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Template:Paolo Guerrero series

Only three links. Not enough for navigation. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:04, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Template:Field hockey at the 2010 Asian Games

Unused and both links have been redirected for a while now. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:41, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

keep both links were have been redirected by mistake. it's fixed now. Sports2021 (talk) 23:06, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
They were not redirect by mistake. Those articles did not have a stand alone reason to be separate from the main article. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:13, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
and who says that? there are hundreds of articles like them this, this, just 2 examples but I can show 100 more. They were redirected most probably someone wanted this article to be moved to this one to keep the edit history but probably messed it up. this is interesting I even have to explain this. Sports2021 (talk) 00:18, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
All you did was restore what it was like before it was redirecting. There are no inline sources and a majority of the same information exists in the main articles about Field hockey at the 2010 Asian Games. Outside of the game results that is. I'd say there needs to be a discussion before those articles to be unredirected. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:29, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Template:Trilateral meeting leaders

Not a template for listing the countries and their leaders for an international organization. Rather this just links to the article for China, South Korea, Japan, their PM/Presidents, and the foreign ministers. The main article China–Japan–South Korea trilateral summit is just an annual get together between these countries to advance trade and other forms of political cooperation. Nothing connects the articles together other than just a general grouping. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:13, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Template:ICW Women's Championship

Just three articles linked. Not enough for a template. HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:26, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Keep It only being on 3 articles does not mean it should be deleted. I didn't see anything in the policy saying templates have to be transcluded a certain amount of times. Rlink2 (talk) 16:23, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:NENAN: "A good, but not set-in-stone rule to follow is the "rule of five": are there presently at least five articles (not counting the primary article) on which your navbox will be used?" Italic text

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 23:54, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ 15:26, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Comment Now that this has been relisted twice. This should be the last time this template is of concern at Tfd. The template has not been changed in terms of navigational benefit. NENAN is a rule of thumb that we use. Three links not counting the title for the mainspace article. The one keep vote doesn't address the issue of the nomination. And while my delete vote is based on the merits of the nomination and the template; outside of my vote, the template has no valid reason to be kept. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:19, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Merge into Template:Insane Championship Wrestling. The latter is also not a particularly large template, and this subtopic can be adequately incorporated into the main template. --Bsherr (talk) 17:19, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Template:Panorama 2

This template, sparsely used, contravenes MOS:NOHOVER and is not accessible. It is used to display a file, but the caption for the file is only visible upon a pointer hover over the file. It should be orphaned by replacement with a more appropriate file template, then deleted. Bsherr (talk) 17:12, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Template:Bo Bice

WP:NENAN. 3 was redirected as a non-notable album, and the tour was a multi-artist collab of which he was not the primary focus. This leaves the template to navigate only three articles. Ten Pound Hammer • 19:46, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Template:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine infobox

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template(s) or module(s) below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Per WP:CSK. Nominator proposes to withdraw, in favor of subsequent nomination below, and no other supporters have commented yet. --Bsherr (talk) 21:47, 9 April 2022 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

The result of the discussion was no consensus. Nominator relisted as a deletion instead of merger. - DownTownRich (talk) 21:43, 9 April 2022 (UTC) (non-admin closure) DownTownRich (talk) 21:43, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Propose merging Template:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine infobox with Template:Infobox military conflict.
Having shared infoboxes reduces the creation of multiple infoboxes everytime there is an event, the template already uses features that are available in the Template:Infobox military conflict. The template is extended confirmed protected and so is the article 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine where it si used which already helps protect from disruptive edits and other matters. Another article which is related to the ongoing war, bring War in Donbas utilizes the Template:Infobox military conflict and other ongoing military conflicts. In short the Template:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine infobox shloud be merged into Template:Infobox military conflict. DownTownRich (talk) 20:48, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

There is nothing to merge. Therefore the merge nomination should be withdrawn. If you think it should be deleted, then nominate it as a deletion. GraemeLeggett (talk) 21:29, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
I have placed the deletion tag. This discussion can be closed and further discussion could be made at the new nomination. DownTownRich (talk) 21:37, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

Template:War in Afghanistan (2001–2021) infobox

Template:Infobox military conflict could be used instead of having independent template for each conflict that takes place and it would be easier to migrate now since there are no too much edits happening at the moment. DownTownRich (talk) 21:32, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Strong Keep – The main article is extremely cluttered, and merging the infobox back into the article would make it much more difficult to edit. I don't see a good reason for deleting the template. It would do nothing other than make it significantly more difficult for people to edit the main article. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:13, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Template:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine infobox (2)

Having shared infoboxes reduces the creation of multiple infoboxes everytime there is an event, the template already uses features that are available in the Template:Infobox military conflict. The template is extended confirmed protected and so is the article 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine where it si used which already helps protect from disruptive edits and other matters. Another article which is related to the ongoing war, bring War in Donbas utilizes the Template:Infobox military conflict and other ongoing military conflicts. In short the Template:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine infobox shloud be deleted and Template:Infobox military conflict be used instead. I had previously listed it as merger but deletions is more suitable. I have also nominated Template:War in Afghanistan (2001–2021) infobox as it has similar case as this infobox. DownTownRich (talk) 21:35, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Comment - Using the same template also helps bot users to easily migrate infobox data to Wikidata which is further utilized in other language wikis. Which helps with the expansion of this article into other languages and having updated info crosswiki. - DownTownRich (talk) 21:56, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
WP:SNOW keep – It is barely even possible to edit the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine page due to all the clutter. The reasons put forward for the nomination are the exact same reasons we should close it.
I see this as a perfect example of WP:IAR. All "Delete" arguments presented in this thread revolve solely around technical principles that weren't meant to solve issues such as this. Strong keep. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 22:41, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
I agree, if this is really such a pressing issue then why isn't the focus on condensing the main article to make it happen? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 22:45, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
This situation is exactly what the prohibition on single-use templates was meant for. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:33, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Do you have an argument other than "because the rules say so"? In my humble opinion, ONLY very large articles (lets say 200,000+ or 250,000 bytes) should be using single-use templates until they are brought down below x size. This makes reading the articles easier and is an extra incentive to have editors split down articles so editing is easier. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:14, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
How does splitting the wikitext off to a template "make reading the articles easier"? The HTML for the article contains the full code for the infobox regardless. If you're having trouble editing the lead section of the article, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and tick "Add an link for the lead section of a page", so that you can edit the lead in isolation. Letcord (talk) 01:38, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
Your suggestion does not actually work because infoboxes are part of the lead. Now, to be fair, the situation in this regard has improved somewhat since the lead in the invasion article used to be much more Wikicode (around 40K in the heyday iirc) and the infobox wikicode also used to be a lot larger (around 30K). So using the separate lead edit link might be somewhat okay to work with nowadays; I haven't tried. It was very annoying before the template was created. Phiarc (talk) 14:59, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Strongly Oppose and Close – Per my arguments in the last deletion discussion. The use of this template makes the main article easier to edit. It's pretty difficult to edit as it is right now, and merging the infobox back in would make the lives of our editors much more miserable. I can't think of a single good reason to do this. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:13, 11 April 2022 (UTC)