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Khachkar destruction

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This article is a POV fork for Nakhichevan. Grandmaster 12:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - How is it a POV fork? this article describes the destruction of Khachkars, those images are clear proof, this is located there but it is different, silliness. Artaxiad 12:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. This issue is addressed in Nakhichevan and Julfa articles, this is a POV fork. Grandmaster 12:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete or significantly ammend. For example, this POV page does not include the important article from a leading Armenian HETQ magazine - about Armenians' destroying their own khachkars and cultural heritage -- and since the Hetq story compares this to khachkar (cross-stones or head-stones, common to Armenians and Caucasian Albanians of the region) destruction in Naxcivan, it was relevant.

What is interesting, there are more admissions of khachkars being destroyed by Armenians themselves, especially around their capital of Yerevan -- for example, at this specialized khachkar website -

"Endangered Khachkars in Armenia and Artsakh It is particularly tragic that khachkars are also endangered in Armenia and Artsakh. They are disappearing, being damaged or moved. Most endangered are the old khachkar fields located near today’s graveyards, where khachkars are being eradicated for the creation of new burial space. The “crown of thorns” belongs to the khachkar field in Arinch near Yerevan. The situation is threatening in Noratus as well, where new burials are encroaching upon the khachkar field from at least three sides. The old graveyard of Areni is in almost the same situation. The movement of khachkars voluntarily by different individuals is a widespread practice. In some cases this is done to allegedly create a new holy place, for example, the case of Karmir Dalakner of Gegharquniq region where the khachkar was brought from Karvachar. Another case of moved khachkars is due to the decoration of new offices and especially entertainment establishments, as for example in the Vank village in Karabakh. The third and the most condemning practice is when khachkars are merely disappearing to decorate individual yards and houses. Khachkars are being damaged also by believers, worshipers and casual visitors, who light candles on them or write their names on them or engage in rituals that are damaging the carvings." See gallery of photos here -

Moreover, the destruction of cultural heritage (or Cultural Genocide, as some Armenians dubbed it) in Armenia, like elsewhere, has reached dangerous proportions and led to many protests both in press and in streets -- , , , and

Hence, if the Armenian and pro-Armenian view on destruction of khachkars by allegedly Azerbaijanis and allegedly in Naxcivan is to be included, then a contrarian view should be included too -- not just Azerbaijan's denial of wrongdoing by the government, but Armenians' own admission of breaking, destroying and otherwise mishandling their own khachkars on their own territory. --AdilBaguirov 13:02, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, if the article is about destruction of khackars in general, it should include info on such destruction in Armenia, if it is to be limited to Nakhichevan, it is POV fork. Grandmaster 13:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Fully sourced, verifiable and extremely notable. In the top 5 of the biggest Armenian related stories of last year.-- Ευπάτωρ 13:09, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

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