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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. (Radiant) 10:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

User:Tobias Conradi/2006 summer admin incidents

Basically the same page as the page already deleted at this mfd. Content and intent are the same. If the user wishes to file an rfc he should do so, but keeping abuse lists sitting around without using them is not acceptable behaviour. pschemp | talk 18:58, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as a history of personal attacks. (But note that creator is currently blocked for a week (for similar attacks), so nothing should be inferred from his not intervening to defend the page here.) Newyorkbrad 19:58, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete as basically recreation of deleted material. Badbilltucker 20:11, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - looks like a sandbox for an RfC, so I'll assume that's what it is. Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:56, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes ... except that the last incident recorded took place on July 14, and the page was created on August 21 and never edited again. In any event, all the content should be available from the history of the user's talkpage. Newyorkbrad 22:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Angus, if you look through this user's history, he has repeatedly stated he will never file an rfc. I honestly don't feel like wading through the crap to find it, but he was repeatedly asked to either file or get rid of the pages and has done neither. A comment from Chairboy from the last go around, "As one of the admins listed, I've repeatedly asked Tobias to file a formal RfC to address his grievances with me, but he has demurred." pschemp | talk 22:09, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I already looked at Conradi's history a couple of times. Even if he doesn't file an RfC, it'll help him out at arbitration some day. As for Brad's comment, I don't see that everything is recoverable from the creator's fascinating user and user talk pages. Adding this to his user page, removing it and providing him with the diff would make it invisible to passers-by but accessible by him if he ever wanted to use it. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:24, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Change to no opinion per Lar's comment below. Angus McLellan (Talk) 08:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

• If he ever files an RfC or goes before arbcom, I'll gladly restore the content for him to use (unless someone else does first), but he doesn't get to have private attack pages. Delete ... in fact, speedyable as recreation of previously deleted content. ++Lar: t/c 04:41, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and previous MfD. If he wants to save this stuff for a possible RfC or something to that extent, then he can save a copy on his hard drive. -- Ned Scott 22:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep If Tobias's grievance never rises to an RfC, what harm is done? This is the optimal solution; he has identified what he doesn't like, and done the considerable work of compiling it, and there is no issue. If he does file one, of course he should have access to this. Septentrionalis 00:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
  • See my previous comment about saving this as a file on his computer. I would think that is a reasonable option. -- Ned Scott 01:13, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.