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British Rail Class 90 edits

Stop changing back the class 90 thread, all information that i and many others put on is accurate. (Personal attack removed) DuanLW87035 (talk) 00:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Information in Misplaced Pages must be verifiable and/or referenced - Misplaced Pages is not for original research - see WP:V Danners430 (talk) 09:35, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Scot-rail.co.uk

Nice spot of spotter site scot-rail.co.uk I have removed a few more references leaving {{cn}} in its place. Any others we should be having a crack at? 10mmsocket (talk) 18:38, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Not that I’m aware of at the moment - Scot-rail is just 100% user contributed, almost like a wiki Danners430 (talk) 20:10, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

British Rail Class 33 revert

Hi there. As a relatively inexperienced user, I'm not sure I understand why you've reverted my Class 33 edit, or what I should do to avoid it. D6515 is no longer under overhaul at Eastleigh, it's been back in use at Swanage for some time - I've seen it in use there, and it's also visited other heritage railways in the last couple of months. Not really sure what I could cite to say that it's operational (very few of the other entries in that column have citations). Must confess that having such a straightforward edit removed does rather dissuade me from further editing! Mwsmith20 (talk) 14:38, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Mwsmith20, edits on Misplaced Pages should be cited using reliable sources - these could be magazine articles, news websites or books. For example, some good sources are RAIL Magazine and other such publications - they often have articles which detail stock moves, both on the mainline network and between heritage railways. Unfortunately I haven't found any sources which state it's back in service at Swanage - if there is such a source, then the edit is of course perfectly valid. Danners430 (talk) 10:36, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Class 25 D7659 edit on 'British Rail Class 25'

Evening Danners, contrary to your opinion, D7659 is no longer undergoing repairs at Peak Rail and has been in service since 30th April 2022. I give you 3 sources as proof: 1) Peak Rail website gives the locomotive as one which is 'Arriving at Peak Rail in 2022', in other words one of the locomotives which is operating trains: https://www.peakrail.co.uk/ 2) The main Peak Rail social media channel on Facebook regularly advertises when the locomotive is running, including at the recent Mixed Traction Gala held earlier in August: https://m.facebook.com/100083362060025/ 3) The locomotive also made an extended visit to the North Norfolk Railway from early June until late July in operational condition: https://www.nnrailway.co.uk/class-25s-norfolk-visit-extended/ Hopefully this evidence is to your satisfaction, but if you still refuse to accept this, then I suggest you visit Peak Rail in person to see for yourself that it is now operational. Regards, GW1450 — Preceding unsigned comment added by GW1450 (talk • contribs) 19:31, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi GW1450, if you wish to re-add the information to the class 25 page, then the sources can be added as citations to the article. I am not a gatekeeper to the article - the sources belong in there, not on my talk page.

Your edit was undone as the information was unsourced at the time - like I said, you’re welcome to add the information with sources. Danners430 (talk) 19:40, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

British Rail Class 170 edits

Good morning Danners430. Can I just reiterate that I am a new user to this site and that I don’t edit things often. I think you need to be more patient please as whilst you might be using a computer, I am stuck with a phone so it takes much longer for me to edit things, so when you spend 5 seconds undoing things I feel like I have wasted my time even though my edit is completely valid. Instead of undoing it, why not try and find the source yourself? It can’t be that difficult as you seem like you know what you are doing.

170270-170273 are all with EMR now. I have had to edit this page twice now, and I am not sure why you are changing this back for no reason even though both 170270 and 170272 have been photographed as being in service with EMR, and 170271 is at Barrow Hill and is being prepared. All have left TfW.

By all means if you want the information to be wrong, fine. But I accept no responsibility for the inaccuracies you are applying.

Thank you for your time. ScotRail02 (talk) 11:13, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi ScotRail02,

Information on Misplaced Pages must be verifiable - it’s built on verifiability, not truth. Photographs aren’t reliable sources under WP:UGC, and Twitter can really only be considered reliable if coming from a verified source (although I definitely agree a discussion should be had following recent events).

It’s not up to other editors to find sources for you - if you wish to add information to an article, it’s up to you to source it. Danners430 (talk) 11:58, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

A better description than what I could ever write can be found at the bottom of this talk page. Danners430 (talk) 12:16, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Class 397 ORR auth

Is trimming a source's title like this acceptable? I genuinely don't know the answer, but it strikes me as somewhat irregular. Cheers. XAM2175  18:02, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

I’ve honestly never considered it either - personally I regularly trim source titles when sourcing my own content, when the “real” title is unwieldy or un-descriptive in some way. A perfect example is when citing Tweets from verified accounts.

I’d be interested to discover the official policy - in my eyes, and I’ll happily be corrected, a source title should simply be a one-line summary of the contents of the source Danners430 (talk) 18:10, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Yeah I can understand a level of subjectivity when it comes to things like Tweets that don't have a "title", per se – personally I use either the opening sentence (a bit like a modern-day incipit) or a direct quote of some other part of the Tweet that best encapsulates the point – but I would hesitate to endorse that view across the board. My understanding is that the detail of the citation has the primary purpose of allowing another person to find at some point in the future the work being cited. Obviously this is somewhat less of a concern now given that we have hyperlinks and web archives, but from that original perspective it follows that the title should be quoted near-enough to exactly (beyond very minor adjustments such as those along the lines listed at MOS:CONFORM, or perhaps some level of truncation). Hence using a newspaper article's headline verbatim, or indeed – a recent discovery of my own – using a magazine's cover date even when this results in a citation having a date some days or weeks in the future. XAM2175  19:29, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

That makes sense - in the example being discussed, the “trimmed” title was still a direct quote of the “header” paragraph, albeit trimmed and sentence cased. I’m obviously happy to leave as is, still an interesting thought however Danners430 (talk) 19:36, 5 December 2022 (UTC)