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Blocking admin Review
I have returned to the project after a long break and was conscious that one of the things I left undone was a review of my block here and indications of where I saw the path forward. I have reviewed what happened at the time of blocking, events since and the comments since the block. What was intended to be a quick look at Commons turned into a rabbithole of getting sucked into reading the commons vp and com:anu over the ridiculous dispute with a current arb here. I was struck that the key concern expressed here against unblocking - namely the diffusion of drama and tendency to personalise and escalate disagreements by throwing petrol everywhere was playing out in commons in front of my eyes. Clearly nothing has changed about fae’s approach and, I fear, it is unreasonable to expect it to change in future.
Having thought about it long and hard, I have concluded that there is no path forward for fae here that will not eventually lead to unnecessary drama, unnecessary drama unnecessarily escalated and massive disruption to this project as a consequence. I therefore now fully oppose an unblock under any circumstances. The only path left is for either an appeal to the community or to arbcom
Is this unfair on fae? Probably yes, but sometimes we just have to look at the overall good of the project and in my opinion and of many of those commenting, the good of the project does not have fae editing here because of the eventual expectation of unnecessary drama and disruption. Spartaz 14:21, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Just to note, that since the dissolution of BASC, since this is not based on private data, I do not believe Appeal to Arbcom is a route available to Fae. Worm(talk) 15:04, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Struck per you comments. Spartaz 16:06, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk; please {{ping}} me in replies)
15:36, 1 September 2021 (UTC)20:44, 1 September 2021 (UTC)- I defy anyone to read the discussion at commons and find a consensus that this is how the discussion characterised the dispute. Spartaz 16:00, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- I suppose my brand of stupid (irreverence if you squint) didn't flow that well in that discussion... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Kind of weird Fæ thought I was a
burner sock account
, seeing as we've had like a million interactions here at en over the years (none too noteworthy, but still). Still, a stressful moment for them to be sure, so I understand and did not take it as a slight. El_C 18:39, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- I suppose my brand of stupid (irreverence if you squint) didn't flow that well in that discussion... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Kind of weird Fæ thought I was a
- I defy anyone to read the discussion at commons and find a consensus that this is how the discussion characterised the dispute. Spartaz 16:00, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- I'll just preface this by saying that regardless of the avenue of appeal, I am obviously just another user with an opinion in this case and am not speaking as an arbitrator. Regarding the recent dramafest at Commons: While opinions differed over there as to the appropriateness of my remarks, nobody with any sense agreed with Fae's completely specious accusations that I was somehow involved in doxxing them and actively encouraging others to do them physical harm. They reproduced every remark I made in that thread as "evidence" that I was doing this, so it's all there to see. Please do let me know if you can actually find what they say I was doing. Fae's main supporters there were a person banned by arbcom many years ago, whose socks I have helped to block here, and a globally banned troll who runs an attack site that has like 15 threads about how horrible I am. So, a lot of axe-grinding was going there in between the more thoughtful comments from other users. I don't like Fae, one specific person with a toxic personality, who happens to be queer. I would feel the same if they were straighter than a ruler. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:00, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Read an old 2019 BLP thread on terfs and wp:label, and you made a very nice and appreciated point about not discouraging trans editors from participating in trans topics. Have a cat!
Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 20:19, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Guy Macon's voluntary iban removed
Hi. Just letting you know that Guy Macon's voluntary interaction ban with you has been lifted, per a clear consensus at WP:AN. The full discussion is here. Happy to discuss further if required. -- Euryalus (talk) 10:12, 5 January 2022 (UTC)