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I haven't changed the 'shell integration' values for vi or vim, but doesn't the '!' command (run shell command) count as shell integration for vi/vim? I left the value as 'N/A', since I may be misunderstanding shell integration.
Could someone please clarify this?
In addition, wouldn't vim's 'visual mode' count as column mode editing, or am I missing something?
- Originally I added "shell integration" for text editors can add items on Windows Explorer's context menu. But now it seems to be not only GUI shell, but also command-line shell... I don't know about vim, but column edit mode refers to the ability to selection vertically . --Minghong 08:50, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- In that case, the column title should be changed. Many people who use operating systems other than MS Windows will understand "shell integration" to mean the ability to start a shell from within the editor or to insert the output of system commands in the buffer. Burschik 15:22, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Tabs
This should be probably multiple file handling, or multiple windows, since tabs aren't found in command line/curses based editors, to be fair. Dysprosia 22:32, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I agree
- Not agree, as the way to handling multiple document can be very different: 1) open multiple windows; 2) MDI; or 3) tabbed interface. There may be more, but tabbed interface is the most popular. (I don't mean I hate command-line editor thought) --Minghong 09:30, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I can think of
- multiple windows, similarly to many web browsers
- MDI
- split window
- tabbed interface or similar
- Moreover, some editors may support more than one way of displaying/opening multiple documents, or none at all. Some may have a system of switching between documents such that only one is on the screen at a time, but without the convenience of a tabbed interface (e.g. Emacs, which provides this independently of split window and GUI-mode multiple windows). There are also platform differences - an app that uses MDI on Windows may use separate windows in its Mac version, with this being how apps tend to work on Mac OS. And TextPad uses MDI, but has a document selector window that provides the convenience of a tabbed interface. -- Smjg 14:34, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I can think of
- Do we really need a column for SDI? Really it just means it has neither MDI nor TDI. Moreover, the fact that the SDI column follows the same colour scheme as the rest of the columns makes it look as though SDI is a positive feature, which doesn't strike me as right. Personally, I'd be inclined to get rid of the SDI column and move the others back to the basic features table.... -- Smjg 18:08, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Just because you don't think that SDI is the best doesn't mean that other people don't. For example, I think that SDI is vastly superiour to MDI. Since it is a subjective thing, it would not be fair to change it. --Ctachme 21:12, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Better exaplanation of fields
The meaning of most columnts is rather unclear. Also some "features" don't apply to certain editors as they are implemented by other parts of the system but integrate seamlessly into the editor(spell checking in Unix editors is one example, a better example is ftpfs and webfs in Plan 9) Lost Goblin
16 references for just Emacs?!
We should better combine it into one reference of the Emacs manual... --Minghong 20:40, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Windowing system integration
What is Windowing system integration? --Hhielscher 09:40, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Isn't that obvious? Integration with your windowing system, e.g. right-click at a file > Edit with Notepad. Originally that column was "shell integration". But under different platform, the term "shell" refers to different thing. --Minghong 19:44, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Anyway, I've found a better name. Take a look. --Minghong 19:51, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
EDXOR is Win32
Why was the EDXOR column deleted? EDXOR is a Win32 application, with a Win16 version available as well. And, it's not THAT uncommon. --KelisFan2K5 21:49, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I never heard of it, can you provide references? papers? Lost Goblin
- http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/edxor.htm <- This is the official EDXOR site. --KelisFan2K5 01:10, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Yea, there are thousands of text editors out there that have a website; why is this one so relevant? Lost Goblin