of long-standing content deleted without sufficient rational. This seems like harassment now. You are seeming like a prosecutor in a trial now. I am uncomfortable with this being a side-bar. Continue this part of the discussion (if you wish) in the existing ANI thread. Rp2006 (talk) 00:42, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- ANI isn't the venue to answer this question about whether you need to disclose a COI for a revert, COIN is, so now at Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#User:Rp2006. Levivich 00:49, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- I've never heard of something so stupid @levivich here on Misplaced Pages and I spend a lot of time on pseudoscience pages. Reverting a change is just a revert. It goes back to the last change that (hopefully) the consensus of editors had agreed on. It does not mean that the editor reverting has spent any time going though the edits. Sgerbic (talk) 00:39, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- If you do not add what you write to pages, then you can confirm that you have no WP:COI relationship with the content of this edit: Special:Diff/1060661818 (i.e., no relationship with the publisher, the author, the subject, etc.)? Because if you can confirm that, then I'll apologize for the intrusion and be on my way. Levivich 00:29, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- What I meant is that I do not add what I write to pages, and specifically that article to that page, and even IF I was the author, I do not agree that reverting massive edits to a page including the referenced work is included in the SELFCITE or COI intention. That would be crazy. Everything in both places refers to the initial addition of material. Rp2006 (talk) 00:27, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Do you mean you did not reinstate a citation to your own work that another editor removed? Would you mind if I posted the diff here? Levivich 00:18, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
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Sgerbic stop associating me with someone i am not associated with. That is starting to become harassment. And on the training point, I'm sorry but as far as I know I've never been at risk of being outed or anyone here knowing about my personal life. Meanwhile it seems like if disclosing the COIs you all have would mean outing yourselves, then maybe y'all weren't very familiar with internet privacy and security best practices when y'all started your accounts. You even link the city you live in in your user page, your occupation, etc. Its an internet privacy blunder. So yes, I would recommend you improve how you train others in privacy matters as the way you are currently doing so is obviously insufficient for your organization's needs. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 01:35, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
@Sgerbic: I'm too lazy to properly thread this reply, but no, nobody needs new usernames. They don't have to disclose their identities if they don't engage in COI editing. Self-reversion, for example, may eliminate COI concerns by eliminating the COI edit(s). Levivich 02:07, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Collapsed as not appropriate per WP:USERTALK; please take it to another venue. Mathglot (talk) 10:47, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
On Hill
Are you friends with Sharon A. Hill or do you have a relationship (personal friendship or otherwise) with her? Additionally, have you discussed Misplaced Pages edits with each other? Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 12:51, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
- I have no idea what this is about but Rp2006 should ignore any attempts to probe private information. Delete this if you like, including my comment, but please don't reply as that encourages more. No one has been appointed Sheriff of Misplaced Pages although some might harbor that ambition. Johnuniq (talk) 23:51, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
- Johnuniq, you may want to rethink your advice. The time to disclose any COI editing is pretty much now. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:59, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
- OK, I've rethought, and still recommend that this type of question be ignored. Answering the first of a series of probing questions is not the norm at Misplaced Pages. A question such as "do you have a COI with respect to Hill in any of the terms outlined at WP:COI?" would be fine. Advice such as "please restrict yourself to commenting at Talk:Sharon A. Hill and do not edit the article per WP:COI" would also be fine, although non-binding if it's just someone's opinion. What is silly is that Rp2006's last edit at that article was to join with two other editors in reverting edits by A. C. Santacruz. That was on 16 December 2021. Since then, there have been two edits and both were unrelated to the text in question. I haven't thought about the text but if it is still there more than two weeks later it can't be all that bad. Unfortunately the talk page has been taken over with a bunch of unnecessary proposals that are far too lengthy for consideration by anyone not invested in the topic. I don't see any discussion of the merits of Rp2006's edit or whether it should be retained although it might be there. Johnuniq (talk) 02:21, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Johnuniq, you may want to rethink your advice. The time to disclose any COI editing is pretty much now. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:59, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
- Johnuniq I don't ask these questions unless I have evidence to believe what I'm asking. I'm being friendly and giving Rp an opportunity to disclose his association willingly before taking another route. I have asked my questions in such a way because Rp and me seriously disagree on both the spirit and letter of the COI guideline. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 09:32, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- It is not appropriate to interrogate people about details of their off-wiki life. It is sufficient to ask if they have a WP:COI, and let them do the reckoning. This looks, again, like Witchfinder General behaviour. 09:44, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Johnuniq I don't ask these questions unless I have evidence to believe what I'm asking. I'm being friendly and giving Rp an opportunity to disclose his association willingly before taking another route. I have asked my questions in such a way because Rp and me seriously disagree on both the spirit and letter of the COI guideline. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 09:32, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
I'll grant I could've worded the first question better, but the second question is perfectly neutral and impersonal.Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 09:57, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- I don't understand your problem. If you can't understand that your question in not appropriate, let me say plainly that you will be blocked if you make a habit of asking personal questions, particularly when it involves opponents. Such interrogation is creepy. Not even Arbcom would ask these questions on wiki. They might email some questions and post something on a user's talk saying that an email had been sent and the user should respond without delay. You don't have to believe me. Ask at WP:Teahouse for independent and honest opinions. There is no planet on which these questions would be regarded as "friendly". Johnuniq (talk) 10:05, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- The issue is you shouldn't be editing your friend's BLP articles. I didn't mean the questions themselves were friendly, but the letting him answer for himself before I have to contact paid-en-wp is, in my opinion. Note I have no way to ask Rp off-wiki as he has no listed email. Of course, if the consensus is I shouldn't have asked the questions I'm glad to ask oversight to delete all relevant edits and move on. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 10:39, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Witchfinder General Santacruz: I have no actual reason to answer you, and in fact, I take your actions as Harassment per WP:HOUNDING. But the answer is no. Hill and I are not friends and have no "relationship" at all, and to be clear - have never discussed Misplaced Pages. That is the last time I answer your obsessive accusations. Stay off my talk page. Rp2006 (talk) 17:06, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Rp2006: I understand your frustration with the inappropriate pestering but you must not poke other contributors with stuff like "Witchfinder General". Misplaced Pages's inner workings are hard to grasp, for example, we see above a bad approach to investigating COI issues. However, that does not earn the accused the right to raise the temperature. If you are too used to poking people on internet forums, think of your comments here in tactical terms—you do have a COI (we're not dumb) and poking your accusers is only going to make people in the middle take their side. Rejoinders don't help in any way. Re the COI, they come in a large variety of flavors and my humble opinion is that yours is a very mild case. I am particularly irritated by the fact that in a noticeboard discussion from some weeks ago there were no useful responses to my questions asking for examples of bad edits by GSoW people. In the end, what matters is article content—we're not here to earn moral purity points for a better position in the afterlife. I have to warn you that in a situation like this some contributors go crazy and self-destruct to show their distaste. Rational people should not do that. Take a break if needed, but if you continue you will have to engage reasonably with the COI accusers and be squeaky clean. Do not encourage them with frequent commentary, just set out your position and occasionally respond to questions. Johnuniq (talk) 00:22, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- I am trying to stay out of this ridiculousness, but SC coming to my own page like she is a prosecutor in a legal setting and asking for personal info thinking she had me on something (a relationship with Hill) was beyond the pale. Rp2006 (talk) 03:36, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Rp2006: I understand your frustration with the inappropriate pestering but you must not poke other contributors with stuff like "Witchfinder General". Misplaced Pages's inner workings are hard to grasp, for example, we see above a bad approach to investigating COI issues. However, that does not earn the accused the right to raise the temperature. If you are too used to poking people on internet forums, think of your comments here in tactical terms—you do have a COI (we're not dumb) and poking your accusers is only going to make people in the middle take their side. Rejoinders don't help in any way. Re the COI, they come in a large variety of flavors and my humble opinion is that yours is a very mild case. I am particularly irritated by the fact that in a noticeboard discussion from some weeks ago there were no useful responses to my questions asking for examples of bad edits by GSoW people. In the end, what matters is article content—we're not here to earn moral purity points for a better position in the afterlife. I have to warn you that in a situation like this some contributors go crazy and self-destruct to show their distaste. Rational people should not do that. Take a break if needed, but if you continue you will have to engage reasonably with the COI accusers and be squeaky clean. Do not encourage them with frequent commentary, just set out your position and occasionally respond to questions. Johnuniq (talk) 00:22, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Witchfinder General Santacruz: I have no actual reason to answer you, and in fact, I take your actions as Harassment per WP:HOUNDING. But the answer is no. Hill and I are not friends and have no "relationship" at all, and to be clear - have never discussed Misplaced Pages. That is the last time I answer your obsessive accusations. Stay off my talk page. Rp2006 (talk) 17:06, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- The issue is you shouldn't be editing your friend's BLP articles. I didn't mean the questions themselves were friendly, but the letting him answer for himself before I have to contact paid-en-wp is, in my opinion. Note I have no way to ask Rp off-wiki as he has no listed email. Of course, if the consensus is I shouldn't have asked the questions I'm glad to ask oversight to delete all relevant edits and move on. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 10:39, 3 January 2022 (UTC)