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Mr Brzezinski's religion?
I remember, in an interview, Brzezinski talking about his Roman Catholicism. I can only find limited info re this online, most of it from unreliable sources. I suggest info may be important enough to merit being added. Daedalus 96 (talk) 21:25, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Explanation
How could his father Tadeusz Brzezinski help Jews escape from the Nazis if he and his the family left Europe in 1938? The war started in 1939. Must be explained.
- According to the source: "While in Leipzig, Germany, before World War II, Brzezinski became involved in efforts to rescue European Jews from Nazi concentration camps.". But yeah this could be clarified. Volunteer Marek 06:51, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
Chronology and semi-overlapping sections in the article
There is a bit of overlapping chronology within the article with different subheadings. The subheader of "Government" under "Biography" is a partial overlap with "National Security Advisor". Meanwhile, "After power" in "Biography" is a partial overlap of "Later years".
However, the subheadings in "Major policies" are good, they should just also be in the "Government" section. Really the whole article is Brzezinski's biography so there doesn't need to be a biography section header. Merging this out would add to the flow of the article. Rauisuchian (talk) 08:09, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
Polish-American vs Polish-born American
On other Misplaced Pages editions such as in French or Russian, he is described as an American of Polish origin. Which I believe is more fitting, while he was born in Poland, he studied in Canada and the US and made his career in the US, and is remembered for that. As far as I know he did not work in Poland, although I could be wrong. --Spafky (talk) 10:37, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
- This is English Misplaced Pages, which should not draw conclusions from other language-Wikipedias, especially Russian under current circumstances. Bit nonsensical really. I believe that the Polish-American identity was based on citizenship rules under Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Biography. Personally, I find 'Polish-born' and 'Polish-American' quite synonymous so I do not mind. Merangs (talk) 13:38, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
Afghan Trap Theory NPOV
The "'Afghan Trap' theory" section reads more like an apologia of Brzezinski than a serious discussion of the motives behind supporting the mujahideen. Poorly formatted, only one citation (specifically a defense of Brzezinski) in over 300 words (I think)? I feel like this was added to deflect criticism rather than sincerely address the matter. Feels like a poor addition and violating NPOV. Brokenwit (talk) 02:15, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Here's an alternative view https://monthlyreview.org/2022/04/01/mr-073-11-2022-04_0/ Not necessarily any more reliable, but at least a basis for a careful comparison of versions. I'd be willing to do some work on this, but it seems like a big job, especially as it's so controversial. I wonder who else would be interested? Jalfro (talk) 09:00, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
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