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Hi Phanly :) (Another Aussie, perchance? From Manly? ;) I hope you like the place and choose to stay.

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Coriolanus effect

I believe you wanted to write about the Coriolis effect, which has nothing to do with Coriolanus. If this is a very common misspelling, you might want to change your article Coriolanus effect into a redirect, otherwise it should probably be deleted (or be turned into an article related to some effect connected to Coriolanus). Kusma 17:36, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Looks like you need another one

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some comments

  • Also - when you create an article - it is well worth looking to see if there is any related/similar article already existing - theasurus thinking - think of synonyms - maybe there is an article with related issues already exsiting
  • The sandbox is a very good place to do things - half filled articles with headings only attract negative attention - better to have half finished articles in sandbox than in jeaopardy on wiki....
  • Talk with someone - isolated article creation and editing can be a trap - find an article about a related subject - find an editor who has done a lot on it - go to their talk - and talk about possible issues... it can help

cheers SatuSuro 23:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


attempt at reply (more specific)

Wikpedia is not very good at specific guidelines - as there are some projects that really should be given with a large handbook and a training course in my honest opinion.

  • (1) Australian subjects, topics and ventures into things australian - should nominally (but not necessarily) be conditionally broached on the Australian Project noticeboard (ok I know nothing is anywhere to tell you that :) )
  • (2) Before putting up a range of articles - you should
    • (a) be rigorous about checking for the existence of other existing articles with close title or subject coverage, specially with synonyms
    • (b) be rigorous about whether adding information to an existing article or editing - it is much better than starting a new article which is only a clutch of headings
  • (3) Religiously conscientiously use the sandbox if you do not have an article that has a category, a reference, and a beginning and an end - half constructed articles cause many checking editors grief
  • (4) Read and re-read very carefully WP:NOT and WP:POV as some editors who have reviewed your work are under the impresssion you have an agenda - you cannot do that on wikipedia - if you feel you dont have one - dosnt matter some feel you have - so thats something to deal with
  • (5) Conservation, Environment and all the possible combinations of the two are an incredible mess on the Australian wiki project - with terminology, scope and variations in articles and categories not systematised, or more importantly

not reviewed by any process (unless someone has started that already - I havent been on my watchlist this am yet) that all australian editors are able to see and discuss - It would be very very wise not to start any more articles as you have until there is a sign that somehwere some part of the australian project is starting to resolve the chaos

  • (6) Another most important issue which is the most invisible but which can be an insurance for the project, yourself as editor, and the integrity of wikipedia - is that if you do create a stub/article - that can stand perusal - it needs to be

listed at the new article list on the australian project page of that name - I would argue that most of your new stubs articles do not meet the standard for that list - because of the issues that I have already made...

So what to do? Go back have a look at what has happened to most of your articles and start attempts and see what has happened to them - learn from it but DO NOT react - more harm comes to those who fight changes on wikipedia - WP:OWN is worth reading on that.

Maybe have a very close look at the australian portal, and the project - and try to get a sense of what its all about - and try to work on existing articles rather than starting up parallel universes - best to leave that sort of thing to the science fiction writers and physicists to deal with that one...

This is given in good faith, and it also expected to be received as such - If there is something you dont like - tell me - be honest - but keep it within bounds of WP:Civility and WP:Wikiquette - cheers SatuSuro 23:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC)