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Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2022

Not going anywhere good. Bon courage (talk) 13:33, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

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This article is an attack piece and unfit for an encyclopedia like Misplaced Pages. Some editors seem to have cherry picked the poor studies to attack Homeopathy. This and this show it is effective if its principles (of similarity and minimum dose) are followed.- 2401:4900:22E3:79B:2846:6E92:FD8D:98F1 (talk) 01:31, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Many celebrities, including King Charles III take Homeopathy but this article doesn't mention that. Why?-2401:4900:22E3:79B:2846:6E92:FD8D:98F1 (talk) 01:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:44, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Please remove this: "All relevant scientific knowledge about physics, chemistry, biochemistry and biology contradicts homeopathy. Homeopathic remedies are typically biochemically inert, and have no effect on any known disease. Its theory of disease, centered around principles Hahnemann termed miasms, is inconsistent with subsequent identification of viruses and bacteria as causes of disease. Clinical trials have been conducted and generally demonstrated no objective effect from homeopathic preparations.: 206 The fundamental implausibility of homeopathy as well as a lack of demonstrable effectiveness has led to it being characterized within the scientific and medical communities as quackery and fraud." from the lead.-2401:4900:22E3:79B:E170:F9E3:C3D8:A847 (talk) 04:35, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Why? - Roxy the dog 05:39, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Many celebrities What is encyclopedic about that? --Hob Gadling (talk) 06:45, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

The section you seek to remove has about 15 references. You haven't given any valid reason for trying to remove any of it.--Dmol (talk) 09:26, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Dmol, I am asking to remove those sentences because it is attacking the system which is not how an encyclopaedia should be (an encyclopaedia should just state what something is, without attacking it).-2401:4900:33BC:5557:8C20:A0D6:D6E2:1FE4 (talk) 13:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

It's not attacking it, it's describing it. --McSly (talk) 13:27, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Also, all of this is covered by the FAQ at the top of this page. --McSly (talk) 13:28, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

This is about celebrities who used it. Shouldn't they be mentioned?-2401:4900:33BC:5557:8C20:A0D6:D6E2:1FE4 (talk) 13:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Please add first name

In the lead section, can someone add "Samuel" in front of "Hahnemann" in this sentence:

"Its theory of disease, centered around principles ____ Hahnemann termed"

Its the first time he is mentioned in the article and should be specifically identified.

Thank you! 67.220.13.96 (talk) 23:35, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Reordered it so Hahnemann is mentioned earlier with his full name and link. Thanks for flagging. Aircorn (talk) 05:27, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Basic Research duckweed/ arsenic

In Switzerland at the University of Bern at the Institute of Complementary and Integrative Medicine Classical Homeopathy / Potentiazed Substancesare researched.University of Bern,Institute of Complementary and Integrative Medicine, Inselspital Bern, Freiburgstrasse 46, CH-3010 Bern

in german : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_van-G2HXs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7M-qcP_pDY --2003:D2:2F4C:C5C6:64B6:FA0C:238:B3BF (talk) 02:07, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

A photo of duckweed isn't 'research'. And YouTube videos aren't even remotely acceptable as sources in regards to any claims regarding medical efficacy. See Misplaced Pages:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) for what would be required. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:43, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

This study evaluated the effects with arsenic-stressed duckweed (Lemna gibba L.). The test substances were applied and compared with controls (unsuccussed and succussed water) regarding their influence on the plant's growth rate. Duckweed was stressed with arsenic. Afterwards, plants grew in either potentized substances or water controls All experiments were randomized and blinded.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21057725/

--2003:D2:2F2F:51E0:78C7:CDC2:F523:E0AE (talk) 19:40, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Junk primary research from dodgy publisher. Not usable. Bon courage (talk) 19:44, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Yep. The Scientific World Journal is not a reliable source for what day it is, let alone science. Black Kite (talk) 20:45, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

OP, do not edit posts after they have been replied to. It makes following the flow of discussions impossible. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:51, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Sorry,i found the duckweed sources later. In Germany the work on duckweed is widely accepted. Critics wish the work on many labors. 2003:D2:2F32:A950:8CDF:7395:931A:202A (talk) 18:38, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

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