User talk:SunnyKambojLive - Misplaced Pages

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by SunnyKambojLive (talk | contribs) at 01:58, 6 November 2022. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Revision as of 01:58, 6 November 2022 by SunnyKambojLive (talk | contribs)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)

Welcome!

Hello, SunnyKambojLive, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Preet sanghreri, may not conform to some of Misplaced Pages's guidelines, and may not be retained.

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the Teahouse, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{help me}} on this page, followed by your question, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Misplaced Pages:Questions or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Neil S. Walker (talk) 14:47, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Preet sanghreri

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Preet sanghreri requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Neil S. Walker (talk) 14:47, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

August 2019

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Shadaa, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:43, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

September 2019

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did on Judge Singh LLB. This violates Misplaced Pages's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. - Arjayay (talk) 10:28, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Conversion templates

Please note, we do not use conversion templates in the infoboxes of Indian films, per WP:ICTF consensus - thank you - Arjayay (talk) 10:30, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 election voter message

Hello! Voting in the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 on Monday, 2 December 2019. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Misplaced Pages arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2019 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:23, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for March 13

Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. An automated process has detected that when you recently edited List of highest-grossing Punjabi films, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Anurag Singh (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are usually incorrect, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of unrelated topics with similar titles. (Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.)

It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 11:49, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for April 25

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Amberdeep Singh, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Anurag Singh (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver).

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 12:07, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

ArbCom 2020 Elections voter message

Hello! Voting in the 2020 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 7 December 2020. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

If you wish to participate in the 2020 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:52, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for August 23

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited List of highest-grossing Punjabi films, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Hawayein.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 05:59, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

ArbCom 2021 Elections voter message

Hello! Voting in the 2021 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 6 December 2021. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

If you wish to participate in the 2021 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:55, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for May 29

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited List of highest-grossing Punjabi films, you added links pointing to the disambiguation pages Jagdeep Singh and Anurag Singh.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:01, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for November 2

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited List of highest-grossing Punjabi films, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Ardaas Karaan.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:04, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

November 2022

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. It appears that you tried to give List of highest-grossing Punjabi films a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into List of highest-grossing Indian Punjabi (Panjabi) films. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Misplaced Pages has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases for registered users, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Misplaced Pages:Requests for history merge. Thank you. Storchy (talk) 16:16, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

List of highest-grossing Punjabi films

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. نعم البدل (talk) 23:40, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

May have been involved? lol. U only involved me there. And, 2 admins have already cleared your confusion there. Now, just try to understand and stop wasting precious time of both of us. SunnyKambojLive (talk) 18:05, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Look, SunnyKambojLive, you need to stop operating as if you have a good understanding of policies and guidelines and best practices, when it's clear that you don't. Everyone has an equal stake in editing anything. A creator of a page doesn't get special allowances, nor does an editor by virtue of their ethno-national orientation relative to a given page. When you falsely accuse an editor of vandalism in the course of a content dispute, as you did here — that counts as a personal attack, which is sanctionable. Please review WP:NOTVANDALISM. And when you double down on that, as you did here, stating (in part): Kindly check the meaning of vandalism on wikipedia — that just comes across as not serious.

So please take a step back and try not being so reflexively defensive. Try to observe the ethos of WP:ONUS, as a recommendation that the person introducing a change take the initiative toward (dispassionately) building WP:CONSENSUS for it whenever it's contested, rather than resorting to brute force WP:EDITWARRING.

Above all else, be collegial, act professionally in a manner befitting a collaborative project. And avoid even a hint of WP:OWNERSHIP. Your expertise is welcomed as a Punjabi (though this is a broader point about all countries and fields), but don't expect special breaks, stakes or sway for it for Punjabi-related pages. You won't get it. I'm being blunt with because you're teetering on the edge right now. So a major course correction is necessary. Otherwise, I'm sorry to say, but your time here is going to be challenging, if not brief. Good luck and thanks in advance for your close attention to this matter. El_C 22:31, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello User:Ei_C, thank a lot for your kind words. I know these are for my benefit only. And, from everything u have said, it seems you know the whole situation and the page that is being discussed.

The problem I was facing is that I didn't know how to add diffs. I am trying to learn it and give a proof of why I said it to be an act of Vandalism. I had no intention of falsely accusing anyone. Though I felt like a victim of false accusations by a couple of users.

I thought we have freedom of speech, on Misplaced Pages. But whenever I try to say anything, other users start cornering me. At least, that what I felt. That's why I am learning how to add diffs and give a clarification on false accusations being on me. Just because I am afraid an Admin will block me just because of the false accusations. But please suggest me if I should give clarification with Proofs or not? Or just step back and remain silent?

Also, I never intend to own any page. I know it's not possible on Misplaced Pages. Actually, I was writing the clarification on the page being discussed before I got your message. Just suggest me the best. I will be very thankful. And, I already am.

Thanks & Regards, SunnyKambojLive (talk) 23:09, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Hey, no problem. The documentation is at WP:DIFF. But I looked at those edits and it's not vandalism. Again, please review WP:NOTVANDALISM to understand why that is. If you take it slow and closely review all the links I attached for you above, then you'll be in a much better position to navigate this dispute, specifically, and this website, in general.

As for freedom of speech, that's limited to public venues subject to the laws governing the country you're in. But there's WP:NOTFREESPEECH on Misplaced Pages. It's a private website with it's own set of rules. El_C 23:33, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I understood why it was not Vandalism. I am reviewing all the links and will proceed accordingly.

Thanks a lot. :) SunnyKambojLive (talk) 23:44, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello everyone, I think the other thread is closed. So, I am writing here.

User:Swarm, User:Woodroar, User:EI_C please read this. I am giving my clarification.

A) User:نعم البدل, when I was talking about false accusations, it was not meant for you. I was talking about User:Nfitz, and I will explain why in the following.

B) About Vandalism - I thought Disruptive editing is Vandalism as I read it on "Vandalism on Misplaced Pages" article on Misplaced Pages. Though User:EI_C guided me and I got to know that it's not Vandalism.

When you (User:نعم البدل) started adding a Pakistani Punjabi film on the list which till then (and before any discussion started) only contained Indian Punjabi films, I found it disruptive and undid it. But you undid my revision 2-3 times in just few minutes.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_highest-grossing_Punjabi_films&diff=1119779526&oldid=1119651034,

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_highest-grossing_Punjabi_films&diff=1119995937&oldid=1119779526,

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_highest-grossing_Punjabi_films&diff=1119997969&oldid=1119997340,

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_highest-grossing_Punjabi_films&diff=1120003622&oldid=1119997969)

Then, I thought it to be Vandalism and left you a message, (https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:%D9%86%D8%B9%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%AF%D9%84&diff=1120065841&oldid=1120005093). Now that I have learnt that this was not Vandalism, so I apologize from you (User:نعم البدل).

Then, you found this to be threatening. (https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:%D9%86%D8%B9%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%AF%D9%84&diff=1120066011&oldid=1120065841). But it is a standard Misplaced Pages message and not something I wrote from my side. How that can be threatening? So, I asked you to search the meaning of Vandalism on Misplaced Pages. (https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:%D9%86%D8%B9%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%AF%D9%84&diff=1120190123&oldid=1120066011) Regarding which, I had wrong information or let's say, incomplete information. But that was not entirely my fault. As a Misplaced Pages article said so.

C) Now, User:Nfitz took advantage of this situation and falsely accused me of being unnecessarily hostile and condescending (ref. above in this same discussion. I just asked User:نعم البدل to check the meaning for Misplaced Pages Vandalism. How this can be hostile and condescending? We also know, it's not. For this, User:Nfitz should apologize from me.

Now, let me give everyone the proof, why User:Nfitz did this. He tried to make few changes on the page that is being discussed.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_highest-grossing_Punjabi_films&diff=1120201100&oldid=1120196774)

According to him, we can't use the word Overseas because - "one doesn't have to cross seas to reach many of these countries".

I found this to be funny. So, I reverted and replied

(https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_highest-grossing_Punjabi_films&diff=1120204304&oldid=1120201100)

He just could not digest it and came to this discussion and made false accusations on me, that could have led to me blocking from editing, according to User:Swarm.

Now tell me everyone, who is the victim here?

D) User:Nfitz is still not stopping as you can read his further comments and the changes he is making on the page being discussed. Let me clear further, I did not accused him of Vandalism. I just referred him by mistake though I intended to write User:نعم البدل

For which, I already apologized to User:نعم البدل

I am sorry to write User:Nfitz by mistake. Now, we all have to see if User:Nfitz is mature enough of apologizing from me or not? For false accusations. Doesn't he qualify to be blocked after all this and wasting everyone's precious time especially mine? (just for fun or out of frustration)

E) Coming back to User:نعم البدل

There is not an issue of WP:Ownership at all. Just because I am the major contributor of the said page, it does not mean I intend to own it. It's not possible on Misplaced Pages. From my clarification, you can easily judge my intentions.

And, talking about the examples I gave regarding Bengali and English language are still relevant for me. We can have different opinions on it. Talking about separating the Indian Punjabi and Pakistani Punjabi films, discussion is still ON. And, I didn't think to add any column because you did not suggested earlier. Now that you have suggested, I will think about it.

F) Talking about the page being discussed, I already mentioned my times that List of highest-grossing Punjabi films is a sub-article of List of highest-grossing Indian films and adding Pakistani Punjabi movies to it will be illogical.

G) In last, I want to talk about feeling getting cornered or a case of partiality. When User:SilverserenC used such disrespectful language and strong words and wrote following.

"Trying to limit the list to only Indian Punjabi films seems both dumb and way over-specialization that isn't needed for such a list. And, since the sources do explicitly call the Pakistani films "Punjabi", then that means they fall under what this list article is about. Also, this conflict makes me wonder if this would fall under the India-Pakistan discretionary sanctions. Since this seems to be a really stupid anti-Pakistan action".

Nobody said anything to him or asked him to tone down. But when I replied to him with the following:-

"Such comment without having your facts checks, is dumb actually. Kindly read my upper comment to understand why this list can't include films from Pakistan. And, this is not a new debate. It has always been the case. Whenever page protection is removed, such users arise. Your use of word "anti-Pakistan" is enough to understand your mind set, without clearly seeing the logic".

After this, User:Swarm asked me to tone it down and even threaten me to block. I want to know the reason of this partiality.

Thanks & Regards, SunnyKambojLive (talk) 01:23, 6 November 2022 (UTC)