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Another long list of in-universe, unsourced cruft. Either delete it or cut it down and merge. Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 22:48, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy, Television, and Lists. Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 22:48, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I don't see that the nominator has tried to trim, merge, or redirect, all of which are ATDs. As such, there's really nothing to do here that has proven to be un-fixable by regular editing. It's arguable that this should be closed per SK#1, since "List of X characters" where X is a clearly notable fictional franchise obviously has a redirect target. Jclemens (talk) 23:14, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- The reason is simple: I've been down this road before. I've tried to do the ATD's for other franchises with character listicles, only to have my efforts reverted by overzealous inclusionists who can't bear to see a single word of their lovingly detailed summaries altered. AfD has proven to be the only way to get this work done w/ proper community involvement. Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 23:37, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep on the basis of nominator admitting zero effort to resolve perceived difficulties without resorting to deletion. Jclemens (talk) 23:52, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- And when I do make the effort, people scream at me for "acting unilaterally" and "not seeking consensus," so what am I supposed to do exactly? Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 05:17, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep on the basis of nominator admitting zero effort to resolve perceived difficulties without resorting to deletion. Jclemens (talk) 23:52, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- The reason is simple: I've been down this road before. I've tried to do the ATD's for other franchises with character listicles, only to have my efforts reverted by overzealous inclusionists who can't bear to see a single word of their lovingly detailed summaries altered. AfD has proven to be the only way to get this work done w/ proper community involvement. Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 23:37, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- If an edit you make is reverted (and this includes you making a redirect or requesting a speedy deletion or prod), you may find it better to go to the talk page and start a discussion to try to get consensus for what you are doing. See WP:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. Or, of course, you could raise the matter in advance on the talk page if you anticipate opposition. Thincat (talk) 15:04, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per Jclemens. Don't see a reason for deletion. Agletarang (talk) 16:35, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Jclemens also mentioned the main Vampire Academy article as a redirect target. Since that article already has a character list, any thoughts on redirecting this article over there? Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 17:26, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect to the main article. Vampire Academy#Main characters and Bloodlines (book series)#Characters seem to provide sufficient overview of the main characters relative to the weight required to understand the context of the articles. There are no sources showing the grouping establishes notability to meet GNG or LISTN. This is not a valid offshoot article because it has not been shown that the main articles are overburdened by necessary contextual plot information. Most of what is here is irrelevant for the purposes of a general encyclopedia, so it can be tossed without any issue. ATD concerns seem moot when there is no relevant sourced content to salvage. TTN (talk) 12:48, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 14:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)