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2. My "good standing" criteria include

a) the requirement that if the user is calling for recall is an admin, the admin must themselves have been in this category for at least a week.

b) the requirement that the user should be neutral towards my person. This means that if a user is or has been involved in a DR procedure with me as a party, I doubt that user is neutral and I reserve the right to not count this editor as "an editor in good standing" in this case. Hint: it's easy to find a neutral party, like mediators - if you can convince them you are right...

c) I reserve the right to impose additional criteria in the future.

A misunderstanding

In your list of Poles you have listed two different people called Józef Bielawski. Now you have a link to Józef Bielawski because I have created an article about him. The problem is that I have created an article about Józef Bielawski - the Islamic scholar and not about Józef Bielawski - the violinist, or Józef Bielawski - the writer. I suggest we create a disambiguation page to solve this problem. Kkrystian 15:25 (UTC) 16 January 2007

Is Poland in Central or Eastern Europe?

Hi, seeing as you seem to be the wiki-authority on all things Polish I present to you the above mentioned question pertaining to the main article on Poland. There has been a number of edits in this article with regards to this geographical location. The current version states that Poland is in Central or Eastern Europe. I believe this should be corrected for the following reasons: the articles on Poland's neighbors all state their location as Central, not Western or Eastern; geographically Poland does not lie east of the geographical divisor of the European continent; culturally Catholic Poland has always been far closer to any western state than eastern one. There is no more Eastern Bloc and an article on present day Poland should not be swayed by past assumptions. Poland does not meet either of the two criteria presented in the "Eastern Europe" article and is already in the "Central Europe." I would appreciate your comments on this issue. Many thanks! JRWalko 03:14, 27 January 2007 (UTC)JRWalko

It's in Central Europe. It was in Eastern Europe only in the abstract sense, as part of the Eastern Bloc. Appleseed (Talk) 03:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Sources are not clear on this, and both variants should stay, preferably with a footnote explaining the various points of view.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  04:30, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Poland is in fact one of a number of claimants for the title, "Geographical Center of Europe." By all rights, in this view, the capital of the European Union should one day find its home in the broad suburbs of Warsaw.

The custom of calling Poland a part of "Eastern Europe" was the product of several decades' bipolar division of Europe and the world, and of ignorance. logologist|Talk 06:46, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

mogl bys powrocic do wersji ze geograficznie Polska nalezy do centralnej europy? przez wandalizm znowu jest wschodnie. Pozdrawiam--Maciek 18:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

moglbys tez zniemic odrazu w Poles? Tam tez toczyl sie wandalizm. Teraz Bez zameldowania nie mozna edytowac... Pozdrawiam--Maciek 18:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Wiec wypadaloby sie zameldowac... -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  18:20, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Nic nie dalo ze sie zameldowalem. Poza tym widocznie nic nie da ze to admin zmieni jak tutaj widac. Co zrobic z ludzmi ktorzy nie potrafia dyskutowac... przeciez sa specjalne strony do dyskusji.. no coz.. to bede zameldowany od teraz tutaj ;)--Szkopski 18:45, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Maybe this will help. Dr. Dan 19:55, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Law and Justice, German National People's Party

Witam!

Proszę spojżec na historię tych artykułów. Moim zdaniem User:Deutscher Patriot powinien zostac przynajmniej ostrzeżony przez admina lub zablokowany(jestem za).

Proszę o reakcję. Pozdrawiam. Medard

Block

Can you please block User:209.242.43.98. This user's most recent vandalism was to Culture of Poland. Appleseed (Talk) 18:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Done. 48h. -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  19:07, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

This user was blocked several times, including once for 40 days, and still doesn't get the message. Maybe something longer than two days is required? Appleseed (Talk) 19:11, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Three months from User:Infrogmation. Appleseed (Talk) 21:32, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Expandable toolbox buttons?

I know you like replies on your talk page (the "new messages" comment at the top tells me that). But just putting the reply here always feels a little odd and stops the conversation flow. So I've done the next best thing and added a message to tell you that a reply can be found next to your query on my talk page. If you'd like be to always put the full reply here let me know. --MarkS (talk) 21:22, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I have added a reply to your original question on my talk page. I have now created a version of XEB for testing (ie. I won't keep changing it) which (I believe) covers your request. This Test version is available for you to have a look at if you wish. More details on my talk page. --MarkS (talk) 22:02, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

My monobook

I have spent 3 hours the last time trying to fix my monobook. I won't touch because I am scared of ruing the code and don't know what to do. If you are an authetic administrator, then you have my permission to remove the category from my monobook. Please, make sure not to remove other stuff.--Patchouli 22:55, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Monobook

Ooops!!! I removed the only category reference I could find in there, didn't mean to put my own (rather hacked together) Monobook in the category! Thanks for the heads-up - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 00:42, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Social Darwinism

At 05:15 on 26 January 2007, as your edit summary states, you moved Social Darwinism to Social darwinism: no need to capitalize. This move appears to have been made without first placing move or merge tags on the article, and the talk page has not been moved, causing some confusion. All the references I've checked use the capitalised form, which is consistently used in the article: going through the first 100 in a google search, the uncapitalised varsion is used by one "History 203 lecture list" with a generally eccentric approach to capitals, Evowiki which dispenses with the capital in the title but uses it in the article, and two chat type pages . Doesn't seem to me like much usage, and the page is now inconsistent. Any evidence that we shouldn't move the title back? .. dave souza, talk 10:18, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, your willingness to have it changed back is appreciated. Sorry I missed the earlier discussion, and I must admit to having reverted some vandalism on the page without noticing that the title had changed. Anyway, though it's not obvious, the Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (capital letters)#Religions, deities, philosophies, doctrines and their adherents section concludes that "Philosophies, theories, doctrines, and systems of thought do not begin with a capital letter, unless the name derives from a proper noun:", and so Darwinism as deriving from the proper noun "Darwin" always begins with a capital letter, even when preceded by "social". I've changed back a page move in the past, but don't have much experience of it: is this something you'd prefer to do yourself? Thanks for your helpfulness, .. dave souza, talk 20:57, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Couple of DYK noms

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Your removal of information

Probably you "missed" it, but the word, which you and your close ally user:Lysy, trying to remove is directly referenced by English sources. M.K. 13:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

So, may question - why are you deleting referenced formulation? M.K. 13:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Can you explain how third party English source can be not neutral? And how did you come to this conclusion? And such formulation, which was removed, is not limited with one EN source. BTW, i can't asses you link because it shows only summary. M.K. 10:15, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Notes in small print

I have a question - how to make a list of notes, or references (like at the end of the Poland prehistory article I'm working on) make appear in small print? Also how to have a date and time automatically appended to the signature (like the one below)?

Orczar

Re:My monobook.js

Thanks for the note. I wasn't aware of the category problem (and it looks like I'm not the only one). I believe I fixed it (don't see my page in the category anymore), but if you see any problems, don't hesitiate to tell me. Gavia immer (u|t) 17:24, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

mono

Done. I didn't notice that. Thanks. lijealso 10:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

link

http://nasz-czas.tripod.com/317/czas3.html

Request for Mediation

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Spellings

You're quite right. I can't tell you how unintuitive such names are to me (after being a good speller all my life, I now turn out to be dyslexic in Polish!). I have been making offline changes to the map already, actually (I somehow left out Kaunas altogether), but it will be one of the last things I add, in case some more blunders reveal themselves in the meantime. For the N place, MK suggested Navahrudak; Calgacus suggested Novogrudok. I presume the first is Belarusian and the second Russian. Which of those two do you think would be more appropriate? (I made an innocent mistake in using the Polish version and was suspected of Polish POV! Me, who can't even spell Dobrzyń!) qp10qp 20:05, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Władysław Wejtko, was selected for DYK!

On February 8, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Władysław Wejtko, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 22:42, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:

Honestly, I am not interested in this and to be honest with you, when you hear "Czech legion" or something like this, think about several dozen of people :), not thousands. ;) Cz historiography very like exaggerating such things. - Darwinek 21:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Wow! Wyjątki się zdarzają :). Gdybyś kiedy wybierał się na Zaolzie, to daj wiedzieć, tak na marginesie. - Darwinek 21:37, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Thingummyjig

Either Jagello or Jagiello would be fine, although if you were aiming for a vote, I suspect that Jagiello would get the "use English" votes. I'm not sure any of the other ones fill me with boundless enthusiasm. The two you mention have the advantage that they should both be recognisable to anyone whose national mythology the subject forms part of, without actually using a myth-specific name. Thanks for submitting Salmson 2 and Aeroplanes Voisin for T:DYK. I decided to submit a couple of "articles for creation" ones I'd seen and some other odds and ends. We can't have the DYK bit entirely filled with Central/East European stuff written by you, Irpen, and Halibutt... As for whether Poland is in Central or Eastern Europe, the answer is "Yes, it is". Hope that helps! Cheers, Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:18, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I would accept either, and would be interested to see Shilkanni's evidence that Jagello is better Latin. As Angus predicts, I would prefer Jagiello, because it seems to be more common in English; but I was thinking of proposing Jagello myself, because it's somebody else's first choice. It also has the advantage of giving everybody (but Shilkanni) something to gain from Mediation, which may mean that the next attempt won't be torpedoed. (And if that doesn't work, how about a move to "What-his-name"? ;-> "Thingummyjig" is just so British.) Septentrionalis PMAnderson 03:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Other names would be at best marginally acceptable, and I forget where I drew the line; there was an approval poll one or two WP:RM's back. I am willing to tolerate Jogaila, but I don't like it; I might feel the same about Ladislaus or Wladyslaw. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 03:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Polish First Army

Unit InfoBox added! W. B. Wilson 08:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Jarosław Kaczyński

I have reverted your edit to the talk page of this article, and I must say your edit summary was rather misleading. you said "rm {{LGBTProject|class=start}} per talk and article content (nothing to support it". I see nothing in the talk to indicate consensus was achieved regarding the tagging of this article, only the placement of the subject in the LGBT category, which is an entirely different matter. He clearly falls within the scope of our project due to the irrational, homophobic statements he has made--statements which were removed from the article in the last whitewash, but which I have reinserted. I would ask that sourced statements not be removed from articles, so as not to create a POV article, which is what was happening on this one. Jeffpw 08:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Sci-fi

Niestety, nie przypominam sobie takiego filmu/serialu. Jestem jeszcze stosunkowo młody a takie kawałki były wyświetlane niemal tylko za komuny. Teraz ludzie patrzą na to jako na śmieszne socjalistyczne eksperymenty, więc nie ma ich w telewizji. Przypominam sobie tylko jeden słynny sci-fi film, gdzie bohaterzy przenoszą się w przeszłość, żeby zatrzymać Hitlera. To chyba jedyny taki czeski kawałek wyświetlany w obecnych czasach w TV. - Darwinek 10:17, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Afaik that movie is "Zitra rano vstanu a oparim se cajem" ≈Tulkolahten≈ 22:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Ciao

If I asked you some translation from Polish (don't know when or what, simply I wrote some articles on Polish rulers, from... French. Can't imagine the fatigue!!) wikipedia, can you help me? Bye and good work. --Attilios 10:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

RE: Dziwne pytanie :) (Darwinek's page)

I think it should be a series "Navstevnici" (Visitors), check this site . But they are visitors from the future not from the space. And that paste seems to be "Amarouny" - you put that to the dish to a couple of tablets and it will create some kind of gelatine. ≈Tulkolahten≈ 11:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

You should have it :) See Návštěvníci (TV series) (redirect Navstevnici and other official names). I am a fan of the old TV series. Including polish two - Czterej pancerni i pies and Stawka wieksza niz zycie and the greatest movie ever - Seksmisja :-D ≈Tulkolahten≈ 08:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Cheers

Thanks for your note, Piotrus. I've still a bit to do at Jagiello, chasing up the remaining points raised at FAC. I fear that only medieval, preferably late medieval, topics float my boat when it comes to history, though I did help copy-edit Finnish Civil War. To be honest, I'm so atrociously slow that I'm not looking beyond my interrupted project Anton Chekhov, which I'll move back to after finishing up at Jg.

I must say, your Witold Pilecki is a wonderful article: what a guy! Keep up your good work. qp10qp 01:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, H. Cegielski - Poznań S.A., was selected for DYK!

On February 12, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article H. Cegielski - Poznań S.A., which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 03:04, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Rejs

Greetings, Proconsol. I have a request: please check out a raging debate over at the Rejs talk page regarding the proper reference for the name of the article on Poland's greatest work of cinematography. Oh, and I enjoyed the Witold Pilecki article as well - what a story! Many thanks, Benzamin 17:15, 12 February 2007 UTC

Your DYK nomination for Włodzimierz Steyer was successful

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Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 23:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

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